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Tamaroa 05-05-2002 08:11 AM

$10,000
 
If you were given 10,000 dollars on the condition that you had to donate it to a Civil War cause, battlefield, monument, etc., who would you give it to and why? I'll go first. I would give it to the H.L. Hunley, the confederate sub that sunk the Housatonic. The first sub to sink an enemy in combat (EVER) I think is a worthy item to preserve.

Bill D

usmcsgt65 05-05-2002 08:26 AM

Virginia sites
 
With the growth of DC and the surrounding areas, I go with the Northern Virginia sites from Harper's Ferry to Fredicksburg.

Keith_Hixson 05-05-2002 01:53 PM

I understand their is lots of encroachment!
 
I read that gettysburg needed help. also many sites in Northern Virginia. We out west have lots of encroachment on our historical sites. People and the legistlatures don't seem to respect history.

Keith

navynam 05-06-2002 01:12 AM

War of Northern Agression
 
If I were given 10K to donate to the War of Northern Agression I would donate it to Jeff Davis' home in Mississippi.
Think it is a worth while reminder of a great man.

DMZ-LT 05-06-2002 05:36 AM

I would give it to the great grandson of Pvt. Henry Lawton who fought with Company B , Fourth New Jersey Infantry from Gains Mill to the fall of Petersburg. John Lawton Hager could then buy more stuff for his Harley !:)

Andy 05-06-2002 01:05 PM

War
 
Oh yes, the Great Rebellion, there are many good causes. I live about 10 miles from the statue of Fighting Joe Hooker. I suppose I'd put the money in an account and do what I could for those in "Hooker's Army". I'd take a personal interest and hand it out myself, a real hands on operation.

Stay healthy,
Andy

chilidog 05-08-2002 08:31 PM

worthy causes
 
I am partial to the battles in the west. The battles in the Oklahoma and Arizona Territories are all but forgotten. They never attracted attention like the great battles in the East. Maybe its because they weren't as big as the eastern battles, maybe its because there weren't any big cities nearby like the battles in the east.

Hill Jr. College in Texas is one of the few places that I know of that devotes time and resources to preserving this little bit of history. I would probably give the money to one of their research projects.


chilidog

StoneDogDave 05-29-2002 10:18 AM

10K
 
As for the $10,000... I would donate it to my local school systems with the condition that they take the children to a civil war site.
Too often the kids see the book pages but not the site and without actually being there a lot of information is lost within the text.
Seeing is believing, and seeing is also understanding.

As a side note: I was at Bull Run and Fredericksburg this past weekend. Great sites!

Timothy R. Kuhr 05-30-2002 06:35 PM

Andy - Hooker's Army -
 
sign me up for that campaign! Hey! I'm old, not dead.
As for Hooker's real army, $10'000 wouldn't have helped - they needed a general. Imagine, you outnumber the enemy 2+ to 1, you make him split his forces three ways, and then YOU run! My kids want to tick me off, all they have to do is say Hooker.
First time I tried this forum; gotta go check out the rest. Not to be ghoulish, but do any of you people check out the older graves in your local cemetaries? They sometimes get skipped over when the flags are planted on Memorial Day. Local paper discovered a Revoltionary war vet last year.

Andy 05-31-2002 08:10 AM

Tim
 
I didn't say nor did I intend anyone to infer that Hooker was a good general. Perhaps the only good general that ever came from this state was Arthur Macarthur (Doug's dad).

As far as cemetaries, ours go back to the 1710s. They would go back further but in the late 1600s the Indians massacred the town and destroyed everything including the grave yard. There is a plaque noting the site of the massacre.

In 1868 our old town hall was built. Attached to it is a large white marble plaque listing the 56 men who were killed during the Civil War. They are listed in 3 catigories: Killed in Action, Died in Uniform, and Andersonville. Only 4 or 5 of the men were returned home and their graves are clearly identified.

We also have plaques dedicated to those who died in the Spanish-American war, WWI, WWII, Korea and Vietnam. The Korean and Vietnam stones were dedicated in May of 1996.

There is one stone that really breaks my heart. It looks like the guy died in 1790, first name not readable, last name Pomeroy. It says, "Father of 16 now father will be with them all". Having one child die before you is tragic to the max, 16 children who die before their dad, inconceivable.

Stay healthy,
Andy

Keith_Hixson 05-31-2002 08:30 AM

Tamaroa Where's My $10,000?
 
I thought you were giving away money. That's the only reason I posted.

Andy has posted twice but since he thinks Hooker was a great general :D I have scheduled him for counseling.

Keith:D :) :D

Timothy R. Kuhr 05-31-2002 08:18 PM

Sorry, Andy,
 
Didn't mean you thought Hooker was a good CG. His record speaks for itself.
As far as cemetaries go, you people on the East Coast have a leg up on the rest of us. Weren't nobody much here in the early 1700's but some Frenchmen, Illinois and whatever was left of the Fox tribe after the Miami and Sauk got through with them (Fox couldn't get along with anybody). Oh yeah, the Iriquois put their two cents in; the Fox managed to tick them off too.
Okay, wrong forum. If I really had 10,000 bucks to give, I'ld go with usmcsgt65. Before Manasses is turned into a mall and Cold Harbor into a theme park.
This is edited: Can you say Fredicksburg?

Andy 06-01-2002 10:21 AM

Tim
 
You have to understand that I never get angry on this site (unless people say that Massachusetts residents talk with an accent, it's the rest of you that do.) I re-read my post and did come across as someone who might have an attitude. You have to understand there are folks on this site I've been talking with for over 3 years. Some of them think the South didn't really loose the Great Rebellion on '61-'65. You'll notice some of them southern boys sign their names as R.E. something or J.E.B. something.

The mention of Generals like Hooker and Burnside are somewhat of an embarrassment to us New Englanders and usually cause me to comment on Ewell or Hood (when he was out west). Really didn't mean to sound like I was jumping on you, just a conditioned response.

Stay healthy, and God bless W.T. Sherman,
Andy

Timothy R. Kuhr 06-01-2002 09:39 PM

Andy,
 
No sweat, I didn't take it that way at all. And Pope was a bit of an embarassment too, but against people like Lee and Jackson and N.B.Forrest (I think JEB was a tad over-rated), you run a real strong chance of getting embarrassed. 'Scuse me, gotta go pahk the cah.
Just a P.S.: JEB did all right with Jackson's boys at Chancellorsville, but as far as cavalry went, he didn't have a whole lot of competion in the first couple years.

Andy 06-02-2002 06:43 AM

Well, well
 
There's a man on this site who be bad mouthing old JEB. Now Tim, keep your head down. If any of those southern boys read this thread rocks are about to come your way.

I agree with you on two other issues, Pope was pathetic and Forrest was a great general. Forest was not much of a man, and that Ft. Pillow thing could well be seen as a war crime, but his ability to lead men in the field - amazing. Did you know the German War College used Forrest as their bright shining example when then came up with field tactics for their Panzer Divisions?

Stay healthy,
Andy

chilidog 06-02-2002 01:36 PM

Arrrgggghhh!
I heard that! I'll kindly refer ya'll to the post "Ole Jeb" further back in this forum. Don't forget to include "Beast Butler" in your list of dastardly yankees during the "War of Northern Aggression."


chilidog

Tim, you sign your posts "9th." Were you in "The Walking Dead" or "Hell in a Helmet?" I read the book about Operation Buffalo in '67 by Keith Nolan. That was a tough time.

Timothy R. Kuhr 06-03-2002 12:57 AM

Chili-dog.
 
You got the first rock upside my head - and pretty much on target. "Spoons" did get kinda high-handed down in Nawleans.
Maybe one of those chamberpots got him and not a junior officer; generals get kinda testy about that kind of thing. (Hmmm? could be a chance that there was an enlisted man in blue on the other end - you know how they feel about pompous officers?).
9th stands for 9th Engineer Batt., 1t MarDiv, at ChuLai from Mar'67 'til June"68.
And. Suh! I will pick up the gaunlett and defend my position. JEB was feathers in his hat and chivalry and Charge of the Light Brigade. NFB understood mobility and shock - he was the first modern cavalry commander. You wanna stretch some points, he would be a great mech div. commander and even a great paratroop commander. Brandy Station would have been a whole lot diffferent with NFB in charge.

StoneDogDave 06-03-2002 08:02 AM

If you want to talk about a big blot on the Union side...
How about the "Beast" Butler down in New Orleans..
Now there was someone that even good fiction writers couldn't make up. Happy Posting!:D


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