See...You people out in Ca. ...

[SEATJERKER]

...are not the only one's with earth quakes...
...We had one this morning that registered a 5.1 on the "big meter"...
... Didn't sleep well last night after starting to watch "cliffhanger" which started at 11:00 pm our time, and by 12:15, said to self...self... "let's try to knock down a few hours of rest... to no avail, back up wide awake until 2:00/2:30ish, go down stairs, and hit the couch as not to wake the wife, and 3:06 rolls along, and it was the last number on the clock I remember...
...6:45 AM............. MY DAMN DOG STARTS BARKING LIKE THERE IS A DAMN EARTH QUAKE GOING ON, OR SOMETHING...
I heave several pillows, along with the traditional "shut the hell up"(sorry Keith), and he will not stop for nuthin...
...Now my wife is up, and looking around to smack me if possible for shaking the bed, and waking her up, and I'm not in the room.........
...Next time get the scheduling down, and keep em in Ca. .......

[82Rigger]

...much about earthquakes (just hurricanes here in Florida),
but I've heard that animals can tell when an earthquake is about to happen.
Anybody know more about this? Sounds interesting!

Airborne! Steve / 82Rigger

"The sky, like the sea, is terribly unforgiving of even the slightest mistake."

[Andy]

They dudes, like we totally felt the earth quake here too. My old lady jumped out of bed and said that this was totally bitchin'. My mother was at a cafe having breakfast and said the coffee spilled out of her cup (just a little). But Jerker, your right, that was a left coast thing and next fall I'm voting again whoever had the idea to importing one of those things back east.

Rigger, I've heard about animal knowing before humans. Could be because they have such a great sense of hearing. Course I'm just guessing.

Stay healthy,
Andy

[Keith_Hixson]

The Pacific Northwest gets its winter wind storms which often reach Hurricane winds, 75 mph or higher. We occassionally get a tornado but only every ten or fifteen years. Been through quite a few 5.1 quakes. That's a little one. We had a gully washer here a couple of years ago, now that is scary. Six inches of rain in a half hour. Everything was flooded and mud slides covered roads and railroads. Small creeks and rivers flooded almost instantly. I didn't like that at all. I wouldn't want to live in the mid-west with those tornados I think that would be more scary than an earthquake.

Keith

[frisco-kid]

Yeah, I suppose a 5.1 is a sizeable quake.....to a novice.:p About average by CA standards. Been through many of these and most of them are no big deal. My wife says "Just a little reminder of where we live". However, my family has a cabin up in the Sierras in the Lake Tahoe area. We plan on holding onto it, as it may become valuable seaside property someday:D .

I'll take my chances in earthquake country any day, as opposed to living in Tornado Alley or the Mississippi flood plain. Especially Tornado Alley. Wouldn't live anywhere from MN to TX.

Lived in Spokane, WA when Mt. St. Helens blew her top. That was different. We were 300 miles away, but the dust and ash cloud that it sent our way was still large enough and dark enough to make the street lights come on at 3:00PM. It looked like a blizzard as the ash fell from the sky. Alot of sinners thought this was the end for sure.

Steve, I have two parrots and they get pretty agitated before a quake. My 3 dogs get restless, also. I don't know if they all sense it, or if one of them stirs up the other two.

[82Rigger]

...I got interested in the '06 San Fransisco quake and read a few books on the subject.

One author depicted animals, and especially horses, as becoming agitated a number of hours before the shock waves actually arrived.
Another book painted a picture of the way the shock waves traveled down (up?) the fault line....the path, etc. and the speed as the waves moved from land to water (SF Bay?) and back to land.

Airborne! Steve / 82Rigger

[sn-e3]

Earthquakes can be very scary espeacially if they are not common to your area. I've lived with the and been in too many mostly in washington and california but got the shit scared out of me in japan i don't think they have building codes there or a least didn'nt when i was there the buildings started falling from the first jolt then got worse followed by fire luckly i was drunk or i might have got hurt.

[Arrow]

Chris! You are a nut! I'm laughin' so hard I'm cryin.

[exlrrp]

I'll weigh in with my other CA natives here and say we don't think much of an earthquake unill it gets over 6.
the big one of 89 knocked all the stuff off the mantle and shelves, made half the water slosh outta th bathtub. I was in it, getting ready to watch the World Series, hopped out, THREW ON A PAIR OF PANTS! and ran out into the backyard.

james

Happy just to be alive

[exlrrp]

Originally posted by 82Rigger
[BAnother book painted a picture of the way the shock waves traveled down (up?) the fault line....the path, etc. and the speed as the waves moved from land to water (SF Bay?) and back to land.
[/B]

Steve
there was a great video of the last big quake in LA, mid 90s. Someone was looking right down a long railroad tangent when they took the video and you can see this rolling swell coming up the tracks for a couple miles, very dramatic.

James

[Packo]

ABOUT DOGS LEAPING OUT OF BUIDINGS AND HORSES GOING CRAZY BEFORE THE "SAN FRANSICO EARTHQUAKE". (06'?)

WHEN MY MOM WAS LIVING IN SAN JOSE' SHE WAS A TEENAGER OR IN EARLY 20'S. SHE WAS IN A DENTIST CHAIR WHEN THE QUAKE HIT. SOME ACID SPILLED ON HER LEG AND THEY ALL RAN UNDER THE DOOR JAM. THAT'S ABOUT ALL I KNOW ABOUT THEM.

WE LIVE ON A FAULT LINE IN COASTAL SC. CHARLESTON HAD A HUGE ONE MANY YEARS AGO. ONE IS EXPECTED, SOME TIME. I DO HAVE EARTHQUAKE INSURANCE ON THE HOUSE. ONLY COSTS ABOUT 40 BUCKS A YEAR HERE.

PACKO

[Hoyin]

Ah..I grew up in the Bay Area..in between two fault lines. I swear we had a little one daily. 5.1 is nothing either. Just a fun little shake em up.
The big ones and even the little ones (unless you live between two faults with one the fence line of your house following) are pretty rare. Well, that you can feel. Actually all over the world there are tiny ones all the time. ALL the time. My point is the ones you can feel..rare..so it never ceases to amaze me that my wimpy Minnesota relatives wont come out here to visit cause California has earthquakes..meanwhile they put up with their weekly tornados. Now which of us is insane?
Earthquake? Little one? Bed shakes..a book might fall off the case. Tornado? I quarentee a trailer park somewhere will be leveled.

[82Rigger]

...figger out how to keep the overpasses from pancaking during a quake?

Man! Gave me chills during the '89 quake looking at the videos of those highways stacked on toppa each other...knowing what was in between!

Airborne! Steve / 82Rigger

[Hoyin]

at the time of the Loma Prieta quake I worked for a college newspaper and I went down there. Didnt think I'd get in..but they let me climb all over the now flattened Cyprus super structure. My favorite picture was taken from a cherry picker (some guy held my legs while I laid over the edge) of a truck ..perfect with a flattened truck behind it and a very smashed car in front...with the writing in orange spray paint..in cursive Lucky A-13.
After taking those pictures ..I think that the best way from keeping a freeway from pancaking is not reenforce the rebar and not have the pieces not even joining inside the cement!!

[exlrrp]

the Nimitz freeway in Oakland was an ugly old thing, Nimitz hated how it looked but they named it after him anyway, berkeley's Prmier citizen ever, in my book. he used to come to pass out Eagle Scout Awards in our Area, once in uniform, very impressive--I wish I knew then what i know about him now, I'd have spent the whole evening on his lap[ asking him questions, a real unsung archtect of naval victory in the Pacific.
the Nimitz freeway where it came off 580 was 3 stories high, solid comcrete, built in the late 40s. I worked graveyard at an all night Chevron Station, first out of the Army while in College, right where Peralta Street and West Grand went right under it.
This is definte Indian Country and the lrrpster carried armaments and was not shy about letting the butt stick out. I had some intersting experiences with some of the local denizens, usta keep a pot of coffee for the pollce if they got lost and came down there.
it was right by the Nimitz and boy you'd look at that thing and think it was as solid as the Pyramids--and that thing came crashing down like pack of cards--I mean it--it was AWESOME, like a giant had smashed it--do tornados do that mmuch damage to freeways? I saw it the next day and WOW--pictures didn't do it justice. SF's Embarcadero Fwy was an exact copy and they took it down even tho it wasn't damaged. theyre also replacing the east end of the Bay Bridge that fell down-boy is that a politiclaly correct football or what.
CA is wellknown for its swoopydoopy freeway over passes, some of em 5, 6 layers high but they think they have the better handle on em every time. The freeway they replaced the Nimitz with is high, maybe 100' or more, , three lanes sitting on single columns--they say the fexibility will hold but I'd hate to be on the SOB the next 7.6er to find out

James

happy just to be alive

[Hoyin]

I know that area well. Not a nice place. When I was younger and my dad had to go out to the docks area of West Oakland (going under the freeway there) he wouldnt even let me out of the car!
But like I said..I feel that the freeway would have been in better shape to withstand the quake if it had been built better.
Not that I want to be up on *anything* in a 7.0 or larger!!
Still..earthquakes happen how often? Tornados happen how often?
I still got better odds out here. If you dont count the drivers! ;)

[Seascamp]

Chris,
I got a roller in Japan when I was working there for a few months. I was on about the 26th floor of the Rieki building in Tokyo when all of a sudden, I, in my chair, started roll across the office floor and pick up speed. Enough, I bailed from the chair and just kind of did the Tokyo two step, or my version of it. I had this vision of being a spit wad on the end of an ice cream stick and flick, out the window and off I would go touring the Ginza from high above. Eeeeeeee Tiiiiiiiiii and not even a bottle of good bottle of Japanese beer in my hand for the flight, oh man. Now then what kind of self-respecting Sailor is that, I ask. But having missed the flight, I took the Japanese cure for an earthquake and mobbed the office beer trolley with the locals. That?s what I liked about working in a Japanese office. They don?t miss an opportunity to roll out the beer trolley, ever. LOL.

Fair seas, Bill
:D :D :D :D