Re: And Now.. A PTSD Flashback moment
 

On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 00:37:59 GMT, "FOB" <FOB@adelphia.net> wrote:

>
>"Yeff" <zoomie@fastmail.fm> wrote in message news:1otve3ox1zwul$.dlg@lemming_militia.com...
>> On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 22:58:02 GMT, JASON A. KAATZ wrote:
>>
>> > Studies in Military Medicine , Journal of, cite ptsd is the result of the
>> > use of substance abuse which can cause flash backs.
>>
>> And suddenly I'm having flashbacks to what a goofy fuck you actually are...
>>
>> -Jeff B.
>> yeff at erols dot com
>
>Tust me Yeff ( heh) No, for real, Jay knows stuff that
>amazed me bc. Trust him.


He runs a close third place behind Otis Willie and StupidVet for
posting idiotic crap. I wouldn't trust him with anything.

He runs off at the mouth accusing anyone who comes along as being a
drug abuser, desparages everyone who is rated 100% disabled (unless
they are his buddies), and more. Fuck him. Hymn, Hymn, Fuck him.

Re: And Now.. A PTSD Flashback moment
 

Sheez - From the "red" comment of course

red
Panama red

--
Nigel Brooks


"Lee" <mini_doxL@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:l0u9tvgiu389ijm8uahq8ohkjhhhfq2q8q@4ax.com...
>
> Kaatz, you are (as always) one stupid shit.
> Where do you get anything about pot smoking from what is written below
> your comment?
> Are you EVER in touch with reality?
>
>
>
> On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 01:16:32 GMT, "JASON A. KAATZ" <jkaatz@nyc.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Your right, heavy pot smoking can cause lots of tears as well as upper
> >respiratory infections up to and after 24 years of leaving the area of
> >operation. Military Medicine, Journal of. Dozens of articles in the
Journal
> >over years on this very subject. P-suedomallie will remain in your lungs
> >dormant up until and after 24 years, dozens of case notes.
> >-----------
> >"Duke of URL" <macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> wrote in message
> >news:vt4shic83bf4d7@corp.supernews.com...
> >> In news:_9tAb.352779$pT1.159082@twister.nyc.rr.com,
> >> JASON A. KAATZ <jkaatz@nyc.rr.com> radiated into the WorldWideWait:
> >>
> >> > How does one get ptsd listening and reading enemy communications ?
> >>
> >> I know some communicators/techicians (in fact, I helped escort one
> >> kid's body back from Mobile PBR Base 1) who were in what you might
> >> call "unsafe conditions".
> >> SHITE! I really wish you hadn't reminded me of Red - 19 and really
> >> nice and killed within two weeks of reporting up there from us.
> >> Damnit, here come the tears. Again.
> >> At my base shop, we had a set-up of radios constantly monitoring
> >> *every* tactical freq within range in ICTZ. Having to listen to some
> >> of what came over the air would give anyone nightmares.
> >>
> >>
> >
>

Re: And Now.. A PTSD Flashback moment
 

In news:wY3Bb.192759$Gq.25060265@twister.nyc.rr.com,
JASON A. KAATZ <jkaatz@nyc.rr.com> radiated into the WorldWideWait:
> "Duke of URL" <macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> wrote in message
> news:vt5s0592t9p06@corp.supernews.com...
>> In news:QbvAb.352818$pT1.297141@twister.nyc.rr.com,
>> JASON A. KAATZ <jkaatz@nyc.rr.com> radiated into the WorldWideWait:
>>> "Duke of URL" <macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> wrote in message
>>> news:vt4shic83bf4d7@corp.supernews.com...
>>>> In news:_9tAb.352779$pT1.159082@twister.nyc.rr.com,
>>>> JASON A. KAATZ <jkaatz@nyc.rr.com> radiated into the
>>>> WorldWideWait:
>>>>
>>>>> How does one get ptsd listening and reading enemy
>>>>> communications ?
>>>>
>>>> I know some communicators/techicians (in fact, I helped escort
>>>> one kid's body back from Mobile PBR Base 1) who were in what you
>>>> might call "unsafe conditions".
>>>> SHITE! I really wish you hadn't reminded me of Red - 19 and
>>>> really nice and killed within two weeks of reporting up there
>>>> from us. Damnit, here come the tears. Again.
>>>> At my base shop, we had a set-up of radios constantly monitoring
>>>> *every* tactical freq within range in ICTZ. Having to listen to
>>>> some of what came over the air would give anyone nightmares.
>>
>>> Your right, heavy pot smoking can cause lots of tears as well as
>>> upper respiratory infections up to and after 24 years of leaving
>>> the area of operation. Military Medicine, Journal of. Dozens of
>>> articles in the Journal over years on this very subject.
>>> P-suedomallie will remain in your lungs dormant up until and after
>>> 24 years, dozens of case notes.
>>
>> ??? I'll take your word for it as one experienced in blowing weed;
>> never had any interest in so much as trying grass myself.
>> What did that have to do with what I said?

> I was under the opinion that most of the PBR bases were in the
> South.

MPBR1 was located *in* the river at Cua Viet.

I recall a few in II Corp south of Qui Nhon. However, was
> never in I Corp. AO that I can recall, however, we did provide from
> the 52CAB some lighting bug (UH-1Bs with lights and flares) while
> the PBR's were on the rivers at night. The only PBR unit we ever
> had any contact with that I recall was on the Son Cau river, South
> of Tuy Hua.
>
> As for flash backs, we saw a lot of action in my unit and I cant
> refcall talking to anyone over the years who claimed they ever had
> ptsd and the majority flew well over 100 missions and several
> hundred sorties, to and including combat assaults with the ROK
> forces who saw some real intensive fighting. Many of the ROK
> forces troopers from the Tiger Division live in the U.S. and know a
> lot of them locally and they sure as hell dont complain of ptsd.

Good for them. Some's lucky; some ain't.

> I do recall a VA study showing that of the entire force that served
> in Vietnam only ten percent claimed they were exposed to the
> herbicides. Of the same group the VA wrote that the same 10% used
> substance abuse one or more times

Now you KNOW that any "study" that says BOTH 10%s are the same people
is total bullshit!
But then, you are the one with the doping experience, not me...

Re: And Now.. A PTSD Flashback moment
 

In article <QbvAb.352818$pT1.297141@twister.nyc.rr.com>,
"JASON A. KAATZ" <jkaatz@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

> Your right, heavy pot smoking can cause lots of tears as well as upper
> respiratory infections up to and after 24 years of leaving the area of
> operation. Military Medicine, Journal of. Dozens of articles in the Journal
> over years on this very subject. P-suedomallie will remain in your lungs
> dormant up until and after 24 years, dozens of case notes.


Your search - P-suedomallie - did not match any documents.
No pages were found containing "suedomallie".

Re: And Now.. A PTSD Flashback moment
 

<Dai-Uy@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Dai-Uy-3890BD.17104708122003@orngca-news02.socal.rr.com...
> In article <QbvAb.352818$pT1.297141@twister.nyc.rr.com>,
> "JASON A. KAATZ" <jkaatz@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Your right, heavy pot smoking can cause lots of tears as well as upper
> > respiratory infections up to and after 24 years of leaving the area of
> > operation. Military Medicine, Journal of. Dozens of articles in the
Journal
> > over years on this very subject. P-suedomallie will remain in your lungs
> > dormant up until and after 24 years, dozens of case notes.
>
>
> Your search - P-suedomallie - did not match any documents.
> No pages were found containing "suedomallie".

Typo, probably
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Re: And Now.. A PTSD Flashback moment
 

"Duke of URL" <macbenahATkdsiDOTnet> wrote in message news:vtab70gotfp193@corp.supernews.com...
>
> > I was under the opinion that most of the PBR bases were in the
> > South.
>
> MPBR1 was located *in* the river at Cua Viet.
>
> I recall a few in II Corp south of Qui Nhon. However, was
> > never in I Corp. AO that I can recall, however, we did provide from
> > the 52CAB some lighting bug (UH-1Bs with lights and flares) while
> > the PBR's were on the rivers at night. The only PBR unit we ever
> > had any contact with that I recall was on the Son Cau river, South
> > of Tuy Hua.


PBR's also operated on the Perfume river from the sea to downtown Hue
(Possibly farther up river but I don't know for sure.)
Pictures of the Barge and said PBR's posted at alt.binaries.pictures.military.
One more thing, I'm shutting down the Hayward operation so I'll be gone
for ?????. To all my friends, see ya a little farther down the river.

Carl Hatchell

Re: And Now.. A PTSD Flashback moment
 

"Carl Hatchell" <Hatch@2xtreme.net> wrote in message
news:vtantv1432dj02@corp.supernews.com...
> One more thing, I'm shutting down the Hayward operation so I'll be gone
> for ?????. To all my friends, see ya a little farther down the river.
>
> Carl Hatchell
>
Take care, and go gently Carl.

Chas Hurst

Re: And Now.. A PTSD Flashback moment
 

"Chas Hurst" <hurst1@comcast.net> wrote in message news:n-CdnbfDz_Lj_EiiRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
>
> "Carl Hatchell" <Hatch@2xtreme.net> wrote in message
> news:vtantv1432dj02@corp.supernews.com...
> > One more thing, I'm shutting down the Hayward operation so I'll be gone
> > for ?????. To all my friends, see ya a little farther down the river.
> >
> > Carl Hatchell
> >
> Take care, and go gently Carl.
>
> Chas Hurst

Thanks Chas.
It just dawned on me that it's been a few days more than 5 years ago that
I found this place and even though it's changed quite a bit, I'm going to miss
it. My phone line will be shutting down in a day or two and then it's "Strike the
tent, the circus moves to Reno."

All the best, Carl

Re: And Now.. A PTSD Flashback moment
 

"Carl Hatchell" <Hatch@2xtreme.net> wrote:
>
>"Chas Hurst" <hurst1@comcast.net> wrote in message news:n-CdnbfDz_Lj_EiiRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Carl Hatchell" <Hatch@2xtreme.net> wrote in message
>> news:vtantv1432dj02@corp.supernews.com...
>> > One more thing, I'm shutting down the Hayward operation so I'll be gone
>> > for ?????. To all my friends, see ya a little farther down the river.
>> >
>> > Carl Hatchell
>> >
>> Take care, and go gently Carl.
>>
>> Chas Hurst
>
>Thanks Chas.
> It just dawned on me that it's been a few days more than 5 years ago that
>I found this place and even though it's changed quite a bit, I'm going to miss
>it. My phone line will be shutting down in a day or two and then it's "Strike the
>tent, the circus moves to Reno."
>
>All the best, Carl

Keep in touch . . . .

Doug

Re: And Now.. A PTSD Flashback moment
 

On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:02:46 -0800, "Carl Hatchell" <Hatch@2xtreme.net>
wrote:

> It just dawned on me that it's been a few days more than 5 years ago that
>I found this place and even though it's changed quite a bit, I'm going to miss
>it. My phone line will be shutting down in a day or two and then it's "Strike the
>tent, the circus moves to Reno."
>
>All the best, Carl
>
>


Take care, Carl. Get back with us when you can.

Lee

Remember Noel in the addy