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sealady 04-05-2004 02:06 PM

flowers
 
I went to a florist today, to send two yellow roses for colleagues at work.

The florist asked if I wanted to send a card.

I said, no. I want them to be anonymous.

He said he had been sued by the recipient when his company had sent flowers without cards, so would not deliver the rose.

So, I delivered them myself in person. He lost the delivery fee.

I didn't know roses could be threatening.

America, the beautiful, from sea to shining sea.

Keith_Hixson 04-05-2004 02:33 PM

Now I've been around the legal block a few times.
 
Delivery of roses without a card is not a cause for a lawsuit? If he really was sued, I'm sure it was thrown out of court.

I think He just didn't want to deliver the flowers and this was a way to get out of the delivery.

There were no laws broken, no one was harmed. Lawsuit, sounds fishy to me.

Keith

MORTARDUDE 04-05-2004 02:36 PM

I buy my flowers at Kroger now and deliver them myself.... Much cheaper, better selection, and no hassle. Florists charge way too much, and the quality is not that good anymore, unless you are willing to pay a lot.

Larry

sealady 04-05-2004 03:03 PM

This may or may not come as a surprise, but sending anything anonymously (or unwanted) COULD be considered a form of stalking.

If a woman receives a gift and doesn't know who it came from, that also can be seen as a threat.

(Who is this person, what do they want, what are they next going to do to me?)

SparrowHawk62 04-05-2004 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sealady This may or may not come as a surprise, but sending anything anonymously (or unwanted) COULD be considered a form of stalking.
If a woman receives a gift and doesn't know who it came from, that also can be seen as a threat.
(Who is this person, what do they want, what are they next going to do to me?)
That's a sad commentary on the world we live in today.

reeb 04-05-2004 04:21 PM

Sealady,

No worry, No harm, No fret,

Word has it that OJs lawyers are working on it right now, so they cna make some money, cause he sure aint paying what he was suppose to.

enough...............

sealady 04-05-2004 05:34 PM

Yes, it is a sad commentary that when your intent was to bring a bit of joy into someone's life that you could get sued for it.

I'm sure the florist regretted the extra income, but it would not have been worth the hassle of someone getting "offended" by a flower. What I would like to know is what shark of an attorney would even accept such a complaint?

Keith_Hixson 04-05-2004 08:06 PM

Stalking NOW that's a stretch.
 
Still can't see any grounds for a lawsuit! Sounds very fishing to me.

Keith

Drywall 04-06-2004 08:03 AM

Unfortunately, nothing like this surprises me anymore.

Timothy R. Kuhr 04-06-2004 08:53 AM

Sharks and little fishies
Keith and sealady, reading your posts together, I can see it. Caring is a liability; hot coffee is an opportunity.

David 04-06-2004 08:59 AM

Seems to me like it would have to be a very paranoid women to charge stalking in such an incident. I would venture to guess she most likely needs psychiatric help rather then a lawyer.

SparrowHawk62 04-06-2004 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sealady Yes, it is a sad commentary that when your intent was to bring a bit of joy into someone's life that you could get sued for it.
I'm sure the florist regretted the extra income, but it would not have been worth the hassle of someone getting "offended" by a flower. What I would like to know is what shark of an attorney would even accept such a complaint?
Here in New York, stones throw from the sewer (city) I can give you a phone books worth of them!

I do tend to enclose a card when I send flowers, I gonna try not doing it next time and see what happens..

revwardoc 04-06-2004 11:35 AM

Even delivering flowers in person can have unforseen consequences. I had been working 60 hour weeks for several months for a small division of a company (about 60 employees, 40 some odd of them, women). Having some extra cash and it being Christmas, I bought each of them a single red rose and a piece of fancy-ass Swiss chocolate. They loved it...but some husbands didn't! That night I had 5 messages on my answering machine telling me, in no uncertain terms, to never "...give my wife flowers again, you f***in' a**hole!" or variations of that theme. Two of them even threatened me at work after the Christmas break. It was a sad end to what I thought was a nice gesture.

DMZ-LT 04-06-2004 12:01 PM

Rev , not even the smallest gesture of goodness ever goes unpunished. ( Did ya get any ?) :ae:

Dragon Lady 04-06-2004 04:25 PM

On this whole stalking thing...
 
We have very tight security at our company and you can't get past the receptionist unless you have an escort with an electronic swipe card.

Well we had this one vendor that was in the lobby one day when a young lady from Accounting was leaving. In the 15 seconds that it took for her to get through the lobby this guy decided that she would be the next Mrs. Stalker.

He nonchallantly asked the receptionist the name of the young lady and unfortunately our receptionist was caught off guard and gave out the name.
That was the "in" he needed. He managed his way through our automated phone system (not an easy feate) and started calling her several times a day.
He then started finding reasons to come to the labs and we soon found that we could no longer leave him alone to do his work. We had to pay an employee to babysit this guy and make sure he ONLY came in, worked and left, immediately. Our security guys would extend their day just so they could escort her to her car and make sure she drove away unharmed.

His final step was to start sending flowers ever single day. They were very pretty and we used them to decorate the lobby instead of sending them to the young lady since she was visibly upset by them.

She had to spend time and money to hire a lawyer, get a restraining order, and change her driving routes to and from work (added fuel cost there). Our company was forced to break the vending contract (he was an owner/operator) and hire another company to handle our very expensive glassware orders. The company even took out an additional restraining order on this maniac.
We had to change her extension, and put out a general notice that if this man was seen we were to call Security at once.

The cost involved in this man not being able to take a simple no for an answer is astounding...not to mention that this young lady rarely feels safe anywhere she goes while the rest of us rarely give it a thought.

It is indeed a very sad state of affairs when we come to this.

Although Dan...if you had given the ladies a white rose the reception might have been a little different. Red roses are the flower of love after all. Besides, you made those guys look bad 'cause they didn't think of it first. :D

I remind my husband every year to pick something up for the ladies in his office. I would do the shopping but I think something like this should come from him.

And that's my 2 cents worth.
DL

MORTARDUDE 04-06-2004 06:45 PM

sheeesh...stories about flowers.. there are some real sick puppies around..

DL :

Did anyone do a background check on this stalker dude ? Chances are he had been doing this before and probably got into trouble and may have even been on probation.

Rev :

Wow !! Some mighty insecure males, I would say....sad.
Did any of those folks ever apologize to you ?

Larry

revwardoc 04-07-2004 04:55 AM

DMZ-Lt,

Nope, I didn't get any. I wasn't even trying for it. It was strictly a "Peace On Earth, Goodwill To Men (in this case, Women)" seasonal gesture (and, NO, it's not PIECE on earth! ;-)

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dragon Lady,

Hey, I'm a guy! I didn't know squat about which color roses are associated with what emotion. I personally like red roses and thought everyone did. Now I know enough to check for small craft warnings before I put out to the sea of sensitivity.

Dragon Lady 04-07-2004 07:17 AM

Larry,
To be honest this was nearly two years ago and I wasn't involved with the cops on the issue. I only knew about this much because at the time I was assisting in covering the desk and they needed to brief me on the situation. I found out the other details about the company cost and all that...about a week ago when I saw the girl again. She no longer works for our company. She just couldn't take the thought that he would show up again.

Dan, you do know that I was just yanking your chain there buddy, right? I do think there might be small craft advisories out for today though. :)

DL

Keith_Hixson 04-07-2004 08:15 AM

Hey Rev.
 
This is a good one:

Jesus as a stalker. A young lady started attending a church. She became quite involved in the activities of the church. One day the pastor had a visit from her husband.
This young fellow comes into the pastor's office angry. And he says that because of the church his wife is having an affair with some guy in the church. The pastor asks him if he knew who it was. And he blurted out, "Its some guy by the name of Jesus." "All she ever talks about is this Jesus and how much she loves him." Then he said, "If I ever get my hands on him I'll kill him.' At that the pastor said, "They did 2000 years ago." And explained to him about Jesus.

Keith

P.S. This is suppose to be a true story.

Andy 04-07-2004 09:32 AM

Now for something completely different
 
Had a woman who reported a sexual assault. The guy was arrested an got to move into the gray bar motel for a couple of years.

He came from a large, close knit family. The woman started receiving all sort of unwanted gifts, including flowers. An investigation began. However the woman was stressed enough she moved, she moved out of state due to fear she would become of victim again.

Some people, usually women, have some real baggage. If you don't know their history and you have no reason to, a well intentioned gift may not get the result you were looking for.

Dan, had something similar happen. I had a victim who was very happy when the perp was arrested. That Christmas I sent what my wife and I thought was a very "up lifting" Christmas card. Her boyfriend, who I think was Jewish, reported me to the Mayor accusing me of all sort of evil things. I smile and a kind word is the best way to go unless your sure no one will be offended.
It's still pretty sad.

Stay healthy,
Andy

MORTARDUDE 04-07-2004 08:41 PM

I went grocery shopping this afternoon at Kroger. The selections, prices, and folks that work there are still better than anywhere else around here. I noticed most of the folks in the store appeared to be over 70....I broke my all-time personal rercord of $ 423 worth of food and non-food items in one grocery cart. Needless to say, it took two carts to wheel it out. This will last us a month or so...I also got a dozen roses of mixed colors and some gladiolas for a grand total of $ 14 + tax !! My wife was well pleased. I am going to crank up the old crock pot and try to do laundry... That is one chore I really dislike..not sure why...if you have any good crock pot recipes ( or soup recipes of any kind ), please post them for me..I need all the help I can get. LOL ..I plan on freezing a good portion of what I cook, so I don't have to buy prepared meals ( also called TV dinners ) any more...and how was your day ??

Larry

P.S. : I can't believe I have been retired almost a week now.....

Dragon Lady 04-07-2004 09:25 PM

Quote:

I am going to crank up the old crock pot and try to do laundry... That is one chore I really dislike..not sure why...
I can see why you need some recipies!! :az:
Just a hint Larry...you usually do the laundry in the washing machine. This is why men shouldnt do the laundry. Another reason...they always seem to find the most expensive piece of DRY CLEAN ONLY in the closet and throw that in on hot.

My husband took the pants of his brand new wool suit (cost me over $300 for that suit!) and tossed them in on hot wash and high dry. They did measure 30" waist x 36" inseam. When he was done they fit a fat leprechaun! :m:


I'll dig through my recipe book and send you a few juicy ones.

DL

Doc.2/47 04-07-2004 09:57 PM

Flowers:

For the life of me I just never have been able to figure out why some women want a man to go out and chop off the sexual organs of a plant and present them to her.I've been told that they consider this romantic.This may be so but I'm convinced that romance and the mutiation of sexual organs are two activities that should never be combined.I'm not the only one who feels this way.Fella name a Bobbit agrees with me.

Larry-

Please be advised that the crockpot is NOT the reccomended machine for use in doing laundry.Sure can see why you'd hate doing it that way,that's gotta take forever.Besides, left over soap film doesn't do a whole lot for the flavor of a stew,although it will help keep you regular.Been a long time fan of slow cookin-I'll see if I can't give you some tips that'll help at the rally.

Thanks for your help in gettin back on here!Owe ya one.

BLUEHAWK 04-08-2004 04:37 AM

There's a way to find out about flower language, especially rose language, on internet... real interesting.

About laundry... there's darks, and lights alright, but its them in-between colors that throw me... so I just don't do them. I don't know where women get the knowledge about which kind of water to put on clothes either.

Larry, since you helped Doc get back on, then I'm talking to ya again :D

HI DOC! I MISSED YA!

revwardoc 04-08-2004 05:03 AM

flower power
 
When I was working at a company in Concord, MA there was a guy who used to sell flowers near the Concord rotary. I'd stop every payday and get my wife a bouquet. One day a co-worker asked why I did this so I gave him one of those "wink-wink-nudge-nudge" looks and said, "Flowers aren't a gift...they're an investment!" He took the hint and got some for his wife. The following Monday he returned the "look" and said, "Man, were you ever right!" After that, the flower-guy's business almost doubled just from guys in my company.

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DMZ-LT 04-08-2004 05:37 AM

Wed. is Senior night at Kroger
 
Like Larry I noticed everyone in the store was really old but then I realized it was Senior night and they got 5% off. Got my items and left. When I got home I looked at my receipt and I had gottin the 5% off. They had become me !

MORTARDUDE 04-08-2004 07:50 AM

Mike :

OK !

Larry

Dragon Lady 04-08-2004 02:55 PM

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Ahhh LT that's one of the perks of becoming an Opa! :)

As for the laundry and sortin and water and detergent....its simple, women read the directions FIRST and then do the task. Men only read them AFTER its broke. Saw my dad and my husband do this many times. That's why I call them destructions instead of instructions. :D


If you look at the tags on your clothes it tells you quite plainly how to care for them. You know the ones that say DRY CLEAN ONLY? They are usually the most expensive ones in the closet...like long velvet formal gowns or hand washed like lingerie.

DL

Dragon Lady 04-08-2004 03:00 PM

Now as for the flowers...

Red Roses are love
Yellow Roses are envy (you know that whole thou shalt not covet thing)
White is for friendship
Pink is for sweetheart (teen love, puppy love)

Daisies are what my husband buys me because I can't fathom spending $70 on a dozen roses that never open and just die on the stem. Besides I like the ones on my antique rose bush in the garden much better than any hibred tea rose that doesn't even smell nice.

Doc,
I suppose I would rather have handed to me the reproductive organs from a plant as opposed to a human. :P
Yuck!

C Ya Fellas!

DL

revwardoc 04-08-2004 05:33 PM

another flower story
 
As I'm sure most of you remember, GI's didn't make a lot of money back in the 60's. Since I learned early in life that women love getting flowers, I had to come up with some way to procure some and still have enough cash to take a gal on a date. Inspiration struck me as I was sitting in traffic waiting for a funeral procession to pass by. After the hearse came...the flower car! At that point I came to the logical conclusion that flowers had no meaning to the deceased so I followed the cars to the cemetery and waited for all the mourners to leave, then helped myself to a very lovely bouquet which, incidentely, was a big hit with my date. With that success under my belt, it became a regular routine to stop at the nearest boneyard before a potentially romantic rendezvous and gather an armful of "investement" off of a freshly planted "contributor". I was once briefly tempted to grab one of those big round jobbers with a ribbon banner that said, "To Papa, We'll Miss You", but decided that it would be tacky. Hey, I may have been cheap, but I still had a bit of class!

BLUEHAWK 04-09-2004 05:07 AM

DL -

Hep Zoomie with this please... (I'd like to impress Lady Carol next time she's too sick to sort laundry :D

If I there is a cotton shirt say, and it is maybe black and white checkered I know at least you can't use bleach to get the white parts cleaner since it takes color out from the black parts, and it ain't a white and it ain't a dark (which are supposed to be kept together for washing, in one or the other kind of water)... so, what kind of water does it go in and with dark or with light?

sealady 04-09-2004 06:26 AM

DL:

Thanks for giving the guys the correct "rose etiquette". However, in a pinch, any old posies will do. Remember, it's the thought that counts (no matter where they come from).

Just remember to sign the card, or better yet, deliver them in person.

Dragon Lady 04-09-2004 04:12 PM

My Dear Lady you are so right. That's what I have tried to tell my husband for 8 years...he finally got it this year. Brought me pink daiseys instead of those old roses.

I just want him to use his imagination and not rely on sellers to do it for him.

Its so nice to see another posting for another lady around here. I love talking with Arrow, but we seem to be on different time schedules.
Keep coming back SeaLady!
DL


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