Nuclear Blackmail And All That Good Rot

[HARDCORE]

If it isn?t saran nerve gas, it?s deadly biological toxins. If it isn?t biological threats, it?s terrorism by means of blowing up U.S. Assets. And what?s worse of all, is that in many cases, it is working! Sure, our leadership (past and present) bark the bark, but when it comes to laying waste, those who would not hesitate to murder Americans, they weasel out into a Ferryboat Diplomacy! (opinion) ?Don?t you think that the insane elements of the world have caught on to this fact by now!??

Harry Truman not only declared that the "Buck Stops Here?, he also proclaimed that the (BIG-A) bomb starts here! The United States is being bullied by international punks who if push came to shove, could be obliterated in a heartbeat! Sure, sure, I know the drill! I mean what the hell is a mere Marine Barracks in Beirut, the U.S.S. Cole, or the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, not to mention the fact that had a few brave Americans not have rushed the terrorist hijackers over Pennsylvania, the White House too, might have now been toast! So what in the hell is it going to take to turn out the lights on these ?Terrorist Mice That Roared? - a few hundred thousand more American lives perhaps? Every time that some international bastard gets away with an attack against our assets, another would be despot grows a pair of balls!

Take today?s news alone:

1 - North Korea again works on Nuclear Reactor and mounts heavy rhetorical attack against U.S. while issuing a fiery warning against our country if we do not continue to give them free handouts. Is this (US) the same government that touts conservatism at home while liberally supporting half the world?

2 - The GAO says states, localities need help in terrorism fight! Hell, why not fight fire with fire!! Nuke all terrorist sponsoring nations and hang all terrorists on sight. A crime without punishment will be repeated, just like the Barbary Pirates of old proved until we chained their worthless asses to our anchor chains!

3 - A top al-Qaeda operative, the mastermind of the 2000 attacks against then U.S.S. Cole, was planning terrorist attacks in the Arab Emirates against other U.S. and Allied targets, long before the Cole attack!

4 - Americans in East Africa are being warned of terrorist attacks against them in that region. Apparently, these maniacs are targeting and declaring war against the entire world!

5 - Israeli troops leave, but Bethlehem still in despair. Little hope seen for new year. Isn?t it apparent by now that it is not just the Jews that are under attack here, but rather the entire world by a faction that seeks to impose a twenty-first century inquisition that stretches from pole to pole! One in which there will be no neutrals, save for the "Kofi-Clutch" (UN)!

6 - Riots rack Guatemala and oil prices will again cripple parts of our fuel supply as South American crude producers threaten us economically!

7 - Now here is one for you, the Malawi Government (South East Africa) has launched a campaign to squash vampire fears among villagers. As a matter of fact, last week alone, crazed villagers beat a man to death on the charge that he was emulating old ?Count Vlad (Dracula). Hell, why not just send this backwater haven of superstition a few million gallons of Red Port, laced with Iron and bat piss, that should quench their thirst!

8 - And last but not least, a New York cop who was suspended for 30 days for refusing to arrest a homeless man found sleeping in a garage, was shown that some of the poor of the Big Apple contain far more compassion and humanity than many of the filthy rich! Friends (and strangers alike) came to the assistance of this suspended cop refused to roust that poor human being from the only shelter that he could find to save his life, poured their every last dime together ($3000) to assist this generous cop and his family and help them to make it through the holiday season during his suspension!!!!

If you recall my last tirade about American men, women and children going hungry and freezing (some to death) in plain sight of the White House some years back, it kind of tells you something about some people, doesn?t it? But not to worry Mr. Bush, these very same hungry and cold Americans will still fight your wars against those who threaten the ?Flow Of The Dough? to your overly affluent buddies! Hell, the veteran himself (in many, many cases) can?t even finish a distant second to your ?Bureaucratic Bros? when it comes to getting earned benefits!? (opinion)

?Shame on you man, we had expected better things from you!? This is not a party issue, but rather one of humanity and Americanism!?

VERITAS

[catman]

Is this turning into a political form?

[blues clues]

Not sure about the political form part but what he said is true, it's a sad thing when the government can't or wont take care of it's veterans many of who is homeless don't get me started peace to all my bothers out there.
razz

[catman]

If you follow veteran history, the first vets to camp outside the White House were vets from WWI, during the late 1920's, many stayed and there have been vets there every since. All I am saying is don't run down the current chair holder for a problem that has been there for around seventy plus years.

I do agree that it is a problem and needs to be addressed. I myself, fought for almost 5 years before I was ever granted the benefits that I earned from my service. All I am saying is it has been a problem for many, many years, it was not created overnight and more than likely will not be cured overnight.

I simply do not agree with the way he blames the current administration for the problem. However, I would like to see the issue addressed.

[blues clues]

Cat when I say government I'm lumping all together not just this one but all past and preasent all are the same GIVE ME YOUR VOTE and I'LL do something for you but when it comes down to brass tax's be sure to ask for a kiss don't mind getting F**KED just wish someone would give me a kiss.
razz

[reconeil]

Regarding: "I simply do not agree with the way he blames the current administration....." for the current North Korean muscle-flexing, history also pretty-much goes along with your disagreeing, Cat.

In 1994 the great American Defense oriented Clinton Administration made an agreement with our honorable North Korean enemies (involving major U.S. Taxpayer monies), in that if they got off of their nuclear prolification kick we would help feed their poor starving folks with massive U.S. Aid. Hell, only self/clique-serving politicos would even propose such a naive nonsense.

Then, and if such initial stupidity wasn't bad enough, same Administration turned-a-blind-eye to an obviously serious infraction to The Agreement. On or about 1997-98 satelite photos proving that the North Koreans were secretly building a massive undergroung nuclear facility,...were merely shoved under the rug, since The Clinton Administration didn't want to look foolish (or rightfully much worse).

So, I guess that the-bottom-lline-is, in that if you have pathological liars dealing with other pathological liars everything is A-OK,...and America ACTUALLY has nothing to worry about?
Besides, I'm fairly sure if Clinton, America's Greatest Statesman (LATELY) calls-up his North Korean counterpart,...everthing will work out fine. We just give "Them" more money, and "They" will be our friends again.

Neil

[blues clues]

Neil do you think just swtanding around for a year or more is good if you going to place the blame at least be kind enough to spread it around, anyway Clinton isn't in office hasn't been in almost two years.
razz

[HARDCORE]

My rhetoric was not aimed at any particular (Dis) Organized political party, but rather at the system that did, has, and continues to tolerate piss-ant international entities that would try to knock us off in a heartbeat! Take our money and other sundry aid they will, like most part time friends, but ?When the well runs dry, the projectiles fly!?

You may recall that back in mid twentieth century, we were not that far removed from the "Victory of Victories" (WWII), yet a Commie Upstart (North Korea) didn't hesitate for a moment to test our metal! But as far as this being a partisan political attack, like hell says I! Both parties have closed their eyes to what they don't want to see, hoping (like the ostrich) that it will just go away! (IT WON'T!!)

I am happy that after five years, Catman was able to attain the benefits that he fought for, but I have been seeking same for over 14 years, and I consider myself lucky as many an honorably discharged vet has been at it for a score of years or better, hurting every step of the way! My fight is not for me alone, but rather for every veteran who is being lambasted by a system that so quickly forgets! That system, the people's system, has to first realize that a problem exists before it can be addressed! And with war looming on the immediate horizon again, how often in the (not so distant) future will what I said be echoed anew by
Americans, many of whom are now but mere kids!

As for the "Political Forum" scenario, wars are started by political concerns, and they in turn create soldiers, and these translate into veterans and casualties (unfortunately). Yes, in my opinion, they are all inter-related, as one inevitably leads to the other. It is the nature of the beast! (Human Intercourse)

Is not a patriot, by definition, "ONE WHO LOVES HIS COUNTRY AND ZEALOUSLY GUARDS IT'S WELFARE?" And what again was the handle of this site, Patriots Files perhaps? ?Remember, in a democracy, silence is never golden?, for if it were, this site could not exist!

And no again, this is not an attack against any particular political party, nor is it meant to initiate political paranoia. I will always praise the man (or woman) regardless of party, whom I feel is out for America (and her allies) First! And this with no thought of personal or (collective) political gain. After any election, we all remain ?Americans? and that is the quintessential title by which we have survived for over two centuries. ?Not Republican, Democrat, Whig, or even Bull Moose!?

Also, how many ?TRUE? international friends do you reckon we would possess were it not for massive foreign aid? Granted, we will always have those (friends) who would stick by us through thick and thin, as we have done with them. But political/financial blackmail (no matter who orchestrates the protection racket), is still just that!!!!

As for our deserving, and I do mean "DESERVING" veterans, your damned right I'll stand by them shoulder to shoulder, no matter who or what I have to do battle with. And yes again, I am aware of the several "Bonus Marches" that took place! The one in the 1930s in which unemployed workers (many of them hurting veterans) conducted hunger marches and demonstrations in many cities around our great nation! I also recall reading about the most famous of these marches, in which a "Bonus Expeditionary Force" - An ARMY OF WORLD WAR I VETERANS, all in possession (The Bonus Law of 1924) of a certificate of bonus payable in 1945, but with hard times afoot back then and whole families starving, the veterans wanted the bonus payable immediately!

In June of 1932, about 15000 of these World War I veterans, from many different states, peacefully marched upon DC to bring pressure upon the Senate to pass this bonus payment bill immediately - A Bill that had already been approved by the House! Although many in the Senate may have also been veterans, I seriously doubt if any of them were hungry or homeless as were those marching out in the streets, and they (Senate) in turn, defeated this meager stipend for these WWI vets!

The end result, after the Senate refused to go along with the House in paying some honor to these veterans, was that President Herbert (depression) Hoover sent in troops to drive the veterans out of Washington! The same veterans who just a few short years earlier had defended those who now sought to bury the issue, along with a few of those who utilized their lawful right to protest! Could a similar scenario ever again occur, you can bet your ass on it, just ask Frank Olson or Secretary Forestall, both convenient suicides who spoke their minds!!

Remember this, ?in a democracy, silence is not golden?, but can indeed often prove fatal to liberty and the First Amendment, not to mention one?s own ass!

"It is not un-American to speak one's mind, and to protest a perceived ill, but rather not to exercise that right is as un-American as it gets!" The meek may indeed inherit the world, but they will never retain liberty! And only in an oligarchy is it a crime to harbor different views, and we as a nation were not founded upon the demands, dictates, or viewpoints of the one!

You brought up some damned good points. however, and I will continue to ponder them in depth!

VERITAS

[reconeil]

The extreme harm to our National Security and any semblance of World Peace has already been done by: "Old Slick" and cronies. Plus, being apolitical and thus making me sensibly-patriotic and pragmatic (more so like many Conservatives/Republicans are),...I see no point spreading blame around, in that other administrations have also been stupidly-naive regarding National Security, at times. Then was then, and now is now. Plus, not being a Democrat/Liberal,...that's not how I normally justify or rationalize things. Never got sucked-in to that herd-like mentality bit.

Also, I'm no self/clique-serving (apologizing for ineptness also) politico. Regardless, and whatever I am, I most certainly don't have to be politically-correct. To me, a bum is a bum, is a bum.
To me it doesn't matter one iota, in that so many Americans apparently and religiously venerate and adore same: "Bum",...and God only knows why.

Besides, I honestly believe that blaming The Bush Administration for all the deadly problems now confronting America is utter nonsense,...since everyone knows (if honest) that it was the previous politicos' 8 year naivete' and agency sabotagings that greatly helped get us into such a devastating predicament.

Then too there's that good old Clinton pride at cutting 250,000 Government Jobs BULL. Sure, it was never made common knowledge for The Public by The Press/Media. But, the truth of the matter is that The Quarter Million Jobs cut to streamline our over-bloated governance...CAME FROM THE MILITARY, and beaurocracies grew like they always do (if not more?).

So Razz, and to sort-of go along with your. "Spreading blame around, I'll admit that regarding our enemies, Clinton was just as inept as Carter. Though, and in fairness to Carter, at least that President had class. Plus, President Carter wasn't A WORKING HOURS deviant. "He" only lusted in his heart.

Neil

[blues clues]

It happened again I told myself that I was going to get bitted into the pro/com of this kind of fight but I did I live but I don't learn.
razz