No, the entire 52D was there and had a few surprises
West of the Mastiff.
Try W.E.B Griffiths/sic/ ' The Aviators. '
Boring, but the beginning is good.
I only heard Rumors of not going in, I know of
none who ever did that. Some of the books that state it
have been found to be by Wannabes....
If you don't want to Fly the Army will put you into maintaining
Air Craft. Failing that you become a Stevedore and came
home very, very wealthy.

Flying is a Volunteer job for Pilots and Crew
they get paid with Lead Coins.


"jwags" wrote in message news:6x0Wa.15726$cF.7395@rwcrnsc53...
> This is exactly why I asked.
> Because I don't know.
> And there was SEVERAL referances in that book saying that they did not
> depend on medivac but instead relied on their own huey crews to evac
> wounded. Several, as in more than two.
> I have been around usenet long enough to know there is always a few people
> in every group that feel the need to jump someones shit over anything they
> feel they can justify.
> If you notice I asked if this was an isloated incident. Implying that I did
> not believe this was true all of the time. But thought perhaps varied with
> who where and when.
> I also was referring to a few other stories I have read online and in some
> books of short stories.
> Relax man....
>
> jeff
>
>
> "John?] "
> wrote in message
> news:300720032031177396%jmerk06@earthlink.net...
> > In article , jwags
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I am taking upon myself to try and learn as much as I can about the
> Vietnam
> > > war. I am 37 and when I was in school they barely brushed on the war.
> Just
> > > to get it out of the way. The only thing I really knew was the image
> that
> > > Hollywood presented.
> > > Which as I am finding out is not only false but very disrespectful and
> > > damaging to everyone that served our country honorably over there.
> > > In the early years as detailed in Moore and Galloways book among a few
> > > other short stories I have read in some compilation books. The medivac
> guys
> > > would not fly into a hot LZ. Instead the guys depended on their slick
> pilots
> > > to fly out wounded when the bullets were still flying.
> > > My question is, did this change as the war went on? Was this an
> isolated
> > > instance of them not flying into a hot LZ? Or was it this way throughout
> > > most of the war? Who made the call if they flew in or not?
> > >
> > > Jeff
> >
> > You seem to have a knack for reading things into a book that simply
> > aren't there. There are two references to MEDEVAC aircraft in the book
> > and neither says that "...the MEDEVAC guys would not fly into a hot
> > LZ". The reason that there is no such statement is that it is simply
> > untrue. Despite the tiny sliver of the total pilot population
> > represented by MEDEVAC pilots, two of the four Medals of Honor awarded
> > to helicopter pilots in Vietnam went to DUSTOFF pilots. Try doing some
> > homework at http://www.dustoff.org--Tell Joe Doc that I sent you.
> > Meanwhile:
> >
> > NOVOSEL, MICHAEL J.
> >
> > Rank and organization: Chief Warrant Officer, U.S. Army, 82d Medical
> > Detachment, 45th Medical Company, 68th Medical Group. Place and date:
> > Kien Tuong Province, Republic of Vietnam, 2 October 1969. Entered
> > service at: Kenner, La. Born: 3 September 1922, Etna, Pa. Citation: For
> > conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action at the risk of his life
> > above and beyond the call of duty. CWO Novosel, 82d Medical Detachment,
> > distinguished himself while serving as commander of a medical
> > evacuation helicopter. He unhesitatingly maneuvered his helicopter into
> > a heavily fortified and defended enemy training area where a group of
> > wounded Vietnamese soldiers were pinned down by a large enemy force.
> > Flying without gunship or other cover and exposed to intense machinegun
> > fire, CWO Novosel was able to locate and rescue a wounded soldier.
> > Since all communications with the beleaguered troops had been lost, he
> > repeatedly circled the battle area, flying at low level under
> > continuous heavy fire, to attract the attention of the scattered
> > friendly troops. This display of courage visibly raised their morale,
> > as they recognized this as a signal to assemble for evacuation. On 6
> > occasions he and his crew were forced out of the battle area by the
> > intense enemy fire, only to circle and return from another direction to
> > land and extract additional troops. Near the end of the mission, a
> > wounded soldier was spotted close to an enemy bunker. Fully realizing
> > that he would attract a hail of enemy fire, CWO Novosel nevertheless
> > attempted the extraction by hovering the helicopter backward. As the
> > man was pulled on aboard, enemy automatic weapons opened fire at close
> > range, damaged the aircraft and wounded CWO Novosel. He momentarily
> > lost control of the aircraft, but quickly recovered and departed under
> > the withering enemy fire. In all, 15 extremely hazardous extractions
> > were performed in order to remove wounded personnel. As a direct result
> > of his selfless conduct, the lives of 29 soldiers were saved. The
> > extraordinary heroism displayed by CWO Novosel was an inspiration to
> > his comrades in arms and reflect great credit on him, his unit, and the
> > U.S. Army.
>
>