How John Kerry Helped Hanoi Jane During JFK's Vietnam War! Kerry Call Viet Vets' "Baby killers" JFK - His Hero - Started The War!

"Lone Haranguer" wrote in message
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> Thom wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:02:46 GMT, Richard Rongstad
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"unknown" the lumpenproletariat tool of the politburo wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>.
> >>>
> >>>Meanwhile Kerry was pissing on his Vietnam buddies while fawning over
> >>>his hero JFK who started the Vietnam War.
> >
> >
> > Nope, big lie just like WOMD. Ike and Nixon started the Viet Nam War
> > in the 50's. I suggest you check your bible and see how naughty you
> > are for lieing.
>
> Advisers were already there under Truman and we were helping the French.
> Dummy.

I wonder if it is prudent to remind everyone about the South East Aisian
Treaty Organization that the US was signatory to. Australia was on it as
well, so was Korea, and many others. You will find that many of us served
side by side regardless of Nationality. SEATO was what got us in there and
that was done under Truman. SEATO was directly equivelant to NATO for the
exact same reasons. SEATO is no more these days. Stalin won that round.

Admin wrote:
>
> "Lone Haranguer" wrote in message
> news:burh8i$ldrev$1@ID-192430.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Thom wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:02:46 GMT, Richard Rongstad
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>"unknown" the lumpenproletariat tool of the politburo wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>>>>.
> > >>>
> > >>>Meanwhile Kerry was pissing on his Vietnam buddies while fawning over
> > >>>his hero JFK who started the Vietnam War.
> > >
> > >
> > > Nope, big lie just like WOMD. Ike and Nixon started the Viet Nam War
> > > in the 50's. I suggest you check your bible and see how naughty you
> > > are for lieing.
> >
> > Advisers were already there under Truman and we were helping the French.
> > Dummy.
>
> I wonder if it is prudent to remind everyone about the South East Aisian
> Treaty Organization that the US was signatory to. Australia was on it as
> well, so was Korea, and many others. You will find that many of us served
> side by side regardless of Nationality. SEATO was what got us in there and
> that was done under Truman. SEATO was directly equivelant to NATO for the
> exact same reasons. SEATO is no more these days. Stalin won that round.


Knowing that the United Nations likes to take credit for management of
all the world's major treaties, I always figured that it was membership
in the U.N. that got the U.S. into Viet Nam by proxy, namely, SEATO.

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 1050 -0700, "Admin" wrote:

>
>"Lone Haranguer" wrote in message
>news:burh8i$ldrev$1@ID-192430.news.uni-berlin.de...
>> Thom wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:02:46 GMT, Richard Rongstad
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>"unknown" the lumpenproletariat tool of the politburo wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>>>>.
>> >>>
>> >>>Meanwhile Kerry was pissing on his Vietnam buddies while fawning over
>> >>>his hero JFK who started the Vietnam War.
>> >
>> >
>> > Nope, big lie just like WOMD. Ike and Nixon started the Viet Nam War
>> > in the 50's. I suggest you check your bible and see how naughty you
>> > are for lieing.
>>
>> Advisers were already there under Truman and we were helping the French.
>> Dummy.
>
>I wonder if it is prudent to remind everyone about the South East Aisian
>Treaty Organization that the US was signatory to. Australia was on it as
>well, so was Korea, and many others. You will find that many of us served
>side by side regardless of Nationality. SEATO was what got us in there and
>that was done under Truman. SEATO was directly equivelant to NATO for the
>exact same reasons. SEATO is no more these days. Stalin won that round.

few people relaize that there were 26 countries with troops of one
kind or anotherin Viet Nam including Canadians by the way.

I do agree with your point about truman but you can go back even
further to the OSS during WW2. In this discussion you have to find a
central flash point that started the shooting and that was OCT 1955
when we refused to live up to our promises for an election. I do
conceed there are other flash points but this was the big one that did
it.

RE: SEATO, probably ANSUS replaced it.

THOM
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>
>

"Admin" wrote in message
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> "Lone Haranguer" wrote in message
> news:burh8i$ldrev$1@ID-192430.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Thom wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:02:46 GMT, Richard Rongstad
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>"unknown" the lumpenproletariat tool of the politburo wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>>>>.
> > >>>
> > >>>Meanwhile Kerry was pissing on his Vietnam buddies while fawning over
> > >>>his hero JFK who started the Vietnam War.
> > >
> > >
> > > Nope, big lie just like WOMD. Ike and Nixon started the Viet Nam War
> > > in the 50's. I suggest you check your bible and see how naughty you
> > > are for lieing.
> >
> > Advisers were already there under Truman and we were helping the French.
> > Dummy.
>
> I wonder if it is prudent to remind everyone about the South East Aisian
> Treaty Organization that the US was signatory to. Australia was on it as
> well, so was Korea, and many others. You will find that many of us served
> side by side regardless of Nationality. SEATO was what got us in there
and
> that was done under Truman. SEATO was directly equivelant to NATO for the
> exact same reasons. SEATO is no more these days. Stalin won that round.

The SEATO treaty was signed in the summer of 1954, more than a year and a
half after Truman left office. It was created by the State Department under
Secretary John Foster Dulles.

SEATO was not "directly equivalent to NATO." NATO included automatic
trip-wire clauses that guaranteed that the signatories would go to war if
any of the signatories were attacked. SEATO lacked such language.

Stalin? Stalin died in 1953. I doubt that he had a hand in the game.

ted

"Ted Gittinger" wrote in message
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> "Admin" wrote in message
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> >
> > "Lone Haranguer" wrote in message
> > news:burh8i$ldrev$1@ID-192430.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Thom wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:02:46 GMT, Richard Rongstad
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>"unknown" the lumpenproletariat tool of the politburo wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>>>>.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Meanwhile Kerry was pissing on his Vietnam buddies while fawning
over
> > > >>>his hero JFK who started the Vietnam War.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nope, big lie just like WOMD. Ike and Nixon started the Viet Nam
War
> > > > in the 50's. I suggest you check your bible and see how naughty you
> > > > are for lieing.
> > >
> > > Advisers were already there under Truman and we were helping the
French.
> > > Dummy.
> >
> > I wonder if it is prudent to remind everyone about the South East Aisian
> > Treaty Organization that the US was signatory to. Australia was on it
as
> > well, so was Korea, and many others. You will find that many of us
served
> > side by side regardless of Nationality. SEATO was what got us in there
> and
> > that was done under Truman. SEATO was directly equivelant to NATO for
the
> > exact same reasons. SEATO is no more these days. Stalin won that
round.
>
> The SEATO treaty was signed in the summer of 1954, more than a year and a
> half after Truman left office. It was created by the State Department
under
> Secretary John Foster Dulles.

It was in the works right after WWII and was "Signed" in 1954.


>
> SEATO was not "directly equivalent to NATO." NATO included automatic
> trip-wire clauses that guaranteed that the signatories would go to war if
> any of the signatories were attacked. SEATO lacked such language.

YEs, it did lack the language. But it was what originally got the US to
start sending "Advisors".


>
> Stalin? Stalin died in 1953. I doubt that he had a hand in the game.

The Government of the USSR was actually Stalin/Lenin/Marx Communism. And it
stayed that way until the fall.

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:09:15 GMT, "Ted Gittinger"
wrote:

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>"Admin" wrote in message
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>>
>> "Lone Haranguer" wrote in message
>> news:burh8i$ldrev$1@ID-192430.news.uni-berlin.de...
>> > Thom wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:02:46 GMT, Richard Rongstad
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>"unknown" the lumpenproletariat tool of the politburo wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>>>>>.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>Meanwhile Kerry was pissing on his Vietnam buddies while fawning over
>> > >>>his hero JFK who started the Vietnam War.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Nope, big lie just like WOMD. Ike and Nixon started the Viet Nam War
>> > > in the 50's. I suggest you check your bible and see how naughty you
>> > > are for lieing.
>> >
>> > Advisers were already there under Truman and we were helping the French.
>> > Dummy.
>>
>> I wonder if it is prudent to remind everyone about the South East Aisian
>> Treaty Organization that the US was signatory to. Australia was on it as
>> well, so was Korea, and many others. You will find that many of us served
>> side by side regardless of Nationality. SEATO was what got us in there
>and
>> that was done under Truman. SEATO was directly equivelant to NATO for the
>> exact same reasons. SEATO is no more these days. Stalin won that round.
>
>The SEATO treaty was signed in the summer of 1954, more than a year and a
>half after Truman left office. It was created by the State Department under
>Secretary John Foster Dulles.
>
>SEATO was not "directly equivalent to NATO." NATO included automatic
>trip-wire clauses that guaranteed that the signatories would go to war if
>any of the signatories were attacked. SEATO lacked such language.
>
>Stalin? Stalin died in 1953. I doubt that he had a hand in the game.

shouldn't have said that. The republicans still think he'se hiding
under their beds.

THOM
>
>ted
>
>

Thom wrote:
>
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:09:15 GMT, "Ted Gittinger"
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Admin" wrote in message
> >news:1012mk9kd42gr25@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >> "Lone Haranguer" wrote in message
> >> news:burh8i$ldrev$1@ID-192430.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >> > Thom wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:02:46 GMT, Richard Rongstad
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >>"unknown" the lumpenproletariat tool of the politburo wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>>>>>.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>Meanwhile Kerry was pissing on his Vietnam buddies while fawning over
> >> > >>>his hero JFK who started the Vietnam War.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Nope, big lie just like WOMD. Ike and Nixon started the Viet Nam War
> >> > > in the 50's. I suggest you check your bible and see how naughty you
> >> > > are for lieing.
> >> >
> >> > Advisers were already there under Truman and we were helping the French.
> >> > Dummy.
> >>
> >> I wonder if it is prudent to remind everyone about the South East Aisian
> >> Treaty Organization that the US was signatory to. Australia was on it as
> >> well, so was Korea, and many others. You will find that many of us served
> >> side by side regardless of Nationality. SEATO was what got us in there
> >and
> >> that was done under Truman. SEATO was directly equivelant to NATO for the
> >> exact same reasons. SEATO is no more these days. Stalin won that round.
> >
> >The SEATO treaty was signed in the summer of 1954, more than a year and a
> >half after Truman left office. It was created by the State Department under
> >Secretary John Foster Dulles.
> >
> >SEATO was not "directly equivalent to NATO." NATO included automatic
> >trip-wire clauses that guaranteed that the signatories would go to war if
> >any of the signatories were attacked. SEATO lacked such language.
> >
> >Stalin? Stalin died in 1953. I doubt that he had a hand in the game.
>
> shouldn't have said that. The republicans still think he'se hiding
> under their beds.

You forgot to mention Thom, that Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Lenin
have taken up residence in the closets of Democratic Party
members.


> THOM
> >
> >ted
> >
> >