TSA Revisited (Jobs)

Some of you guys applied for a job with TSA. Did anyone actually get a job?

In Seattle, I hear there is a huge labor dispute over overtime and other
issues, and even some supervisors have resigned their position. They are
also being investigated for improper or no background investigations. They
also had to let a bunch go after they found out they had undisclosed
records, and even let some go because they hired too many - or rather, the
contractor wasn't making enough money.

It's is very surprising that a lot of veterans and retired veterans applied
but were never hired or called back for an interview. I know age wasn't a
factor as I do know a couple in their late 50's, early 60's that got jobs.

Is this a classic case of discrimination of veterans?? I know Roger Perkins
was concerned as well as a few others.

On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 05:00:27 -0800, "Delta Dog"
wrote:

>Some of you guys (Who?)

>a huge labor dispute (How huge, exactly?)

>some supervisors (Who?)

>They are (Who are "they?")

>They also had to let a bunch go (Who are they and who is the bunch?)

>let some go because (How many is some?)

>a lot of veterans and retired veterans applied (Who are the "lot?")

>Is this a classic case of discrimination of veterans??

No, it's a classic case of either a made-up story or passing on a
rumor. Which is it?

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 08:48:41 -0500, Lee wrote:

>On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 05:00:27 -0800, "Delta Dog"
>wrote:
snipped...
>No, it's a classic case of either a made-up story or passing on a
>rumor. Which is it?
Bullshit. I've heard similar versions from other places in the
country. Additionally, by law, they were supposed to give preference
in hiring retired military (it was written into the bill that way) and
they ignored it.

Delta Dog hit the nail on the head. DO you evidence otherwise??
Regards,

>
>
>

I applied and was summarily turned down of the first go around.
Apparently my top-secret security clearance, aircrew status, computer
science degree and the rest of my resume wasn't good enough for them.
Am I pissed about that?? I used to be - but now I consider it to be a
case of "dodging a bullet".
Regards,

On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 05:00:27 -0800, "Delta Dog"
wrote:

>Some of you guys applied for a job with TSA. Did anyone actually get a job?
>
>In Seattle, I hear there is a huge labor dispute over overtime and other
>issues, and even some supervisors have resigned their position. They are
>also being investigated for improper or no background investigations. They
>also had to let a bunch go after they found out they had undisclosed
>records, and even let some go because they hired too many - or rather, the
>contractor wasn't making enough money.
>
>It's is very surprising that a lot of veterans and retired veterans applied
>but were never hired or called back for an interview. I know age wasn't a
>factor as I do know a couple in their late 50's, early 60's that got jobs.
>
>Is this a classic case of discrimination of veterans?? I know Roger Perkins
>was concerned as well as a few others.
>

I have been through SeaTac in the fall of 2003 and it was awful.

My wife and I fly Space A out of civilian airports such as Atlanta and
SeaTac so we can compare them.

Atlanta has more traffic than SeaTac I think and the place runs much better
than SeaTac. SeaTac had two bottlenecks where movement of PAX slowed down
to a stop.

When they divided up the SeaTac terminal after 9//11 they put the cafes and
restaurants on the secure side which means you can not eat there while you
are out in the general waiting area. In addition the only time you get into
the secure area is when you have been cleared for your flight and you go
directly to the plane. As I recall there were only two places to eat on the
outside and they closed earlier than we expected that night.

The USO at SeaTac is a grade A number one place and if you use SeaTac you
should at least visit and leave a donation.

Atlanta has a very fine USO also and both of these places do a much needed
job so well.

Can someone who has been to SeaTac lately advise whether or not they have
cleared up that bottle neck down at the end of the end of the terminal where
you wait to take off your shoes etc.? What about places to eat, have they
got that cleared up yet?

"Charlie Wolf" wrote in message
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> I applied and was summarily turned down of the first go around.
> Apparently my top-secret security clearance, aircrew status, computer
> science degree and the rest of my resume wasn't good enough for them.
> Am I pissed about that?? I used to be - but now I consider it to be a
> case of "dodging a bullet".
> Regards,
>
It was your psychological profile that did you in.

"Delta Dog" wrote in message
news:c0035b$ebc$0@pita.alt.net...
> Some of you guys applied for a job with TSA. Did anyone actually get a
job?
>

Surely you jest sir! White male retired military vets never stood
a chance. TSA jobs went to niggers & women.

Bob

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 1050 -0600, Charlie Wolf
wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 08:48:41 -0500, Lee wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 05:00:27 -0800, "Delta Dog"
>>wrote:
>snipped...
>>No, it's a classic case of either a made-up story or passing on a
>>rumor. Which is it?
>Bullshit. I've heard similar versions from other places in the
>country. Additionally, by law, they were supposed to give preference
>in hiring retired military (it was written into the bill that way) and
>they ignored it.
>
>Delta Dog hit the nail on the head. DO you evidence otherwise??
>Regards,
>
>>
>>
>>

Bullshit to you, too, Charlie.

You've heard rumors. Where's your evidence? Let's see some verifiable
numbers from a credible source, not "I've heard...".

Not all of us latch onto barracks rumors just because it fits a
certain skewed view of the world.

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 1526 -0500, Lee wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 1050 -0600, Charlie Wolf
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 08:48:41 -0500, Lee wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 05:00:27 -0800, "Delta Dog"
>>>wrote:
>>snipped...
>>>No, it's a classic case of either a made-up story or passing on a
>>>rumor. Which is it?
>>Bullshit. I've heard similar versions from other places in the
>>country. Additionally, by law, they were supposed to give preference
>>in hiring retired military (it was written into the bill that way) and
>>they ignored it.
>>
>>Delta Dog hit the nail on the head. DO you evidence otherwise??
>>Regards,
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>Bullshit to you, too, Charlie.
>
>You've heard rumors. Where's your evidence? Let's see some verifiable
>numbers from a credible source, not "I've heard...".
>
>Not all of us latch onto barracks rumors just because it fits a
>certain skewed view of the world.

Lee, can you imagine this clown as your vets service officer? I mean
really?

"Lee" wrote in message
news:b1u7205ohmbmofuri4u29hb33qbod7p1ih@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 1050 -0600, Charlie Wolf
> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 08:48:41 -0500, Lee wrote:
> >
> >>On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 05:00:27 -0800, "Delta Dog"
> >>wrote:
> >snipped...
> >>No, it's a classic case of either a made-up story or passing on a
> >>rumor. Which is it?
> >Bullshit. I've heard similar versions from other places in the
> >country. Additionally, by law, they were supposed to give preference
> >in hiring retired military (it was written into the bill that way) and
> >they ignored it.
> >
> >Delta Dog hit the nail on the head. DO you evidence otherwise??
> >Regards,
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> Bullshit to you, too, Charlie.
>
> You've heard rumors. Where's your evidence? Let's see some verifiable
> numbers from a credible source, not "I've heard...".
>
> Not all of us latch onto barracks rumors just because it fits a
> certain skewed view of the world.

Lee, what I posted wasn't rumors. Most is verified in the Seattle Times and
PI - http://www.seattlepi.com . There ARE some serious problems with TSA
right now and investigations are getting underway. I personally know of no
retired military that got a job with them. Whenever I pass through an
airport, all I see are young people probably 25 - 35. With myself being 62,
anyone in their 50's is young to me as well.

I THINK the hiring process was given to a contractor who in effect didn't
have to abide by Federal laws regarding the hiring of veterans and disabled
veterans. That's the way they got around it in the hiring process.

Now at Fort Lewis, WA, they privatized their gate guards. They hired over
900 civilians to take over the gates and visitor pass center. This freed up
the military police to do other policing duties. A contractor did the
hiring and from what I can tell, if you were a veteran, or military retiree,
you got the job if you passed the physical. I ran into a fellow that must
have been in his 70's. He told me he was a military retiree and walked
right in and got hired. They all carry 9mm pistols too. Everything is the
same as the military police except for the uniform. It used to be that as
long as the driver of the car was active or retired, the entire vehicle
could pass. Not anymore. You must sign in everyone that doesn't have a
military type ID card now, at Fort Lewis.

Anyway, the issue here is TSA and their hiring process which I understand
sucked, from those that applied. Read the link and you will see that people
were cheated out of overtime pay as well. A key supervisor relinquished his
position pending the outcome of the investigation. This is only Sea-Tac.
You can only wonder what's going on in the other airports. We don't need
pissed off TSA screeners.