Er, uhm. Some thoughts on the elections
 

The people have spoken: Blowjobs are to be between one man and one woman. No more young boys or male prostitutes.

Lobbyists have doubled in Washington to 35,000 since Bush became president. The Democrats hope to improve on that.

It is now evident how many attack ads a half a billion dollars will buy for the Republicans. The Dems were poor, only $400,000. Both caused picking a candidate to be similar to hunting for a penny in a spitoon.

We are one step closer to banning married gays from burning the flag.

Rumsfeld has been freed to do what he was meant to do: Argue with himself in the mirror.

Thus spoketh the people.

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Yeah seems that way. Dems now control House and Senate. Bush is a lameduck now that is for sure.

What walks with a limp and quacks? George W. Bush!

Almost sounds like ya'll wish that 'Rambo' Kerry would have won. :D

He's too educated to be in the military :25: :25: but he is dumb enough to be a Senator. :g: :m: :r: :aj:

Iraq went too long.
 

That's the bottom line. Just like Vietnam went too long. WWII seems to have been a short war when compared to Vietnam and Iraq. Rumsfeld fights a war like George McClellan.

Keith

Keith,

Gotta disagree with you on that. McClellan cared for him men; to Rummy, GI's are just so much expendable meat.

yea,...
 

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...If that isn't the biggest line of shi+,...

... coming from one who is totally against any firearm ownership,...

...But as soon as feces hits the fan, she'd be the first to say "protect me",...

...She, and the rest of "whinerwood" hasn't a clue about what it means to wear the uniform, let alone uphold it's honors,...

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You may be right.
 

Rumsfeld never seemed to be compassionate. McClellan was compassionate, maybe too compassionate for an Army General.

Gracie,
In war people are going to die. I would agree that one life lost is one too many but on the other side of the coin is the fact that if there aren't any lives lost you aren't fighting a war or the enemy is on the run. I don't think Rosie's comment made a lot of sense.

HOWEVER, we should have been in out a lot quicker than what we have been. I think Rumsfeld policies had a lot to do with the way the war was fought.

Keith

Now you two kids behave yourself. My counciling agenda if too full with Bob K and Tom Packo.
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Re: Iraq went too long.
 

Bro Keith: you seem to have fallen into the same mental trap as others. Conducting a counter-terrorism campaign is similar to a counter-insurgency; both are totally different from the general type of warfare of WWII, and by definition will be longer, calling for more patience, the rarest commodity of the American people.

Rosie is extemporaneous, quick and probably has a worthy thought from-time-to time, maybe. But her off-scrip adlibbing makes her a seagull and not on the team or any team but her own. Her gimmick mock masturbating of a phallus during the playing of the National Anthem self-defined her as a seagull and that?s as good as that gets. Seagulls dive bomb and crap on the turret tops n? deck mounts, add nothing and do nothing but make a mess to clean up. Good money to be made being a seagull, many are called but few are chosen.
In the instance of Iraq, Rosie lacks context, almost a millennium and a half worth.

Iraq is a freaking buzz saw and ground zero for the perpetual warring between Islamic ideologies. The window of opportunity for Iraq to pursue a national identity and representative government has been slammed shut by a combination of internal and external forces, and the fratricidal bloodletting will go on and on and on as far as the eye can see.
I can only presume that Rosie finds the prospect of Iraq becoming an intense and waring Totalitarian dictatorship-Islamic theocracy; i.e., like the Taliban, highly acceptable, but she is hardly alone among the Hollywood ?elite? in this cause du jour.

Point in fact is that Americans have been killed by or as a result of Iraq for a couple of decades or more, this will continue plus escalate and Rosie?s blow-holeing about that changing or anyone winning in Iraq would be silly if it were not for the perpetual human slaughter and carnage that has gone on for 1400 years.
War as a business and for the sake of war is the way of things and life in that region and the very prospect of ?peace making? is sufficient cause for increased warring. But I wouldn?t expect Rosie to expose herself to such realties and risk her status as a maxed out -premo seagull.
But seagulls play it fast and loose with historical fact and current fact so long as it stuffs their mattress but reality always remains the same, regardless, and reality always becomes due and payable.

Scamp

I'm just glad elections are over for now. Couldn't watch TV without hearing how evil one or the other person was.

I second that Mel and like Doc. Fred mused; all too often it?s a choice of picking one of two pennies in the same spittoon.

Nice pic and thought, but details, details. The USN hasn?t had right arm rates for over sixty years and just like other US Services, put the US deco stack on the left side and foreign decos go on the right side. Looks like someone flipped the neg, but still a great pic and thought. :14:

Scamp

Thanks for pointing that out!

Happy Days Are here again !!!
 

C'MON EVERYBODY--ALL TOGETHER IN BIPARTISAN UNITY!!

Haaaaaapppppyyy Days are Heeeeere again
The skies above are clearv again
Let us sing a song of cheer again
HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAAAAAAAAAAAIN!!!!!

What America is finally going to get is oversight, a duty the Republican Congress has abdicated completely these last 6 years. Now youre going to see a different world where Congress plays an actual part. There's been no accounting at all of the over $400 billion spent in Iraq alone these last 3+ years, nor for any of the Republioccan record deficits, totalling more than all other deficits combined. Government spending has soared these last 6 years, growing the government over 50%. Want to know where all that money went? Youre going to find out now. All about how well those no-bid contracts served the American people. All about how the contractors got the no bid contracts. Was the money spent wisely or stolen? Its going to be interesting to find out.
Now that we know that the information that led us into this war was all wrong, we want to find out how it became policy leading to this war.
There's lots of other things we want to look at, too. Consider this a time of enlightenment coming out of the Dark Ages.
The two main drivers in this election seem to have been the Republican failures in Iraq and the Republican culture of corruption. America needs to spend some time figuring out what has actually happened these last 6 years of no oversight at all and thats, unfortunately, going to be very unpleasant for the previous people in charge of the Congress. (giggles)
America finally sees that there was nothing in it for us at all in this war for Iraq. The fantasies of Iraq becoming a loyal useful ally are disintegrated. America's finally waking up to the fact that we were better off with Saddam there than not. The containment that George HW Bush set up was working just fine.
Now that everybody is waking up to what a mistake this war is, and who got us into it, the question is going to wind up being--"Who wants to be the last man (or woman) to die for this horrendous Republican mistake?"

Stay good, all
God Bless America
James

The Legislative Branch, now Democratic, of our government has been elected to introduce and debate legislation and then write up that legislation into an Act of Congress and send it to the Executive Branch, now Republican, for signature into law.
The Executive Branch (R) has the ability to propose legislation to Congress (D) and it's a Congressional obligation to accept and debate those proposals and enact them into Acts of Congress and then submit those acts to the Executive Branch (R) for signature into law or ignore what the Executive Branch (R) has sent to the Congress (D). The President (R) does not have the ability to write "Law."
In a, for the most part, a two political party system that America has the President (R), being of one party of political persuasion might suggest to Congress (D) something that his or her political party favors and if the Legislative Branch's (D) majority party is of the other party there is a better than even chance that what one party suggest, the other party will ignore or modify to the liking of that majority parties persuasion.
President Bush, Republican.
The Congress of the United States, Democrat
Don't be the least bit surprised if for the remainder of the term of President Bush, Congress sits with their thumbs up their a... ... doing nothing that the other party suggest, AKA President Bush, or Bush vetoes what the opposition party, AKA the American Congress, sends to him.
Nothing accomplished for the remainder of his term makes President Bush a "LAME DUCK." The people have spoken and the majority will speak to their Congressional caucus BUT that does not mean that the opposition party will be heard and favorably reacted to.
America is once again in for a period of time when its government will accomplish nothing accept spending tax dollars for that nothing.

Brice,
 

The war in Iraq isn't going well because western culture doesn't understand Arab Muslim culture. It never will because we just don't think like they think. I believed and still think that we should have attacked Iraq badly crippled Iraq and got out. That would have slowed down the situation and stablized the middle east without the tremendous expenditures and loss of life we are now incurring. We are unsuccessful in Iraq because we don't understand the culture.

James,
Both parties are full of corruption, give someone a little political power and they run with it. Republican or Democrat, Independent or Green Peace, or whatever power will corrupt. Plus the fact that we love our sociopaths (those charming, lying, smiling folks that want to run for office). Science tell us that sociopaths are about 1% of the population, my guess among politicians is that it is closer to 10% because that is a "power job" which is attractive to sociopaths. Now having been in public office I have noticed one thing and that goes for both the liberal , moderate and conservative. Most politicians are good honest people trying to do what's right. Most want peace and prosperity for all, they just have a different world view of how to obtain it. I do believe that most folks with a more liberal bent have a very little idea that the world wide danger that "radical muslims" are capable of doing. We must be very careful and watch those folks very close because they have worldwide domination on their mind. The democrats and liberals won't take care of the terrorism threats in the world because they refuse to acknowledge them.

I wish I had a party that would meet my criteria for a good party. The Republicans often fall short in the domestic issues and concersns with the lower middle class and poor. The democrats are on the wrong side of the moral issues. The democrats usually have a hard time balancing budgets, the republicans don't do much better but don't seem too interested in helping the less fortunate. I usually go with the moral issues when I vote because I feel I'm pushed into that corner. Plus I think the conservatives understand the terrorist problem better that the more liberal group.

Keith

Quote:

Now that everybody is waking up to what a mistake this war is, and who got us into it, the question is going to wind up being--"Who wants to be the last man (or woman) to die for this horrendous Republican mistake?"

James,for cryin' out loud, that statementsounds like somethingissued by that wacko Fred Phelps out of Kansas.

I recently heard a young troop quote a Vietnam Veteran that told him "we fought for each other".He went on to say he wasglad to be home but anxious to go backbecause he was worried about those he left behind in Iraq.If he's the last man to die in Iraqhisbrothers, his sisters, and allright thinking Americans will honor and remember him as man that layed his life down for his friends.

Arrow>>>>>>>

I have decided what I am politically. I am neither Republican nor Democrat, Conservative nor Liberal. I am what the Founding Fathers really intended. I am an employer and if they screw up, out they go. Rumsfeld didn't listen to his Generals and fired anyone who disagreed with him, didn't know the enemy and ran the war on the business model. I've heard that before.

Now the Democrats think we like them and their wacko politics. I think they can really screw their chance if they remain idealogues instead of doing what works, no matter where it sits on the Left vs Right one dimensional line. They seem to be suffering from the effects of too much LSD earlier in their lives. If they would look beyond who got elected to what initiatives were passed they would realize we the middle class aren't them.

Meanwhile the Republicans are smug self righteous hypocrites who did sell us out over and over to special interests when they thought we liked them.

Fred,
 

Let's start our own Party!

Keith

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..It's in Ga. the last week of April,...

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Pelosi's new rules
 

A new day's coming in the House anyway, her'es what Pelosi's new rules are going to be. A far cry from republican "corruption as usual!" America's tired of the corrupt old Republican way of doing things. This is part of our plan to keep Republicans out of politics--when they see they won't be getting any income from the federal government other than what theyre paid, they'll run away screaming.
These are the types of rules that the Republican ccmpletely ran away from. They had their chance to enact rules like this but cut and ran. Their idea of changing the rules to make America better was to throw out the rule of Congressional leaders mjust resign from their leadership posts if indicted. This is known as the "Tom Delay" rule. (they changed this back after the public outcry.
No, the Republican never contemplated common sense reform like this, it cuts down their income stream to nothing. No more Abramoff skyboxes, no more Rolls Royces and yachts to Congressmen, no more $5000 golf trips to Scotland.
What this will do is force republican Congressmen to live on their salaries, not the political boodle from lobbyists. One nice thing for sure--it'll hurt them more than it hurts us.
Have a nice day, all,
Stay good
James

from: http://www.cbc.ca/news/reportsfromab...new_rules.html

"The act is a tough document, authored by Nancy Pelosi, the San Francisco-area congresswomen who has been the Democratic House leader since 2002. She will likely be the House Speaker if the Democrats win next Tuesday.

Here are some of the new rules Pelosi wants:

No House member may accept any gift of any value from lobbyists, or any firm or association that hires lobbyists.

No free travel, which means an end to the corporate jet line every Friday at Reagan National Airport.

No free tickets to Redskins games; or no meals of any value, even at a McDonalds; no front-row seats at entertainment venues. No, no and no.

Temptations resisted

To reduce temptations to cheat, Pelosi's bill attacks the usefulness of members to richly endowed lobbyists.

House members will no longer be able to slip in special-interest projects on unrelated legislation. Such measures will no longer be allowed on a bill once negotiations between the Senate and House are complete.

Further, all bills will be made available to the public a full 24 hours before a final vote; presumably this gives watchdog groups a chance to flag any skullduggery.

Under the Pelosi rules, lobbyists will no longer be able to use the House gym (you'd be surprised how much gets negotiated in a sauna). Lobbyists will no longer be allowed onto the House floor or to use the cloakrooms just off the floor, preventing last-minute arm-twisting.

What's more, no member or staffer will be able to negotiate for employment in the public sector without disclosing such contacts to the House Ethics Committee, and within three days of such contact being made.

Finally, all of this will be audited and investigated by a new Office of Public Integrity, and that office reports, directly and only, to the U.S. Attorneys Office."

James
 

I predict in the next two years that Sister Pelosi will be investigated for some kind of corruption. PBS has thread on the history of corruption in congress.
They are many corrupt, there are very few non corrupt folks in congress according to PBS. The corruption is just amazing in congress. When the democrats were in control there was a lot of corruption.
Kennedy, Johnson, etc. It goes on and on. Corruption resides in both parties, unfortunately. Power corrupts and total power corrupts totally.
Now we'll have Democrat corruption.

Keith

Now if they will work five days a week instead of three and cut their pay to below the President's. Oh yeah, WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE! HEAR THAT REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS? Many families abandon their gay relatives when they come out. But when the gay person gets sick, here come the families, throwing out the one who cared for the person and take all his possessions no matter what the wishes of the gay person. Fix it. It ain't gay marriage and you don't have to be gay to get screwed by this custom. My aunt lived with my grandmother all her life because my grandmother had one arm. She was able to teach school but doing the daily chores of existance was too diffcult. So we have two females living together, life partners, and my aunt go no social security nor had any property rights. Fix it, Democrats and lay off something that is not going to happen any way soon.

What Doc said :ae:

And when the pork stops rolling out in barrels from the US Congress I will believe what Pelosi stated! till then their all crooks some just haven't been caught YET!

James, you don't have to be corrupt to be a wacko. Pelosi has been so out of touch with the middle class she might as well be a
Republican.