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Son-Of-Pilot 10-28-2008 09:38 AM

Dirty thirty help!
 
I am looking for help. My dad, who is now 73 years old, is a Vietnam War veteran and was a pilot with the original Dirty Thrity. He was in Vietnam from April 1962 to April 1963. I have seen the unit picture and my dad is top row center so I know he was there with the other guys but I am having problems getting any informaton on the unit and it's histroy. :confused:

I have been able to make contact with only a few veterans who flew with my dad and the wife of a deceased veteran. I am really hoping there are people here who can help me with my research becasue I really want to put something together for my dad before he passes. :(

The Air Force has not been terribly forthcoming and I am really beginning to wonder what the deal is. :eek:

Please help if you can. Thanks all.

Packo 10-28-2008 10:22 AM

Son
 
It might help if you give the actual unit name that your dad was in. He was there early but I bet he saved many ground unit lives with his actions. We are all very proud of your dad.

Pack

Son-Of-Pilot 10-28-2008 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Packo (Post 421830)
It might help if you give the actual unit name that your dad was in. He was there early but I bet he saved many ground unit lives with his actions. We are all very proud of your dad.

Pack


I believe the official designation was the 43rd Air Transport Squadron (or Maybe Group). I am not sure if this was a USAF or a VNAF designation. Since the commander was Col. Nguyen Ky then there might not have been an actual USAF designation. :confused:

39mto39g 10-28-2008 03:10 PM

Web sites
http://www.examiner.com/p-56387~_The...__Realism.html

Tan_Son_Nhut_Air_Base Tan_Son_Nhut_Air_Base
http://www.ereleases.com/pr/the-dirt...-realism-10814

Ron

Son-Of-Pilot 10-28-2008 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 39mto39g (Post 421855)
Web sites

Ron

Ron,

I appreciate the links, however the first and third ones you sent are about a man in the Army and his experiences in 1968.

My dad's unit was there April 1962 to April 1963. The second group was there until April 1964.

This is just an example of the problems I am having .... apparently the phrase "Dirtyt Thirty" was pretty popular back then. :cool:

Todd

pete v 10-28-2008 03:26 PM

hope this helps
 
There was also a group of guys in the early part of the war called Jungle Jim.

They were flying old transports and bombers. The people were there mostly on TDY basis at first.

Maybe the Air Commando Association can be of some help.

I will try a few things for you as I have time.

Pete

pete v 10-28-2008 04:19 PM

I looked on the AFHS and did not find any information on the 43rd Airlift Squadron. I also checked the AF Together We Served web site and did not find any thing.

More information might help.

Pete

Son-Of-Pilot 10-29-2008 12:52 PM

Dirty Thirty Patch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pete v (Post 421861)
I looked on the AFHS and did not find any information on the 43rd Airlift Squadron. I also checked the AF Together We Served web site and did not find any thing.

More information might help.

Pete

Well ... lets try this:

The patch the guys wore on their flight suits was round .... the top half was blue and the bottom half was red. There was a black ram's head in the center with a yellow lightning bolt behind the ram's head. There was a red ring near the edge of the circle with the words "BA MUOI LAM" on the top and the words "THE DIRTY THIRTY" on the bottom.

I hope this helps ....

Todd

Packo 10-29-2008 05:20 PM

Reaching back
 
40 years, I think Ba Muoi means 30 for sure.....I get that from drinking Ba Muoi Ba, which meant 33'. So....they obviously were the Lam 30....but anymore, can't help. Someone will come up with sumpin' for you.

Pack

Son-Of-Pilot 10-29-2008 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Packo (Post 421952)
40 years, I think Ba Muoi means 30 for sure.....I get that from drinking Ba Muoi Ba, which meant 33'. So....they obviously were the Lam 30....but anymore, can't help. Someone will come up with sumpin' for you.

Pack


Knowing my luck Lam probably means Dirty. :eek:

I just can't seem to get much headway on this project ....

Todd


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