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Complacent Americans?
Wow!
At least 6 more Americans have been murdered by terrorists, this time in India, and not a word here? Did everyone miss this one while at the Thanksgiving dinner table and subsequent football games, or are we becoming complacent as a free people? |
...and the answer is:
b. we are becoming complacent as a free people. I started typing a post in the "Anti-Gun Policies at Work" thread by Joy about how stupid it seems to me that in the face of attacks like this, and with our borders pretty much wide open we are so willing to allow our government to disarm us. But...those of us with brains already know that and the others aren't listening. We could learn valuable lessons from Switzerland. |
Nope. I spent all day in front of the TV with the computer in my lap. Dinner was delivered by fairies at noon.
I saw the articles everywhere and they all read pretty much the same so I started a thread with part of the story that I ony saw once Quote:
The other 2 posts that I added were lost in the reset. One was about 15+ terrorists. I've been trying to find more information on real terrorist numbers but 10 seems to be what they are saying now and that is just BS. I didn't copy the standard info because I thought we all knew it. Joy |
News from Switzerland...
Swiss approve heroin program for addicts <!--subtitle--><!--byline-->By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS Associated Press <!--date-->Updated: 12/01/2008 01:39:45 AM PST <!--secondary date--> <SCRIPT language=JavaScript> var requestedWidth = 0; </SCRIPT> <SCRIPT language=JavaScript> if(requestedWidth > 0){ document.getElementById('articleViewerGroup').styl e.width = requestedWidth + "px"; document.getElementById('articleViewerGroup').styl e.margin = "0px 0px 10px 10px"; } </SCRIPT>GENEVA — The world's most comprehensive legalized heroin program became permanent Sunday with overwhelming approval from Swiss voters who simultaneously rejected the decriminalization of marijuana. The heroin program, started in 1994, is offered in 23 centers across Switzerland. It has helped eliminate scenes of large groups of drug users shooting up openly in parks that marred Swiss cities in the 1980s and '90s and is credited with reducing crime and improving the health and daily lives of addicts. The nearly 1,300 selected addicts, who have not been helped by other therapies, visit one of the centers twice a day to receive the carefully measured dose of heroin produced by a government-approved laboratory. They keep their paraphernalia in cups labeled with their names and use the equipment and clean needles to inject themselves — four at a time — under the supervision of a nurse, and receive counseling from psychiatrists and social workers. The aim is to help the addicts learn how to function in society. The United States and the U.N. narcotics board have criticized the program as potentially fueling drug abuse, but it has attracted attention from governments as far away as Australia and Canada, which in recent years have started or are considering their own programs modeled on the system. The Netherlands started a smaller program in 2006, and it serves nearly 600 patients. Britain has allowed individual doctors to prescribe heroin since the 1920s, but it has been running trials similar to the Swiss approach in recent years. Belgium, Germany, Spain and Canada have been running trial programs too. Sixty-eight percent of the 2.26 million Swiss voters casting ballots approved making the heroin program permanent. By contrast, around 63.2 percent of voters voted against the marijuana proposal. Olivier Borer, 35, a musician from the northern town of Solothurn, said he welcomed the outcome in part because state action was required to help heroin addicts, but he said legalizing marijuana was a bad idea. "I think it's very important to help these people, but not to facilitate the using of drugs," Borer said. "You can just see in the Netherlands how it's going. People just go there to smoke." Sabina Geissbuehler-Strupler of the right-wing Swiss People's Party, which led the campaign against the heroin program, said she was disappointed in the vote. "That is only damage limitation," she said. "Ninety-five percent of the addicts are not healed from the addiction." Health insurance pays for the bulk of the program, which costs 26 million Swiss francs ($22 million) a year. All residents in Switzerland, which has a population of 7.5 million, are required to have health insurance, with the government paying insurance premiums for those who cannot afford it. Parliament approved the heroin measure in a revision of Switzerland's narcotics law in March, but conservatives challenged the decision and forced a national referendum under Switzerland's system of direct democracy. Jo Lang, a Green Party member of parliament from the central city of Zug, said he was disappointed in the failure of the marijuana measure because it means 600,000 people in Switzerland will be treated as criminals because they use cannabis. "People have died from alcohol and heroin, but not from cannabis," Lang said. The government, which opposed the marijuana proposal, said it feared that liberalizing cannabis could cause problems with neighboring countries. On a separate issue, 52 percent of voters approved an initiative to eliminate the statute of limitations on pornographic crimes against children before the age of puberty. The current Swiss statute of limitations on prosecuting pedophile pornography is 15 years. The initiative will result in a change in the constitution to remove that time limit. http://www.montereyherald.com/ci_11111510?source=rss |
It's not even over.
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="96%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#f4faff><TD class=heading_txt height=20>17 more perish in Karachi violence</TD></TR><TR><TD>http://www.patriotfiles.com/forum/imgcache/6960.png</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#efefef>http://www.patriotfiles.com/forum/imgcache/6960.png</TD></TR><TR><TD>http://www.patriotfiles.com/forum/imgcache/6960.png</TD></TR><!-- <tr> <td class="small_txt" height="20">Updated at </td> </tr>--><TR><TD class=small_txt> Tuesday, December 02, 2008 http://www.patriotfiles.com/forum/imgcache/6961.png By Salis bin Perwaiz Karachi: Seventeen people, including a police officer and an MQM activist, were killed in the spate of violence in the city on Monday. Despite orders to ‘shoot on sight’, several shops, stalls, vehicles and godowns were torched in various parts of the city as violence continued for a third straight day. Karachi’s defunct West Zone remains the most troubled area in the city, the DIG of which was transferred on Monday. Moreover, the home minister said that he has now given the shoot-on-sight orders in writing. Intelligence sources said that the city was still in the grip of anti-social elements, but the authorities still had no inkling as to who is behind the recent spate of violence.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=18730 |
FBI begins assessment into Mumbai terror attacks
Agencies Posted: Dec 01, 2008 at 1809 hrs IST <TABLE style="MARGIN-TOP: 12px; FLOAT: left; MARGIN-LEFT: 78px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 5px" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><!-- AddThis Bookmark Button BEGIN --><SCRIPT type=text/javascript>addthis_url = location.href;addthis_title = document.title;addthis_pub = 'meghna';</SCRIPT><SCRIPT src="http://s7.addthis.com/js/addthis_widget.php?v=12" type=text/javascript></SCRIPT><!-- AddThis Bookmark Button END --></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!--bookmark end --> Feedback Discuss <!--rating end -->http://www.patriotfiles.com/forum/imgcache/6962.pngThe seven-member team of the FBI has started its assessment of the Mumbai terror attacks. Mumbai : The seven-member team of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has started its assessment of the Mumbai Terror attacks. The team arrived in the city on Sunday and was in a day-long meeting with the Director General of Police (DGP), Mumbai Commissioner of Police and senior officials from the Crime Branch. The team is in the process of examining evidence and remnants of explosives gathered from the targeted places and the methodology used by the militants, official sources said. FBI would be investigating the case from their side as six American nationals were killed in the attacks. It was not immediately clear whether the FBI has also registered a case in the matter as they had done in the hijacking of Indian airlines' IC-814 plane in 1999 which carried a US national - Jennir Moorie. http://www.indianexpress.com/news/fb...ttacks/392876/ |
U.S. Warned India in October of Potential Terror Attack
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/st...6368013&page=1
U.S. intelligence agencies warned their Indian counterparts in mid-October of a potential attack "from the sea against hotels and business centers in Mumbai," a U.S. intelligence official tells ABCNews.com. A second government source says specific locations, including the Taj hotel, were listed in the U.S. warning. One month later, Nov. 18, Indian intelligence also intercepted a satellite phone call to a number in Pakistan known to be used by a leader of the terror group, Lashkar e Taiba, believed responsible for the weekend attack, Indian intelligence officials say. The Indian intercept also revealed a possible sea-borne attack, the officials say. The chairman of the company that owns the hotel, Ratan Tata, told CNN that security was temporarily increased following a warning. Tata told CNN Sunday that the enhanced measurers were later eased and, in any case, "could not have stopped what took place." Since Friday, U.S. intelligence agencies have been tracking the phones and SIM cards recovered by Indian authorities from the Mumbai terrorists leading to a "treasure trove" of leads in Pakistan and several possible connections to the United States, officials say. Officials say one of the cell phone SIM cards may have been purchased in the United States but would not provide any more details because of the ongoing nature of the investigation. The phones also include the same Thuraya satellite phone intercepted in November by the Indian spy agency RAW, the Research and Analysis Wing, which runs an extensive electronic intercept operation. NSA, the National Security Agency, has the technical means to retrieve all calls made from satellite and cell phones in the south Asia region. Officials say one of the phones recovered was a Thuraya satellite phone. "Once we have the number we will be able to know everyone who was called and where the calls were made from," one former intelligence office says. A US counter-terrorism official says all leads continue to point Lashkar e Taiba, a Kashmir separatist group with strong ties to al Qaeda The group, referred to as LeT in the Indian press, has taken credit for a number of previous terror attacks on India targets, including the Mumbai commuter rail system and the Indian Parliament building. "They share training, weapons and coordinate targets with al Qaeda," says former CIA intelligence officer John Kiriakou, an ABC News consultant. |
Griz,...
I personally wouldn't refer to ALL as: "Complascent Americans".
Relatives & Friends at home & even here on Patfiles.com seem pretty-much disgusted (naturally staunch Dems excluded) with America's despicable: "Business as usual" politics,... EVEN AFTER BEING ATTACKED by ISLAM & WAR BEING DECLARED on America TWICE If there are any Americans whom should actually be called: "Complascent" or gleefully singing; "Happy Days Are Here Again" (amazingly even during wartime),.................... "They" are The U.S. Congress and even the timidly: "Civil" Minority Republicans. And, why not? Wouldn't you too be similarly: "Happier-than-a-pig-in-s--t" if you and yours also had Safe Houses or Bunkers to go to; "When the (Muslim NON-Existent WMDs) s--t hits the fan"? Damn-it-all. Sure hope We Americans remain a both Lucky Nation & God Blessed People?? Current Lame-O American politicians/representatives/rulers/dictators or whatever are mostly all about as reassuring Pied Pipers or Fairytales,...and tragic dark ones to boot. Neil |
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