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Old 11-04-2003, 01:16 PM
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Should Military Service be a Presidential Prerequisite?

(EXCERPT) By Doug Patton November 3, 2003

Must a candidate for President of the United States have active duty
military experience, preferably in combat, in order to be a qualified
commander-in-chief?

That argument is being floated by Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, who
is struggling to find a way to stop the juggernaut of his fellow
liberal New Englander, former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, in their race
for the White House.

Of the nine Democrats now actively seeking the presidency, only Kerry
and retired Gen. Wesley Clark have served in the military - Kerry in
the Navy and Clark in the Army. Both are decorated veterans of the
Vietnam War; both genuine heroes wounded in battle in the only war the
United States ever lost.

During a recent debate, Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman took Kerry to
task for voting for the war, then flip-flopping by vowing to vote
against the financial support needed to support the troops in the
field. Kerry's response was a condescending one: "Well, Joe, I have
seared into me experiences that you don't have...that of being one of
those troops on the front lines."

Clark's meteoric rise in the polls, followed immediately by his
inability to define himself to a very left-leaning co...

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Old 11-04-2003, 06:11 PM
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In article , Otis Willie says...
>
>Of the nine Democrats now actively seeking the presidency, only Kerry
>and retired Gen. Wesley Clark have served in the military - Kerry in
>the Navy and Clark in the Army. Both are decorated veterans of the
>Vietnam War; both genuine heroes wounded in battle in the only war the
>United States ever lost.


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Old 11-05-2003, 05:44 AM
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If these were the rules, we would have excluded Thomas Jefferson, John
Adams, Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D Roosevelt, and several
less notable presidents from the job. But then, of course, what's quality
when militarism is the requirement?

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> Should Military Service be a Presidential Prerequisite?
>
> (EXCERPT) By Doug Patton November 3, 2003
>
> Must a candidate for President of the United States have active duty
> military experience, preferably in combat, in order to be a qualified
> commander-in-chief?
>
> That argument is being floated by Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, who
> is struggling to find a way to stop the juggernaut of his fellow
> liberal New Englander, former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, in their race
> for the White House.
>
> Of the nine Democrats now actively seeking the presidency, only Kerry
> and retired Gen. Wesley Clark have served in the military - Kerry in
> the Navy and Clark in the Army. Both are decorated veterans of the
> Vietnam War; both genuine heroes wounded in battle in the only war the
> United States ever lost.
>
> During a recent debate, Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman took Kerry to
> task for voting for the war, then flip-flopping by vowing to vote
> against the financial support needed to support the troops in the
> field. Kerry's response was a condescending one: "Well, Joe, I have
> seared into me experiences that you don't have...that of being one of
> those troops on the front lines."
>
> Clark's meteoric rise in the polls, followed immediately by his
> inability to define himself to a very left-leaning co...
>
> U.S. and friendly nation laws prohibit fully reproducing
> copyrighted material. In abidance with our laws this report
> cannot be provided in its entirety. However, you can read it
> in full today, 04 Nov 2003, at the following URL. (COMBINE
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> subject/content of this report is not necessarily the
> viewpoint of the distributing Library. This report is provided
> for your information and discussion.
>
> http://gopusa.com/dougpatton/dp_1103.shtml
>
> ---------------------------
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> The American War Library
> http://www.americanwarlibrary.com



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Old 11-05-2003, 08:30 AM
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meport squatted and peed the following:

> If these were the rules, we would have excluded Thomas Jefferson, John
> Adams, Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D Roosevelt, and
> several less notable presidents from the job. But then, of course,
> what's quality when militarism is the requirement?


Careful there jon-boy. The originator of the idea was one of your
liberals. You know, John Kerry of the bad hairdo.

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Old 11-05-2003, 09:03 AM
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 1626 GMT, "Sockless Sock"
wrote:

>meport squatted and peed the following:
>
>> If these were the rules, we would have excluded Thomas Jefferson, John
>> Adams, Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D Roosevelt, and
>> several less notable presidents from the job. But then, of course,
>> what's quality when militarism is the requirement?

>
>Careful there jon-boy. The originator of the idea was one of your
>liberals. You know, John Kerry of the bad hairdo.
>
>--
>TTFN

I would be against the requirement. You have to look at the whole
package when choosing a candidate. Service to one's country might be
a good qualification. I would also like to mention that there will
never be anyone who can meet all of our expectations. These are human
beings, who just like each of us, have faults.
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Old 11-05-2003, 04:13 PM
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"Sockless Sock" wrote in message
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> meport squatted and peed the following:
>
> > If these were the rules, we would have excluded Thomas Jefferson, John
> > Adams, Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D Roosevelt, and
> > several less notable presidents from the job. But then, of course,
> > what's quality when militarism is the requirement?

>
> Careful there jon-boy. The originator of the idea was one of your
> liberals. You know, John Kerry of the bad hairdo.


John-boy never heard of the Blackhawk War, in which Abe Lincoln saw service.
Ah well, he is only 20% wrong this time, which is an all-time high for him.

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Old 11-05-2003, 08:02 PM
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Check up on Lincoln, he was in the Militia and
I believe up on Court Martial charges.

See what a Canadian, Pierre Burton has to say on
this.
Check up on any Roman Senator. Look at Greece,
the people who started Democracy.
Jefferson went broke funding the War, Roosevelt ?
Who would push his wheelchair to a Battle line.
Some Pesidents had no War to be in.


"meport" wrote in message news:l97qb.10126$9M3.3340@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> If these were the rules, we would have excluded Thomas Jefferson, John
> Adams, Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin D Roosevelt, and several
> less notable presidents from the job. But then, of course, what's quality
> when militarism is the requirement?
>
> --
> If you get what you want, what's to stop you
> from asking for more?
>
> "Otis Willie" wrote in message
> newsm5gqvc36889bo6969kakhqj47irtiq7en@4ax.com...
> > Should Military Service be a Presidential Prerequisite?
> >
> > (EXCERPT) By Doug Patton November 3, 2003
> >
> > Must a candidate for President of the United States have active duty
> > military experience, preferably in combat, in order to be a qualified
> > commander-in-chief?
> >
> > That argument is being floated by Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, who
> > is struggling to find a way to stop the juggernaut of his fellow
> > liberal New Englander, former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, in their race
> > for the White House.
> >
> > Of the nine Democrats now actively seeking the presidency, only Kerry
> > and retired Gen. Wesley Clark have served in the military - Kerry in
> > the Navy and Clark in the Army. Both are decorated veterans of the
> > Vietnam War; both genuine heroes wounded in battle in the only war the
> > United States ever lost.
> >
> > During a recent debate, Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman took Kerry to
> > task for voting for the war, then flip-flopping by vowing to vote
> > against the financial support needed to support the troops in the
> > field. Kerry's response was a condescending one: "Well, Joe, I have
> > seared into me experiences that you don't have...that of being one of
> > those troops on the front lines."
> >
> > Clark's meteoric rise in the polls, followed immediately by his
> > inability to define himself to a very left-leaning co...
> >
> > U.S. and friendly nation laws prohibit fully reproducing
> > copyrighted material. In abidance with our laws this report
> > cannot be provided in its entirety. However, you can read it
> > in full today, 04 Nov 2003, at the following URL. (COMBINE
> > the following lines into your web browser.) The
> > subject/content of this report is not necessarily the
> > viewpoint of the distributing Library. This report is provided
> > for your information and discussion.
> >
> > http://gopusa.com/dougpatton/dp_1103.shtml
> >
> > ---------------------------
> > Otis Willie
> > Associate Librarian
> > The American War Library
> > http://www.americanwarlibrary.com

>
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Old 11-06-2003, 03:37 AM
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 0051 GMT, "Ted Gittinger"
wrote this crap:

>John-boy never heard of the Blackhawk War, in which Abe Lincoln saw service.
>Ah well, he is only 20% wrong this time, which is an all-time high for him.


The army had blackhawks before the Civil War? Shows what I know. But
I guess it's possible. Leanardo DaVinci invented the chopper, or was
it Algore?


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Old 11-06-2003, 03:38 AM
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 04:02:21 GMT, "fob" wrote this
crap:

>Check up on Lincoln, he was in the Militia and
>I believe up on Court Martial charges.
>
>See what a Canadian, Pierre Burton has to say on
>this.
>Check up on any Roman Senator. Look at Greece,
>the people who started Democracy.
>Jefferson went broke funding the War, Roosevelt ?
>Who would push his wheelchair to a Battle line.
>Some Pesidents had no War to be in.


Gotcha. Roosevelt never sat in a wheelchair until after he was
President.


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