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[coachman]

I have been surfing around looking at the other military forums and I am amazed at the sort of conduct that I am seeing. I will not name names but why do you have to be the sort of person that has to call people names and get involved in the infighting that goes on at one site I looked at. I did join that site a couple of months ago and after looking and reading some post I cancelled my account there. I know that we will not always agree on everything but I can't take the sort of antics I have been seeing. Just don't understand it. :d:

[lilripple4vets]

I know exactly what you mean. But, it's not that they "have" to be that sort of person. It's simply that they "choose" to be. God gave us a will of our own. And unless a person is under duress.....like say with a pistol held to his head or knife to his throat......there really is no good reason to treat each other that way. Perhaps it has something to do with anger, hatred, jealousy, revenge, greed and a few other emotions I am sure you can offer up.

Nancy

[MORTARDUDE]

some of us on here have been calling each other names, putting the little red devil icons in their posts, and generally going wild ( LOL ) for 4 or 5 years with the same folks..so just ignore some of it..don't let it give you heartburn, or leave or anything...

Larry

[lilripple4vets]

Larry....

I do believe coachman was referring to forums other than this one.....where the posts are filled with heated arguments leading to vicious name calling. I'm sure he will correct me if I'm wrong, however.

So far, in the short time I've been here, I would say the name calling on this particular forum seems to be mostly done in jest....aka brotherly ribbing.......using those devil icons like you mentioned. I haven't run across any which would make me want to leave......or give me heartburn.....lol

With huggzz, I am
Nancy

[Boats]

I'm sure many of those folks are not actually military issue. Many have crosses to bare and are still deweeding themselves. This is a transition for them and sometimes takes more time for these folks than others to figure out what their problems are.

Growing up and having an education usually makes a big difference in the types of post that you compared to many others.

To express ones self is a freedom and we all have choices so if something bothers you - than don't go there. Don't try to analyze everyones problems. Some things are bigger than you or I and these folks have to work out their problems themselves.

I've found many such site like that and of course you have options. I like this site because most of the personnel here are intelligent and have issues of importance for most and its hard to describe the compassion you see here with many of the post.

In short we care about each other.

[b3196]

Boats
Your last sentence says it all.....Thanks!!!!
Bob K

[coachman]

Boats your right, and I was talking about fivePak's freedom of speech forum, down right nasty over there

[MORTARDUDE]

Nancy :

It does happen here too, unfortunately..usually around election time. A lot of us don't have the time, energy, or motivation to raise hell like we use to.

larry

[coachman]

Nancy you are right I was not talking about this one, I have seen plenty of nasty things on a few so called free speech forums and I think it is bad to have to do that in order to have a forum. I believe in free speech but come on if you have to be that nasty then shut it down.

[lilripple4vets]

I think the anonimity of the web often brings out the worst in some people, believing that since no one can see them, they can get away with being crude and rude........much like those who enjoy making harrassing phone calls without idententifying themselves and then hang up. They're just looking for a reaction and it gives them a feeling of power when they incite vehement responses to their posts.

Nancy

[Keith_Hixson]

You are absolutely correct, the anonimity of the web allows people to hide behind a mask. I have purposely chosen to use my real name and the place in which live is real.

Many years ago I was involved in local politics. I eventually became mayor of my community. I hated anonymous complaining mail. It went to the round file. I promised myself that I would never remain anonymous and hide behind an unsigned letter or nickname. Anonimity will bring out the worst in those who lack character.

Most of the regulars on this site have met one another personally. We have gone camping together and have had reunions, lunches, etc. We don't always agree (now that's an understatement) but I do believe there is a certain amount of respect for one another. The ones who make it to the lunches, campouts and reunions are a great bunch of folks. I love, respect, and care about each and everyone of them. But, occassionally a jerk shows up now and then. We also hassel each other but it is usually done in good taste.

I tell everyone that I'm the self-appointed, unofficial, therapist for this site. So . . . . . hang in there, you'll find most are a pretty good bunch. (Even Bob K. :D )

Keith H.

[b3196]

Thanks Keith :xx:
Bob K

[lilripple4vets]

Keith....

I admire you for not wanting to hide behind a mask. I don't know about you, but there are still some very personal things I will not share with the world.......especially via the web. Some have gotten bit by those poisonous spiders lurking within, don't you know. I suppose some of my distrust comes from being kidnapped, robbed, raped and left in the trunk of my car in my kidnapper's hopes that I would suffocate and die.

Although my serial kidnapper/rapist/murderer/robber/assailant has hence been captured (1983) and sentenced to spend nine consecutive life terms in prison plus three hundred and some odd years, a person can never be 100% sure that he will not be released by the Parole Board one day. Therefore, I must remain ever-viligent in keeping my absolute whereabouts a mystery, lest he should ever be released back into society and entertain the desire to hunt me down and do me in for assisting the police detectives in their dogged and fruitful (thank God!) search for him. So, you will have to forgive me if I don't reveal some things about myself.

Unfortunately, one of the drawbacks of my not choosing to seek the death penalty for him, versus life in prison, when the choice was put before me by the prosecuting attorney for the state, is that he would remain alive and, thus, a potential threat to me should he ever be released.....or escape. Because of my personal belief that all life is precious in God's eyes, there was no way I was going to say, "Yeah, he should be put to death for his crimes." Besides, it would simply "kill" his mother to have to bury her son. :(

Ironically, and fortunate for me and his other victims, that very belief, of not wanting to inflict any physical harm on him, is what saved my life during my ordeal and led to his eventual arrest and conviction. He murdered two of his victims because they tried to hurt him. Don't get me wrong. I gave the matter some very deep and soul-searching thought during those oxygen-sapping moments in which he had me locked in the trunk of my car. But, in the end, I chose to submit to his demands....while concentrating all my mental faculties on gathering evidence against him, should I survive the ordeal. According to the Sherriff, it was my good memory along with the ability to draw his face from memory, that allowed them to finally track him down. Had I tried to hurt him, I would not have been alive to help put him away, where he ceased to be a threat to others......my prime objective.

I would love it if I did not possess this obssesive fear that he might one day find me and seek retaliation. Therefore, I am truly envious of all of you who trust one another enough to actually meet up, like when you go camping together. I hope you know how truly fortunate you are in being able to do that. As for me, I will just keep on keeping on, dragging my PTSD cross with me as I read all of your thoughts online, wallowing vicariously in your comraderie.

Thank you, Keith, for sharing a bit about yourself.......and for relieving any fears I may have had about Bob K.......He did, and still does, have me a bit concerned the way he enjoys flaunting that rythmic dancing banana of his in front of everyones eyes.....hmmmmmm.......lol

Crawling back to my lil corner of the world, I am
Nancy

[DMZ-LT]

You are a very brave and intelligent woman. I think there are quite a few of us here that realize how fortunate we are to just be alive today. I hope you find some peace in your heart here. Welcome here and Welcome Home !!

[lilripple4vets]

Originally posted by DMZ-LT You are a very brave and intelligent woman. I think there are quite a few of us here that realize how fortunate we are to just be alive today. I hope you find some peace in your heart here. Welcome here and Welcome Home !!

Thank you for your comforting words.

Leaving before I get weepy, I am
Nancy

[Boats]

I can say that at least six times in my life so far. I don't know I've made this long. But lately that's the American Way don't you think?

[Stick]

Nancy, you came into the billetts and took the empty bunk. It was there just waiting for you. You hung up your GI's and set down your piece. You're among friends, brothers and sisters. Stay awhile. Welcome home.

[urbsdad6]

Nancy,
Double up especially on what Boats and DMZ-LT said and everyone else too. These are the guys that kept people like me in one piece in Nam and we'll all fight just as fiercly for you. Welcome, welcome welcome.

Doc Urb

[coachman]

Nancy I know that you will thrive here as I have. Welcome home sis. :)

[Doc.2/47]

Nancy,

Seems to me that you are the right place.The causes vary but many of us here are in the same(or very similar) boats.If anyone anywhere can understand and relate to what you are saying and feeling it is the folks on this site.We salute and commend you for the git you've displayed in dealing with the bad that life has brought your way.Shit happenes.It's how you deal with it that really says something important about you.There are more than one way to die.Crawling off,making a shell around yourself,and just ceasing to live is one of them.Many of us have felt-and do so daily-that temptation and I imagine that you do too.Sometimes it's not about weather you win or lose,it's about the fight you're willing to put up dispite the odds.You may have withdrawn some,but you continue affect others through the pictures and emotions you create with your words.You continue to care.I salute you!

If you knew Bob K you would like him.He is a high-ranking police official,a family man,and an altogether honorable and caring individual.He goes waaaay out of his way for others.I have even entrusted(more or less)my wife(also named Nancy and who also has PTSD issues-although she would deny such unto death)and my (BIG,grown)son into his care.Got em back in no worse condition than when they left.Don't let his antics fool you.I think he uses the site to cut up and blow off steam amoung friends and that many of us forget sometimes that other folks may read what we write.

Be well,:32:

[reconeil]

What all are telling here about: "Nicey-nicey" patriotfiles.com might be so on most categories,...but just ain't necessarily so on The Political Forum.

If one dares telling the truth about and/or debunking Democrats there, it's better than even money you will be viley and viciously insulted and character assassinated by some Democrat/Socialist/Leftist Political Hacks (just like seen on nationwide television).

Hell, I even had my mother disparagingly alluded to one time, merely for low-rating America's Moral Superiors and/or foreigner-friendly societal engineers (re. DEMOCRAT LEADERS).
I straightened that out quick.

Neil :d: :b:

[lilripple4vets]

Thanks! I've read your touching posts and will get back here with a response as soon as I can.

Just didn't want you think I've run away. :-)

Nancy