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Originally posted by SuperScout .
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Ah Brice, talking to you is such a challenge
"First of all, kindly understand that I have neither applied for nor have any desire to be your role model. As for your cyber-diagnosis of my state of happiness, I suggest that you go peddle your phoniness elsewhere."
Couldn't ask for a better example of your unhappiness, thanks again--as for being my role model, none of my role models have asked for it--they get it if they deserve it. And you sure don't. My role models have to act like gentlemen all the time--Darn it!! Don't worry Brice, If I can't use you as a role model, I'll use you as a bad example
But trying to make people's lives better just comes with the territory of being a liberal dogooder--learn to live with it!! And jus what have you guys got against doing good, anyway? Your record shows it.
"So Bush's and Cheney's driving records of decades ago is supposed to be a disqualifer for high office today? Why didn't you apply the same standard to the porcine poster boy for really bad driving, one that took a life?"
You miss the point AGAIN!!!! Ted Kennedy's driving record has NOTHING TO DO WITH BUSH AND CHENEY'S DRIVING RECORD!!!!!Bush and Cheney got them all by their selves due to hoggish excess of demon rum. Whatever TK did does not give them three freebies on the DUI recoprd, does it?
I don't know why you seem to think that T Kennedy's peccadilloes in any way reflect on Kerry and Edwards--I know you want to think that way but reasonable people don't
Any talk about T Kennedy in a conversatioin about Bush and Cheney's driving records is p[ure unadulterated smoke and mirrrors to hide bush and Cheney's MISERABLE SHAMEFUL driving record--T Kennedy had nothing to do with their getting ARRESTED and CONVICTED fo DRUNKEN DRIVING
And its got a WHOLE lot to do with their fitness to lead--should the helm of the ship of state be held by a drunken driver??? I think not
And as for whether I'd...the porcine...etc, thats another fairly senseless point because Ive never voted for Kennedy and if I did, I'd know that Chappaquiddick would be brought up right away. I think he'd make a better president then Bush though, has a much better military record for instance.
You sure like to bring MJ Kopechne out and flog her whenever you feel like it don't you?? What possible relevance could this have in the 21st Century?? To Bush?? To Kerry?? Only people who like to drive with both hands on the rear view mirror will get the point of that.
"Kerry's treasonous acts of the 70's are certainly more sinister, more telling of his spineless condition, more damaging to veterans than any DUI by anybody, anytime, anywhere"
Even if that is so, it does not excuse your dishonorable and dishonest sliming of his medals.
I'll just put down 2 quotes:
"Dishonorable and dishonestl....they don't know all the facts" John McCain, refferring to the Swiftboat ads
"Sen Kerry can be justifably proud of his military service:
George Bush
Now tell me Brice--who's telling the huge lie here--Bush and McCain?? Or you?? If its Bush, we shouldn't vote for such a huge liar, especially with a drunk driving conviction--and if its you, we'll just shrug it off and say, there he goes again.
I'm just going to stand here and point: What McCain and Bush said
"Kerry lied then, he knew he was lying, and he's still lying today. That's what 254 Swift Boat veterans are saying, along with hundreds of thousands of other Vietnam veterans, myself included"
Well then why would you want to vote for a man who's obviously praising Kerr's records--why do you think Bush is lying?? If thats such an important point, you wouldn't want to vote for a man who thinks Kerry's record is honorable
ALL the people who served with Kerry support his story including the SF guy he fished out of the water. Youre continuous sliming of his mefdals slimes there medals too, doesn't it?? Youre calling them outright liars too, just l;ike youre calling McCain and Bush liars--so youre calling not just5 Kerry, but DOZENS of other Vietnam Vetrans liars. But you like to slime Vietnam Vets that don't agree with you, don't you?? Bush supporters have slimed EVERY Vietnam Vet who stood in their way: Kerry, McCain, Gore, Bob Kerrey--youre good at it and like doing it. Youre not the person I'd pick to judge honesty
Hundreds of thousands of Vietnam Veterans are pointing to Kerry's heroic record, myself included, and I mean THE OFFICIAL RECORD---and voting for him. You say the Offical Record lies?? I might agree with you there but what does that say about the system?
I know of so many cases of officers and NCOs writing up their own citations I can't think of all of them--2 for sure are in Plasters SOG book, one got himself the DSC.
I could give you examples from my own service too. Hre's one: Nobody in my lrrp platoon (E Co 20th Inf (LRP) 4th platoon) got any medals--none-- no meritorious nor V device--except the platoon leader and platoon sgt, both of whom got the Silver Star.
Nobody in my whole Infantry company got a medal in the 6 months I was in it, although Hackworth got 2 Silver Stars, 3 Bronze stars and 11 Airmedals during the 6 months he commanded that battalion. NO grunt ever got an air medal I ever heard of.
If you want to convince me that the awards and decorations system was entirely corrupt, unfair, political and heavily weighted towards officers, you don't have far to go with me--but what does that say about your medals?? You can't see the big picture enough to know youre only sliming yourself
Brice, youre getting the last word here for a while again--I'm heading off for a week, but I'll be back
Excoriate me !! Revile me!!! Think of all the nasty things you can!!Then I'll know for sure youre very unhappy
Have a nice day!!
James