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dutchmil
04-27-2002, 04:09 AM
Will there be an UN peacekeeping force in Israel soon?
My opinion is no, I think the Israeli will not allow it.

sfc_darrel
04-27-2002, 09:27 AM
Will there be a force?
Yes, that's what the UN does.

Is it a good idea?
No

Will the US be involved?
The world/UN loves to put US in no-win situations.

dutchmil
04-27-2002, 10:05 AM
What's with the winning, I guess that's not the point, peace is the point don't you agree, not win:rolleyes:

sfc_darrel
04-27-2002, 01:05 PM
"peace is the point don't you agree"
No.

The issues have to be resolved by the people there or there will be no peace. Peace cannot be imposed by the UN or any outside group.
What we have in Ireland, Korea, a least one Mediterranean island and other places throughout the world is not peace. There is no resolution to the conflicts.

Maybe "no-win" was the wrong term. How about lose/lose? Damned if you do, damned if you don't?

Which countries want to send their troups into a conflict where their peacekeepers are targets?
People from the UN/Europe have already been killed there for who they were, not out of any confusion that they were the enemy.

Our children will go if our government sends them.

Personal Note: Darrel was stationed in the Netherlands from June 1980-June 1983. He liked it.

Joy

dutchmil
04-27-2002, 01:11 PM
Which countries want to send their troups into a conflict where their peacekeepers are targets?
People from the UN/Europe have already been killed there for who they were, not out of any confusion that they were the enemy.

Wich countries? I Think a "lot" will send troops, respite the fact that their soldiers may become targets.

So you were stationed in the Netherlands, where was that? Soesterberg?

sfc_darrel
04-27-2002, 05:22 PM
Two European observers have been shot and killed by gunfire in the West Bank.

One of the dead was Turkish and the other believed to be Swiss.

Another observer was slightly injured in the incident on a road used mainly by Jewish settlers near Halhoul, just north of Hebron.

Israeli radio said the unarmed observers, from the Temporary International Presence in Hebron (TIPH), died when their car came under fire on a road north of the flashpoint town from Palestinian gunmen who mistook them for settlers.

But a senior member of the observer force told the BBC they were travelling in a clearly marked vehicle and that it appeared they had been caught in crossfire.

The TIPH was set up under a 1997 agreement dividing Hebron into Palestinian and Israeli-controlled zones, in the wake of an attack by an Israeli settler on a holy site in 1994 which killed 29 Palestinians.

The body consists of several dozen observers from Norway, Italy, Denmark, Turkey, Sweden and Switzerland.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1895000/1895463.stm
The US voted against UN peacekeepers from going there in March 2001.

Sorry, Darrel's at work.
Joy

Keith_Hixson
04-27-2002, 06:17 PM
The Best comparisons in the modern world is:

Korea, Northern Ireland, The Balkan States.


I think that there is much more of a chance of completely stablizing the Korean situation, because it is one divided by politics ie. Germany during the Cold War. The problems in the middle east and in Israel goes back thousands of years. The Balkan states problems will exist for another 1,000 years or more and the same in Ireland unless England totally pulls out of Northern Ireland and I don't see that happening. If communism in North Korea came to end as it did in the USSR and Eastern Europe it would be easy to reunite Korea.

Anyway such is my opinion.

Keith

dutchmil
04-27-2002, 07:17 PM
OK.........and whats the solution:confused:

sfc_darrel
04-27-2002, 09:14 PM
Take the hardliners from both sides out into the desert armed with knives. Kill the survivors.

I was stationed at Schinnen right outside of Massricht.
Darrel

Keith_Hixson
04-27-2002, 09:47 PM
I think you got something going there. Kill the survivors!

:D :p :D :p

Keith

blues clues
04-28-2002, 05:12 AM
the med-east and arfat is when he starts talking about peice and disarnment or sitting down to talk the only thing he and his bunch really wants is time to reload,so by putting in the UN or US troops it just gives them more targets to pop at.are thats the way i see things.
razz
keep your power dry and your head down.

Deadmanwalking
05-25-2002, 07:28 PM
I believe that if they don't let in some sort of refferee there is gonna be one hell of a war. The pot only boils for so long until the lid is blown off. They keep all this raging going back and forth I think we can kiss our all volunteer service good-bye and they will once again say hello to the draft. I guess the banker hasn't made enough loans yet. When he does he will stop all this conflict. You can't pay interest when your dead...............They drive me crazy.Deadmanwalking

Stick
05-27-2002, 11:04 AM
There is really a quite simple solution.
Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and all other Middle Eastern countries must recognize that there is a sovereign nation, Israel, and Israel has a right to exist. The nation Israel inherited certain areas of its nation when other nations attacked it in 1967. Those areas were used by the attacking nations because of their strategic locations. Those areas were also granted to Israel at its creation thousands of years ago and violently taken from it by means of occupation of other countries. Israel MUST be allowed to exist as an autonomous, safe, and FREE nation. Occupying people should be either be allowed to leave freely or become Israeli citizens with sworn allegiance to their country. Lands won by Israel during the ?six day? war can only be returned to the nations that Israel won them from if those nations declare that Israel has a RIGHT to exist and join with Israel by summit and treaty into a NATO like alliance for the mutual protection of all members and citizens.

Arrow
05-27-2002, 11:08 AM
And there it is. KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid)

Keith_Hixson
05-27-2002, 12:16 PM
Little John,

Your solution is right on, but to execute it with all those radical Moslems is impossible. I see no real solution, and that is the reality of the situation. I am usually a real optimist but this situation has no end in site.

Keith:mad:

Vetdelship
12-06-2002, 10:58 AM
I don't think there will ever be peace when you have people that thrive off of power and control other peoples life.