The coming deja vu

[SuperScout]

Every so often, a public figure will speak a sentence that succinctly sums up his or her entire worldview in just a few words, exposing the core belief that is the wellspring of his or her every position on matters of consequence. Consider, for instance, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi?s recent assertion: "If we [the U.S. military] leave Iraq, then the insurgents will leave Iraq, the terrorists will leave Iraq."

That sentence tells us virtually everything we really need to know about the workings of Nancy Pelosi?s mind. Though some may sneer at what they perceive to be an example of politically motivated hyperbole calculated to further discredit President Bush?s Iraq policy, Pelosi, indisputably an intelligent woman, was being quite serious; she believed and meant every word she said.

So dearly held is Pelosi?s conviction that America ? rather than the Islamist impulse for conquest and plunder ? is the major cause of terrorism in Iraq today, that it is impervious to the lessons of history which contradict it. We have been down this road before. In the 1970s, for example, American leftists similarly believed that the military conflicts of Southeast Asia were rooted in the "arrogance of American power" rather than in Communist aggression. Their proposed remedy: to stop further U.S. funding aimed at helping the existing governments of Cambodia and Vietnam prevent a Communist takeover. In short: to withdraw American involvement.

During that period, Jane Fonda and her husband Tom Hayden took a camera crew to Hanoi and to the "liberated" regions of South Vietnam to make a propaganda film called Introduction to the Enemy, whose purpose was to persuade viewers that once the American troops were gone, the Communists were going to create an ideal new society based on justice and equality ? not unlike Pelosi?s cheery prediction that the Islamic terrorists now in Iraq will placidly leave the country once they have successfully repelled the American invaders. (Incidentally, who will create Iraq?s ideal new society? Muqtada al-Sadr and his Mahdi army? Mahmoud Ahmedinejad and the Iranian army?) The dual villains of the Southeast Asian conflicts were, in Fonda?s view, "U.S. imperialism" and "a white man's [Nixon?s] racist aggression." Hayden, for his part, organized an "Indo-China Peace Campaign" to lobby Congress to end American aid to the regimes in Cambodia and South Vietnam.

When Republicans warned that a Pol Pot/Khmer Rouge victory would inevitably result in a Cambodian "bloodbath," antiwar Democrats like John Kerry and foreign policy advisor Anthony Lake brushed their concerns aside and accused them of trying to stir up "anti-Communist hysteria." American leftists convinced themselves that Pol Pot was an aspiring liberator of the Cambodian people. In March 1975, Lake reaffirmed the Left's position that the Khmer Rouge was not a totalitarian force, but rather a coalition of "many Khmer nationalists, Communist and non-Communist," whose only ambition was to gain independence for the Cambodian people. (This is reminiscent of filmmaker Michael Moore?s assertion that: "The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not 'insurgents' or 'terrorists' or 'The Enemy.' They are the Revolution, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow ? and they will win.") Lake warned that if America alienated Pol Pot and his followers, it would only "push them further into the arms of their Communist supporters." Calling for "an immediate, peaceful turning over of power" to the Khmer Rouge, Lake backed the American cutoff of support for the Cambodian and South Vietnamese governments.

But today Nancy Pelosi ? the leftist who the media depicts as a ?liberal? ? somehow cannot foresee anything of a similar nature happening in Iraq. In her calculus, ?If the President wants to say the war in Iraq is part of the war on terror, he?s not right?The war on terror is the war in Afganistan? The jihadists in Iraq [will] stay there as long as we?re there. They?re there because we?re there.?

[reconeil]

The Cambodian: "Killing Fields" aside,...WHAT ELSE could any SANE Americans expect from the likes of Pelosi?

Hell, if Such Types actually believe that anything even related to The U.S. Military should be INSULTINGLY & DEMEANINGLY kept out of San Francisco,...it's only natural that Leftist Wartime Underminers demand similarly about keeping The U.S. Military out of Iraq.

Damn,..."America's Finest" might FINALLY (after about 60 years) WIN & ACHIEVE TOTAL VICTORY in Iraq (naturally only if POLITICALLY PERMITTED fighting & killing enemy as in WWII),...and The Pelosies of this world certainly can't have that.

"Chamberlain"-like pandering and capitulating (supporting & encouraging also) TO ALL ENEMIES (even while under attack during wartime), much more the normal & typical style of such Leftist Phonies posing as Representatives.

A truly sad State of Affairs exists for The Good Old USA.

Neil

[Seascamp]

A variation of the thought; ?Be careful what ya ask for? now comes out, ?because now ya got it?, and what we got is the Cambodian template playing out, including some of the same cast of characters.
Pelosi and Co. have been working desperately hard to achieve a totalitarian Islamic terrorist State in Iraq. Now it?s ready to roll-out and none of the principal combatants are going anywhere until the last man standing scenario is complete. Maybe it hasn?t been noticed; on purpose, that the vast amount of butchering has been and will remain a Moslem vs. Moslem. And none of the warring parties are going to give up the chance at grabbing the ?Golden Ring?, plus all warring parties are variations of terrorist State advocacy.
This battle has been going on for 1400 years and the only relative newcomers are the Baathist fascists; Saddam?s outfit, and when the last of the blood is momentarily let, they will have vanished-paybacks are a bitch and the Baathists are at the head of the Holocaust genocide line, followed closely by the Israelis.

Al Qaeda brags of the great election victory in the US and asserts that 12,000 vest bombers are rolling on in and no doubt these will be used against the Baathists, the Shiite Mahdi Militia and the Iraqi population, regardless of Islamic sect. Unfortunately for Pelosi, the part of the Cambodian template that won?t play out is denial, historical revisionism, and the Hollywood/ MSM deception.

This is right in our face and I?m not so sure we have the option menu choices we think we have. The momentum and initiative has been shifted; courtesy the Cambodian scenario repeaters, the window of opportunity slammed shut, and global Islamic Terrorism has been handed a second breath on a golden platter. We have met the hydra and are busily consuming ourselves, as predicted, and not even Pelosi will be able to contain the results of her Liberal ambitions. She grossly underestimates the power of the global Jehadists; possibly on purpose, and they will run her until spent, and then simply bring up a new advocate and repeat as necessary.

Maybe I missed something, but I don?t recall Fonda or Hayden going back to Vietnam or Cambodia and showing us how great it all turned out. They certainly didn?t go to the Cambodian Holocaust museum and justify the eradication of one third of the Cambodian population by the most hideous methods, and then tell them how great it was or assert that the Asian Holocaust never happened. No, Ed Asner has been given the task of fronting that deception, but with his busy schedule and all, hasn?t found the time to go to Cambodia and tell them of the supposedly mythical Asian Holocaust.

Scamp

[SuperScout]

If and when the Muslim 'Holocaust' as you described abouve plays out, and I have no doubt that it will play itself out, the sideline cheerleading crowd of Pelosi and Company, including the Hollywood pseudo-intelligensia, will again be notably absent when the skull inventory starts. And it will be a matter of continuing debate as to which area of the world has the deepest blood pit, Iraq or Israel. What is almost certain will be a final toll that will exceed the excesses of Pol Pot. God help us.

[Packo]

Joan Baez, not big fan here, begged Fonda et al to help her when the "intellectual" cleansing was happening in Cambodia. Fonda et al refused saying that we were out of the war now. It is my understanding that they have not communicated much since. At least she and some of the others saw what was happening but the others turned a blind eye. Same same what will happen here. Baez did try to go to Cambodia but I think she couldn't get in and worked with refugees in Thailand.

Pack

[Seascamp]

The left?s buzz word ?intellectual cleansing? must be the straw man cover for using a lead- filled pipes to indiscriminately and literally beat the brains out of tens of tens of thousands of people, most of whom were horribly disfigured via searing hot tong torture beforehand.
Fonda and her accomplices of the time simply have to be cold, dead, and dark on the inside to midwife that Holocaust and then to go on to jumping jacks videos as if nothing happened plus issue stupid and deceptive murmurings about ?the people won?, yadda-yadda.
But the other news is that the Talibs and Al Qaeda are even more brutal so their enablers will need ever bigger brooms and carpets to keep up with the grotesque 'deja vu now' happinings coming down.

Scamp