Tred Softly & Carefully Along Yon Border!

[HARDCORE]

Can you hear the caterwauling and screaming right there from your old easy chair?

First came Homeland Security, and now, the use of the "Regular Military Machine on U.S. Soil" as well is being tossed around by the Pentagon, and who in the Hell knows who else?

Is it a good idea to advocate using our military in such a fashion? Just as long, says I, as it does not expand to include United Nations Troops being stationed upon our sovereign soil!

Also, the use of the regular military is being touted as essential as a backup to National Guard Units and local law enforcement (Border Patrol included I suppose)? And hopefully, these anticipated emergencies will, not someday escalate into yet another Kent State, Watts and East LA, or a Gestapo-like presence on Main Street USA!?

But look at the bright side of this issue! Vicente Fox and his territorial ambitions (opinion) will be somewhat watered down (Maybe), illegal activity along the borders should be lessoned (again maybe), and the shortages of manpower that presently exist among border enforcement agencies, should instead, result in a glut!

Of course, if you expect the proverbial bleeding hearts and Senor Fox to be pleased - you had better think again! And El Presidente Fox had better damned well realize that this ain't Columbus, New Mexico, he ain't Pancho Villa, and it definitely ain't 1916!

To get the whole story, go to -

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...6homeland.html

[Seascamp]

Over the last months we have seen the southern border issue at least get on the politico?s topic agenda and not avoided like stink gas in a phone booth. But I still find it amazing that politicos from the States that are being financially slam-dunked the worst are fighting hammer and tongs against any form of border controls. A paradox it would seem but maybe not when there is the need to scrounge up names, any name will do, to ram into the vote registry. The military manning the border now seems to be a viable option but I wonder how long it will take for ?Poncho? Fox to start using his pistalaros and bandito Federalies to start poking, prodding, shootin and raising hell in protest. Not long I suspect and border towns like Laredo will get a whole new look about them.

Meanwhile, our northern neighbors seem to be getting a wake up call, at least the wiser ones, and all of a sudden find that they have a fledgling and ever growing terrorist safe haven on their hands. And according to their own internal security organizations, they are rapidly becoming a center for global terrorist?s organizations. Vancouver B.C. has been noted as the most prolific is spawning the greatest number of new headquarters. Hamas, Al Qaeda, etc., over fifty organizations in all, are all setting up shop there. Thus far the contest between the need for internal security and the need for the politicos to slam dunk the vote registry with names, any name will do, has been joined. But to date the politicos are winning that one, hands down, and wiser minds are being hooted out of Ottawa, big time. Heads up Pacific Northwest.

So it would seem that we have a choice of dying of pneumonia or diphtheria or recognizing the ever growing border threats and making a plan to have a plan. Tough times ahead and a new paradigm I?m thinking. Either that or do our usual nothing, nothing, argue, do nothing, nothing and hope for the best. Do ya ever get the feeling yer an expendable chip in a game where the cards are dealt to others and ya can?t win, quit or breakeven? Yikes, my brain itches where I can?t scratch. :cd:

Scamp

[David]

Watched a show last night on PBS called "Do you speak American?" They brought to light an interesting quote from Vicente Fox, Mexico's President. He recently said that there was a "silent revolution" going on in the United States and it was the "patriotic duty" of Mexicans to immigrate illegally to the United States to raise their numbers for the political and social takeover they have been working on for years.

They also mentioned El Cenizo, a border town in Texas. In case you have not heard this already, this city (on our side of the border) has now made Spanish their official language. They also passed a law prohibiting town officials from cooperating with any type of U.S. Border Agents.

Regarding Canada, it was reported today that at least 50 known terrorist groups operate freely from within their borders.

If the average citizen of the United States does not stand up to this onslaught of invasion and terrorism brewing we are going to find ourselves in much deeper crap then we can imagine, much sooner then we think....

[Seascamp]

So, do we watch to the north or south or both? It would be very prudent to keep an eye on who is dog and who is tail in the north. Security services, the RCMP and the military are being run on the extreme cheep and are just sort of bumping along like a legless frog. Witness the recent episodes where RCMP rookies are sent into exceptionally dangerous situations without a weapon or backup. Predictable results; dead before two weeks RCMP service completed. Sad stuff, huh. Organized terror groups will have them up the tree and hollering uncle and then what? But the prevailing Ottawa wisdom seems to be that if they are tolerant towards the terror groups, they will be left alone to point to the south. Sooner or later, we'll see about all that I suppose.

Scamp

[HARDCORE]

SCAMP, DAVE, et al:

So there you have it - a giant crap sandwich with us as the filling. "Mexico to the south, and Canada in the north!" Two so-called friendlies with designs upon land, populations, and/or political influence within the States!

Ordinarily, this would pose no problem. We just tie a can to their tail, and kick their asses to the north and/or south. Apparently however, there is far more here than meets us commoner's eyes? And apparently, both borders bare watching!

When we finally do arise anew, like the legendary Phoenix, from the ashes of a politically spawned apathy, what will we find? A Canadian empire that stretches southward to the Oregon border and clean across the (once) United States to New York City? And maybe a Mexico that, like the tentacles of an octopus, reaches deeply into the American heartland?

Can't happen says you - well that is what Europe said back in the late 1930s!! And even if the demands do not reach into the soil of our Forefathers, the influence of these foreign enclaves just may? "SO MUCH FOR THIS FREAKING OPEN BORDER POLICY!"

Never, I repeat "NEVER", has any foreign nation (or nations) succeeded in their demands that we cow tow and knuckle under to their agenda or internal interference. This in itself, is contrary to the Monroe Doctrine. And when elements of our own government insist that all is well, and that it is OK for these foreign nations to probe our borders and dictate to our elected officials, then I ask you- "What is wrong with this picture?"

Worse yet is when (SO-CALLED) American citizens push, demonstrate, and demand that we open our borders without reservation to a limitless deluge of foreign nationals, and this just because their ancestry is from that foreign nation! If these (so-called) Americans still hold loyalties to these alien nations, then that (not here) is where they belong!!

The United States is not a way station for terrorist, malcontents, freeloaders, or pre-invasion forces from other countries. The problem is that - far too many in politics are determined to remain politically correct, and not patriotically correct!

Like the man slowly sinking in quicksand, as long as his nose remains above the water level, he continues to worry not! Problem is - we may already be immersed up to our eyebrows, and unless we have whale in our ancestry, our noses are not on top of our heads!

VERITAS

[Seascamp]

I wouldn?t worry about Canada having any grand designs on US real estate. The bigger issue up there is how they are going to hold the place in one piece. Lots of unhappy campers pulling in different directions and if Quebec blows out, Alberta will be looking for other new/different options as well and some other Provinces are getting the serious bitchy-grumbles as things press on.
It is not inconceivable that there could be three or more new Countries up yonner. Kind of like pool balls all racked up just waiting for the break shot. The Quebec separatists have 50 plus seats in Parliament and one might say they have the ruling minority federal Liberals by the nads and have them doing the ouch, ouch dance real fast, real fast. :ek:

Scamp