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Old 05-16-2008, 03:21 PM
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We had a chance in the 70s to solve this...........

Since Bush II has been President the cost of oil per barrel has went from $ 26 to $ 127 per barrel. Coincidence ? I think not.

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"Global Capitalism" doesn't seem bothering OTHER Oil Exporting Nations
like Venezuela, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, etc., etc.,...just to mention a few.

How come they don't force their people to buy fuels at ridiculously high and/or
at the manipulated World Spot Price, as Americans, Europeans and some others
forced paying or going without?

No countries mentioned have price regulations on anything and yet still have
reasonable prices for fuel, which both good for people and economies.
Can't our policy makers do just as well,...IF WANTING TO?

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Why should they? The dumbass gas addicts will pay anything to get their fix.
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Don't forget..the biggest increase in oil prices has happened SINCE the Dems took control of Congress..NEITHER PARTY has done a darn thing...lots of words, but NOTHING AT ALL.
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Don't forget..the biggest increase in oil prices has happened SINCE the Dems took control of Congress..NEITHER PARTY has done a darn thing...lots of words, but NOTHING AT ALL.
Both sides of the aisle are whores to the same interests.

In some respects, I agree with you.

Howsumever, what folks fail to recognize IS....that the "Dems" do NOT have a two thirds (2/3) MAJORITY in EITHER the House nor the Senate to "overide" any Presidential veto! Many of the measures the "Dems" have passed have been "vetoed" by this President.

Funny, huh?

Why????Because when the Rethuglicans had control of both house of Congress he (Bush) NEVER--NAD--NOT ONCE (except for the stem cell research bill) EVER "Vetoed" a damn thing! Talk about "PORK SPENDING"....he sure as hell wasn't concerned about ANYTHING the Rethugs passed, now was he??

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Those of you that can't stand capitalisim....done....those of you that are paying too much for gas...done...it's all gonna be fixed. Yep guys...tack your dreams to the new Congress and White House. They gonna fix everything. NASCAR will be gone because of all the gasoline they use, corporations will be gone and THE PEOPLE will own everything. Worked well in Cuba and the Soviet Union...sure it will work here. (if you believe that...I've got a Lada to sell you) I'm still on the list to go to Russia to get health care because ours is so shitty here. No homes in Russia...hey..no forclosures. You know I love all of y'all...but reading all this crap here leads me to believe that you actually believe that Obama...who I'm voting for, and the Congress are going to cure all the ills of society. Man are you guys in for a let down. The VA will still suck, education will still suck, oil companies will still make money, (ahh, just like any corporation is supposed to), some assholes will still be homeless, some people will still be poor....the Arabs will still screw us, the environmentals will still not allow new drilling and new refineries not to mention Nuke power, and last but not least, just cause I'm sick of talking about it, corn farmers will make millions to make a fuel that costs as much and gets less miles to a gallon, while people starve from lack of corn. Thank God I've seen the light and trust NO POLITICIANS ANYMORE. No trust...no bust.

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one thing. Hopefully Obama will put an end to the NBA considering how much fuel they use to fly all these teams around the country and the fuel used to heat and air condition the buildings from August until June. Not counting the gas used by Chardonney Liberals to take them to the games in stretch HumVees. Oh, never mind, he and the Congress wouldn't want to upset their base. Too bad.

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We had a chance in the 70s to solve this...........

Since Bush II has been President the cost of oil per barrel has went from $ 26 to $ 127 per barrel. Coincidence ? I think not.

Larry
And we had a chance to help with the dependency on the Arabs, but Slick Willie vetoed the bill to allow for drilling in ANWAR.

In the final analysis, what control does any President have over the price of oil? Short answer: none, zip, zilch, nada. And until you socialists and marxists take over the country, the President will have no control over the price of oil.
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I have seen various estimates of how much oil there is supposed to be in ANWAR. At any rate, it will not last forever.

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I did not realize that you were a "socialists and marxists " like Superscout described. Are YOU aware of that???

I suppose anyone who offers an opinion different than HIS..... must fall into that category?

And, his comment...and I quote..."In the final analysis, what control does any President have over the price of oil"?...is nothing but bullcrap.

I suppose that he somehow forgot WHO imposed "price controls" on oil & gasoline in the early 1970's, right?---That fine example of Republican policies and values hiseff, President Richard Milhouse Nixon! Does that make HIM a "socialists and marxists"??? Of course Jimmy Carter has been "blamed" for the long lines at gasoline pumps and the problems associated with the "oil crisis" during the 70s'.........but ask ANY economic expert and they'll tell you that Nixon was the "cause" of all those problems when he mandated those "price controls". Jimmy Carter was just following the"lead" of that "socialist" ...Richard Nixon!

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Those of you that can't stand capitalisim....done....those of you that are paying too much for gas...done...it's all gonna be fixed. Yep guys...tack your dreams to the new Congress and White House. They gonna fix everything. NASCAR will be gone because of all the gasoline they use, corporations will be gone and THE PEOPLE will own everything. Worked well in Cuba and the Soviet Union...sure it will work here. (if you believe that...I've got a Lada to sell you) I'm still on the list to go to Russia to get health care because ours is so shitty here. No homes in Russia...hey..no forclosures. You know I love all of y'all...but reading all this crap here leads me to believe that you actually believe that Obama...who I'm voting for, and the Congress are going to cure all the ills of society. Man are you guys in for a let down. The VA will still suck, education will still suck, oil companies will still make money, (ahh, just like any corporation is supposed to), some assholes will still be homeless, some people will still be poor....the Arabs will still screw us, the environmentals will still not allow new drilling and new refineries not to mention Nuke power, and last but not least, just cause I'm sick of talking about it, corn farmers will make millions to make a fuel that costs as much and gets less miles to a gallon, while people starve from lack of corn. Thank God I've seen the light and trust NO POLITICIANS ANYMORE. No trust...no bust.

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Oh come on, Packo. How naive do you think we are? Obama or McCain. Same same GI. But, vote against the incumbant..always. The message needs to be sent that their job is not secure until they represent the people of the US, not corporations, NGO's, etc. The political culture has to change. Want alternative energy? Grab the politicians by the short hairs & make it hurt. Easy? No! But what other choice do we have?
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