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Old 04-26-2003, 09:48 PM
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"similar thinking authoritarian-hypocrits".

Your comment regarding how to "make ends meet" with the "use" of "War" rather than the programs instituted under FDR's administration is no doubt adding substantial weight to my "arguement(s) that folks of "similar thinking" of your persuasion conclude that is OK for governments to "perform" as did Hitlers during the 1930's and 40's. It "sounds" like you're saying it's OK to have a "preemptive" war if it means that, and I quote you, "and regarding FDR, the truth of the matter is that it wasn't for WWII, a great many Americans would still be planting trees and working on roads, to make ends meet. ", end quote!

Hmmmmmmmm, let's examine what one of this nations greatest military leaders and former republican president Dwight D. Eisenhower had to say about "preventive war", or if you may "preemptive war"----and again I quote.

"All of us have heard this term "preventive war" since the earliest days of Hitler. I recall that is about the first time I heard it. In this day and time....or anytime....I don't believe there is such a thing; and frankly, I wouldn't even listen to anyone seriously that came in and talked about such a thing."
President Dwight Eisenhower, 1953,
upon being presented with plans to wage "preventive" war to disarm Stalins' Soviet Union.

Another great American .........Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson had THIS to say about the "subject"--Again I quote.

"Our position is that whatever grievances a nation may have, however objectionable it finds the status quo, aggressive warfare is an ILLEGAL means for settling those grievances or for altering those conditions."
Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson,
the Chief American prosecutor at the Nuremburg War Crimes trials, in his opening statement to the War Crimes Tribunal.

Sooooooooo.............it appears there are (or have been) several (I can find more if you like---there ARE more that have similar positions) prominent, highly respected, intelligent and patriotic, God fearing Christian, truly American HEROS' that would find disfavor and disagreement with "your" observations and/or "position(s)" regarding "WAR", huh??

You don't suppose they were " asked any questions that they superiorily, all-knowingly and indignantly deem to be repugnant, since counter their Party Line and/or fanatically held cult/religious beliefs.", now do you??? Why of course not----you were too young and unaware of "history" at the time to really understand what they were speaking about so I doubt you would "challenge" their ideas, or ideals, huh?? But now, since you are SO "aware" of history................Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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