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Old 02-09-2009, 03:07 AM
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Old 02-09-2009, 03:23 AM
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Has the Aussie govennment given any thought to the possibility that the arsonists might be muslim terrorists?
Funny ...I thought of that on Saturday but did not comment as I might be known as a RACIST

the following is a revamp...
Can a good Muslim be a good Australian?
I sent that question to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 24 years.

The following is his reply:

Theologically - no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.

Religiously - no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Koran, 2:256)

Sculpturally - no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran).

Geographically - no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically - no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and Destruction of America, the great Satan.

Domestically - no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).

Intellectually - no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - no. Because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99 excellent names.

Therefore after much study and deliberation.... perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both "good" Muslims and good Australians.

Call it what you wish.... it's still the truth.
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Old 02-09-2009, 04:57 AM
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more rounds out from Deb and I to you and the brave people of Austrailia. We are pulling for all. Arsonist. What kind of people would do something like this????? Maybe life in the toughest shit hole prison in Austrailia since you can't kill em'. How sad.

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Deadly,

It seems odd to me that most of the fires are in ONE PLACE...just northeast of Melbourne.

The Victoria CFA has forensic fire investigators on scene at Kinglake, Marysville and several other fire scenes.

If those fires were started, they will find who did it.

And when they do...WOE BE UNTO THEM!

Like your Prime Minister said, "It's mass murder."

Let them be charged with multiple counts of homocide.

My fervent thoughts are with ALL Australians now, and especially the Aussie firefighters in their efforts to contain the fires.

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...Our thoughts, and prayers go out,...

...Is there anything we can do to help you, and your Countrymen, and women from here ?,...

...An address perhaps to mail small, but meaninful articles you could hand out as time goes on,...

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Islam group urges forest fire jihad
  • Josh Gordon
  • September 7, 2008
AUSTRALIA has been singled out as a target for "forest jihad" by a group of Islamic extremists urging Muslims to deliberately light bushfires as a weapon of terror.

US intelligence channels earlier this year identified a website calling on Muslims in Australia, the US, Europe and Russia to "start forest fires", claiming "scholars have justified chopping down and burning the infidels' forests when they do the same to our lands".

The website, posted by a group called the Al-Ikhlas Islamic Network, argues in Arabic that lighting fires is an effective form of terrorism justified in Islamic law under the "eye for an eye" doctrine.

The posting — which instructs jihadis to remember "forest jihad" in summer months — says fires cause economic damage and pollution, tie up security agencies and can take months to extinguish so that "this terror will haunt them for an extended period of time".

"Imagine if, after all the losses caused by such an event, a jihadist organisation were to claim responsibility for the forest fires," the website says. "You can hardly begin to imagine the level of fear that would take hold of people in the United States, in Europe, in Russia and in Australia."

With the nation heading into another hot, dry summer, Australian intelligence agencies are treating the possibility that bushfires could be used as a weapon of terrorism as a serious concern.

Attorney-General Robert McClelland said the Federal Government remained "vigilant against such threats", warning that anyone caught lighting a fire as a weapon of terror would feel the wrath of anti-terror laws.

"Any information that suggests a threat to Australia's interests is investigated by relevant agencies as appropriate," Mr McClelland said.

Adam Dolnik, director of research at the University of Wollongong's Centre for Transnational Crime Prevention, said that bushfires (unlike suicide bombing) were generally not considered a glorious type of attack by jihadis, in keeping with a recent decline in the sophistication of terrorist operations.

"With attacks like bushfires, yes, it would be easy. It would be very damaging and we do see a decreasing sophistication as a part of terrorist attacks," Dr Dolnik said.

"In recent years, there have been quite a few attacks averted and it has become more and more difficult for groups to do something effective."

Dr Dolnik said he had observed an increase in traffic on jihadi websites calling for a simplification of terrorist attacks because the more complex operations had been failing. But starting bushfires was still often regarded as less effective than other operations because governments could easily deny terrorism as the cause.

The internet posting by the little-known group claimed the idea of forest fires had been attributed to imprisoned Al Qaeda leader Abu Musab Al-Suri.

It said Al-Suri had urged terrorists to use sulphuric acid and petrol to start forest fires.

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Map showing the fires in Victoria
http://www.lifehacker.com.au/tips/20...e_updates.html

The map shows where the fires are occurring, whether they are contained, controlled or still burning, and are a stark reminder just how huge this disaster has been


10/02/2009 Current body count 166
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http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...013871,00.html

http://www.dse.vic.gov.au/DSE/nrenfo...256DA6000942C9

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ss-murder.html


a tragedy the like of which we've never seen in Australia
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