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Old 02-06-2004, 10:44 AM
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Richard Rongstad wrote in message news:<40229D93.475FB8D2@NOSPAMvikiingphoenix.com>...
> Luis ORTEGA ranted:
> >
> > "Richard Rongstad" wrote
> > > The Republicans aren't that smart.

> >
> > i agree. they pioneered the politics of personal destruction because they
> > found that their right-wing, fundamentalist agenda is alien to the majority
> > of voters.
> > al gore ran a crap campaign and still managed to win the support of a
> > majority of voters.
> > obviously, democratic ideals of social conscience, environmental
> > responsibility and economic fair play are far more in step with voters than
> > bush's mean-spirited, environmentally irresponsible, feed-the-rich agenda.
> > the only way they can make their bankrupt, divisive ideology appear viable
> > is to lie, smear and scare their way into power.

>
> In your class warfare rant you forgot that:
>
> (1) The morons displaying barely readable photocopies of
> George W. Bush's National Guard records during the Vietnam War
> online as if it is evidence of some cockamamie bullshit they've
> dreamed up are really displaying their ignorance and trying to
> exploit the average citizen that also doesn't understand such things.
>
> (2) This tactic comes out of the New Left Seminar Caller's Manual,
> a popular edition favored by Peta, Sierra Club, Socialist Worker's
> Party, Greens, socialists, pedophiles, progressives and other Democrats.
>
> (3) In turn, the New Left Seminar Caller types of manuals draw upon
> the lessons learned from political warfare pamphlets that were
> initially inspired by the Bolshevik and Soviet guidebooks distributed
> in the U.S. by the Comintern, a duty later taken over by the KGB.
>
> Incidentally, these guidebooks were provided by the same people
> that sent money to CPUSA leader Gus Hall. I believe it was also
> later revealed that money was sent from Moscow to support
> Jimmy Carter's run for president. The communists in Moscow saw
> Carter as a potential ally. Maybe Al Gore, Jr. ran a shit
> campaign because the Soviet money and support for the Gore family
> via agent of influence Armand Hammer during the Vietnam War
> had dried up by then.
>
> (4) Republicans and almost every political faction in the U.S.
> have borrowed ideas from the Democrat's Soviet inspired political
> playbooks, and oh, how the left squeals everytime, but, political
> playbooks coming from the Republican side are home grown.


Please let me know where I can get a copy of the New Left Seminar Caller's Manual.
--Russ
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Old 02-06-2004, 11:31 AM
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On 6 Feb 2004 10:44:28 -0800, rbbomber@netzero.com (rbbomber) wrote:

>Richard Rongstad wrote in message news:<40229D93.475FB8D2@NOSPAMvikiingphoenix.com>...
>> Luis ORTEGA ranted:
>> >
>> > "Richard Rongstad" wrote
>> > > The Republicans aren't that smart.
>> >
>> > i agree. they pioneered the politics of personal destruction because they
>> > found that their right-wing, fundamentalist agenda is alien to the majority
>> > of voters.
>> > al gore ran a crap campaign and still managed to win the support of a
>> > majority of voters.
>> > obviously, democratic ideals of social conscience, environmental
>> > responsibility and economic fair play are far more in step with voters than
>> > bush's mean-spirited, environmentally irresponsible, feed-the-rich agenda.
>> > the only way they can make their bankrupt, divisive ideology appear viable
>> > is to lie, smear and scare their way into power.

>>
>> In your class warfare rant you forgot that:
>>
>> (1) The morons displaying barely readable photocopies of
>> George W. Bush's National Guard records during the Vietnam War
>> online as if it is evidence of some cockamamie bullshit they've
>> dreamed up are really displaying their ignorance and trying to
>> exploit the average citizen that also doesn't understand such things.
>>
>> (2) This tactic comes out of the New Left Seminar Caller's Manual,
>> a popular edition favored by Peta, Sierra Club, Socialist Worker's
>> Party, Greens, socialists, pedophiles, progressives and other Democrats.
>>
>> (3) In turn, the New Left Seminar Caller types of manuals draw upon
>> the lessons learned from political warfare pamphlets that were
>> initially inspired by the Bolshevik and Soviet guidebooks distributed
>> in the U.S. by the Comintern, a duty later taken over by the KGB.
>>
>> Incidentally, these guidebooks were provided by the same people
>> that sent money to CPUSA leader Gus Hall. I believe it was also
>> later revealed that money was sent from Moscow to support
>> Jimmy Carter's run for president. The communists in Moscow saw
>> Carter as a potential ally. Maybe Al Gore, Jr. ran a shit
>> campaign because the Soviet money and support for the Gore family
>> via agent of influence Armand Hammer during the Vietnam War
>> had dried up by then.
>>
>> (4) Republicans and almost every political faction in the U.S.
>> have borrowed ideas from the Democrat's Soviet inspired political
>> playbooks, and oh, how the left squeals everytime, but, political
>> playbooks coming from the Republican side are home grown.

>
>Please let me know where I can get a copy of the New Left Seminar Caller's Manual.
> --Russ

check with the DNC
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Old 02-06-2004, 01:15 PM
Homer Brewer
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"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in message news:...
> Homer Brewer wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm sure I could criticize Bush on some counts, but in his military
> > service he sounds like a decent, patriotic young man for whom being a
> > congressman's son was a misfortune.
> >
> > Homer

> Sounds like someone blew it because in the Bush Biography it states that
> Bush was current as a pilot until his discharge. Also, is it JUST a
> coincidence that the flight physical that Bush did not take included for
> the first time DRUG TESTING. His excuse for not taking the physical was
> that he was transfering to Alabama and his flight surgeon could not
> administer the test - or that the unit he was reporting to did not have the
> aircraft he was traind to fly. He fails to mention that he FIRST tried to
> get into a POSTAL unit in Alabama but even the National Guard did not
> permit that.


Thanks. More information can help me get a better picture.

Could his biography have been technically correct in calling him a
current pilot even if he hadn't been allowed to fly in years? He says
he volunteered for Vietnam, which is apparently not true. It sounds
as if Bush doesn't strictly follow the example of George Washington in
the Cherry Tree Incident.

So far, I understand he went on active duty in July of 1968 and was
assigned as an interceptor pilot in March of 1970. I think it was
shortly after this that the press interviewed him about how much he
loved being a pilot. In May of 1971, he was given a physical that did
not categorize him as a pilot.

He was a celebrity with a low aptitude for pilot skills assigned to a
tricky airplane. Whether or not he abused drugs, bad landings or
unsatisfactory simulator tests could explain why he was grounded.

I wonder what a National Guard postal unit does. When did he apply?
For Texas authorities, letting him move to a place without an airbase
may have been a way to hide the fact that they had grounded the
congressman's son. Alabama authorities may not have been interested
in helping out.

Drug use could be a motive for avoiding a physical. I wonder if there
was another motive. If a pilot took a physical, could that have made
more people privy to the fact that the pilot was not allowed to fly?

Drug abuse could explain what happened. I wonder what evidence there
is that in those days he had a drug habit that could not be hidden
from a test.

Homer
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Old 02-06-2004, 01:47 PM
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"Marvin" wrote in message
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> On 6 Feb 2004 10:44:28 -0800, rbbomber@netzero.com (rbbomber) wrote:


> >Please let me know where I can get a copy of the New Left Seminar Caller's

Manual.
> > --Russ

> check with the DNC


I did.....they said they were out and suggested that the RNC had a good supply
of them that they use as models for their own manuals. (^-^)))

George Z.


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Old 02-06-2004, 01:58 PM
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On 6 Feb 2004 1300 -0800, arctanc@hotmail.com (Homer Brewer)
wrote:

>"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in message news:...
>> Homer Brewer wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I'm sure I could criticize Bush on some counts, but in his military
>> > service he sounds like a decent, patriotic young man for whom being a
>> > congressman's son was a misfortune.
>> >
>> > Homer

>> Sounds like someone blew it because in the Bush Biography it states that
>> Bush was current as a pilot until his discharge. Also, is it JUST a
>> coincidence that the flight physical that Bush did not take included for
>> the first time DRUG TESTING. His excuse for not taking the physical was
>> that he was transfering to Alabama and his flight surgeon could not
>> administer the test - or that the unit he was reporting to did not have the
>> aircraft he was traind to fly. He fails to mention that he FIRST tried to
>> get into a POSTAL unit in Alabama but even the National Guard did not
>> permit that.

>
>Thanks. More information can help me get a better picture.
>
>Could his biography have been technically correct in calling him a
>current pilot even if he hadn't been allowed to fly in years? He says
>he volunteered for Vietnam, which is apparently not true. It sounds
>as if Bush doesn't strictly follow the example of George Washington in
>the Cherry Tree Incident.
>
>So far, I understand he went on active duty in July of 1968 and was
>assigned as an interceptor pilot in March of 1970. I think it was
>shortly after this that the press interviewed him about how much he
>loved being a pilot. In May of 1971, he was given a physical that did
>not categorize him as a pilot.
>
>He was a celebrity with a low aptitude for pilot skills assigned to a
>tricky airplane. Whether or not he abused drugs, bad landings or
>unsatisfactory simulator tests could explain why he was grounded.
>
>I wonder what a National Guard postal unit does. When did he apply?
>For Texas authorities, letting him move to a place without an airbase
>may have been a way to hide the fact that they had grounded the
>congressman's son. Alabama authorities may not have been interested
>in helping out.
>
>Drug use could be a motive for avoiding a physical. I wonder if there
>was another motive. If a pilot took a physical, could that have made
>more people privy to the fact that the pilot was not allowed to fly?
>
>Drug abuse could explain what happened. I wonder what evidence there
>is that in those days he had a drug habit that could not be hidden
>from a test.
>
>Homer


bullshit, according to those who were there you are full of it.



Bush's stint in Guard scrutinized
Flier avoided battle but favoritism denied
07/04/99
By Pete Slover and George Kuempel / The Dallas Morning News AUSTIN -
With the Vietnam War raging, 21-year-old George W. Bush wanted to join
the Texas Air National Guard in 1968. He offered no aviation
experience but cited his work as a ranch hand, oil field "roustabout"
and sporting goods salesman.
He passed the written test required for pilot trainees. Among the
results:
He showed below-average potential as a would-be flier but scored high
as a future leader.
Although Mr. Bush's unit in Texas had a waiting list for many spots,
he was accepted because he was one of a handful of applicants willing
and qualified to spend more than a year in active training, and extra
shifts after training, flying single-seat F-102 fighter jets. Once he
was in, Guard officials sought to capitalize on his standing as the
son of a congressman.
A 1970 Guard news release featured Mr. Bush as "one member of our
younger generation who doesn't get his kicks from pot or hashish or
speed. "On, he gets high, all right, but not from narcotics," it
said. "Fighters are it," Mr. Bush is quoted as saying. "I've always
wanted to be a fighter pilot, and I wouldn't want to fly anything
else." Such are the details that emerge from a review of Mr. Bush's
service record by The Dallas Morning News, along with interviews with
Guard leaders, former colleagues and state officials familiar with
that unit. Mr. Bush, 52, now the Republican front-runner for
president, has repeatedly denied suggestions by political rivals that
he received preferential treatment to get into the Guard - widely seen
as a haven from which enlistees were unlikely to be shipped to
Vietnam. As evidence he wasn't dodging combat, Mr. Bush has pointed
to his efforts to try to volunteer for a program that rotated Guard
pilots to Vietnam, although he wasn't called.
"There was no special treatment," he said. Mr. Bush said he took
flying seriously. "You will die in your airplane if you didn't
practice, and I wasn't interested in dying," he said. Records
provided to The News by Tom Hail, a historian for the Texas Air
National Guard, show that the unit Mr. Bush signed up for was not
filled. In mid-1968, the 147th Fighter Interceptor Group, based in
Houston, had 156 openings among its authorized staff of 925 military
personnel. Of those, 26 openings were for officer slots, such as that
filled by Mr. Bush, and 130 were for enlisted men and women. Also,
several former Air Force pilots who served in the unit said that they
were recruited from elsewhere to fly for the Texas Guard.
Officers who supervised Mr. Bush and approved his admission to the
Guard said they were never contacted by anyone on Mr. Bush's behalf.
"He didn't have any strings pulled, because there weren't any strings
to pull," said Leroy Thompson of Brownwood, who commanded the squadron
that kept the waiting list for the guard at Ellington Air Force Base.
"Our practices were under incredible scrutiny then. It was a very
ticklish time."
Fellow members of the Bush unit said they knew of his background.
U.S. Rep. George Bush was at his son's side when he was made an
officer in the Guard. The elder Mr. Bush, a former World War II pilot,
later spoke at his son's graduation from flight school.
David Hanifl of La Crescent, Minn., an Air Force regular who went
through pilot training in Georgia with George W. Bush, said the flight
instructors were eager to fly with the Texan.
"He didn't get any preferential treatment, but some of the instructors
liked the idea of scheduling him to fly with them because of his
connections," he said.
Mr. Hanifl said it was somewhat unusual for a Guardsman to be included
in the flight class with Air Force regulars. "You had to have clout
to get that type of assignment," he said. He added that Mr. Bush was a
good pilot and did not seek any favors. Also getting into the Bush
unit in 1968 was Lloyd Bentsen III, a recent graduate of Stanford
University business school whose father was a former congressman later
elected Democratic U.S. senator from Texas.
The waiting list
According to several former officers, the openings in the unit were
filled from a waiting list kept in the base safe of Rufus G. Martin,
then an Air National Guard personnel officer.
In a recent interview, Mr. Martin of San Antonio said the list was
kept on computer and in a bound volume, which was periodically
inspected by outside agencies to make sure the list was kept properly.
Mr. Bush said he sought the Guard position on his own, before
graduating from Yale University in 1968. He personally met with Col.
Walter B. Staudt, commander of the 147th group.
In an interview, Mr. Bush said he walked into Col. Staudt's Houston
office and told him he wanted to be a fighter pilot. "He told me they
were looking for pilots," Mr. Bush said. He said he was told that
there were five or six flying slots available, and he got one of them.
While Guard slots generally were coveted, pilot positions required
superior education, physical fitness and the willingness to spend more
than a year in full-time training.
"If somebody like that came along, you'd snatch them up," said the
former commander, who retired as a general. "He took no advantage. It
wouldn't have made any difference whether his daddy was chairman of
the Joint Chiefs of Staff."
Bobby Hodges, the group's operations officer, and others familiar with
Guard rules said Mr. Bush made it to the top of the short list of
candidates who could pass both the written officer test and a rigorous
flight physical to qualify for the three to four annual pilot training
"quotas" allotted to the unit.
Mr. Hodges and Gen. Staudt are the two surviving members of the
military panel that reviewed and approved Mr. Bush's officer
commission. Most of those wanting to get into the Guard at that time,
they said, didn't want to put in the full year of active service that
was required to become a pilot.
Pilot aptitude test
Records from his military file show that in January 1968, after
inquiring about Guard admission, Mr. Bush went to an Air Force
recruiting office near Yale, where he took and passed the test
required by the Air Force for pilot trainees. His score on the pilot
aptitude section, one of five on the test, was in the 25th percentile,
the lowest allowed for would-be fliers.
Ralph J. Ianuzzi, a newly minted Air Force captain, supervised
administration of the test and signed Mr. Bush's score sheet, an event
of which he had no recollection.
The pilot portion of the exam included tasks such as identifying the
angle of a plane in flight after being shown the view from the cockpit
and figuring out which way a gear in a machine would turn in response
to another gear's being turned.
"That score for pilot seems low. I made that, and I'm dyslexic," Mr.
Ianuzzi, a retired FBI agent who never earned his wings but said it
was significant that Mr. Bush did. "He passed the most important test.
He flew the plane."
On the "officer quality section," designed to measure intangible
traits such as leadership, Mr. Bush scored better than 95 percent of
those taking the test.
It's impossible to compare Mr. Bush's score on the test to scores of
other pilot candidates, because Air Force historians say no records
survive of average scores for those accepted to pilot training.
Pilot training
After completing basic training in San Antonio in August 1968, he
helped out aircraft mechanics at Ellington until that November, when a
pilot-training slot came open.
He was promoted to second lieutenant and began a 13-month pilot
training program at Moody Air Force Base, in Georgia. He was the only
Guardsman among the 70 or so officers from other branches of the
military who began the training.
Under the terms of his contract with the military, if Mr. Bush had
failed to complete pilot school, he would have been required to serve
the Guard in some other capacity, to enter the draft, or to enlist in
another branch of the military.
After passing flight training, Mr. Bush was schooled for several more
months at Ellington, and in March 1970 began flying "alerts," the name
used to describe the 147th's mission of guarding gulf coast borders
against foreign attack.
In those days, the 147th kept at least two fighters ready to scramble,
round-the-clock, guarding Texas oil fields and refineries against
airstrikes.
"It's kind of a non-threatening way to do your military, get paid well
for some long shifts, and feel good about your own involvement," said
Douglas W. Solberg, now an airline pilot, offering his reasons for
joining the 147th and serving with Mr. Bush after an Air Force flying
stint. "It was a cushy way to be a patriot."
A former non-commissioned officer who worked on planes and supervised
other ground crews at Ellington said Mr. Bush was not a silver-spoon
snob or elitist, unlike some former Air Force fliers. "I remember him
coming down, kicking the tires, washing the windows, whatever," said
Joe H. Briggs, now of Houston. 'I'm probably one of the few people
around who'll admit I voted for Clinton. But I'll pull for this guy
for president."
No overseas duty
Mr. Bush's application for the Guard included a box to be checked
specifying whether he did or did not volunteer for overseas duty. His
includes a check mark in the box not wanting to volunteer for such an
assignment.
But several personnel officers said that part of the application for
domestic Guard units routinely would be filled out that way by a clerk
typist, then given to the applicant to sign. Mr. Bush has said that
he signed up for but lacked the number of flying hours to participate
in a program called the Palace Alert, which eventually rotated nine
pilots from his unit into duty in Southeast Asia from 1969 to 1970.
His signup and willingness to participate was confirmed by several of
his
colleagues and superiors, who remembered the effort as brash but
admirable.
"The more experienced pilots were shaking their heads, saying, 'He
doesn't even know where to park the planes,' " said Albert C. Lloyd,
then head of personnel for the Texas Air National Guard. Some
attention has also focused on Mr. Bush's departure from the service.
Under his original oath, he was obligated to serve in the Guard until
May 1974. Instead, he was allowed to leave in October 1973 to attend
Harvard Business School.
Former Guard officials and members of Mr. Bush's unit said that
release, seven months early, was not unusual for the Guard. Mr. Bush's
unit was changing airplanes at the time, from the single-seat F-102 to
the dual-seat F-101. They said it made little sense to retrain him for
just a few months' service, and letting him go freed spots for the
Guard to recruit F-101 pilots from the Air Force and elsewhere.


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Old 02-06-2004, 02:55 PM
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In article <8e3820hbu9bh4hccin7ct3pdaqjj7bd4eh@4ax.com>,
Perry wrote:

> On 6 Feb 2004 1300 -0800, arctanc@hotmail.com (Homer Brewer)
> wrote:
>
> >"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in message
> >news:...
> >> Homer Brewer wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I'm sure I could criticize Bush on some counts, but in his military
> >> > service he sounds like a decent, patriotic young man for whom being a
> >> > congressman's son was a misfortune.
> >> >
> >> > Homer
> >> Sounds like someone blew it because in the Bush Biography it states that
> >> Bush was current as a pilot until his discharge. Also, is it JUST a
> >> coincidence that the flight physical that Bush did not take included for
> >> the first time DRUG TESTING.

> >
> >Thanks. More information can help me get a better picture.
> >
> >I wonder what evidence there
> >is that in those days he had a drug habit that could not be hidden
> >from a test.
> >
> >Homer

>
> bullshit, according to those who were there you are full of it.
>
>

Thank you, Perry. I *wanted* to say that, but I'm not as brave as you.


Homer has *no right* calling W a decent, patriotic young man when
everyone here knows he was a shirking doper.

Does this group have a Director of Disciplinary Action? Homer should be
penalized.
--
Until next time,
Marcey
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Old 02-06-2004, 02:56 PM
Paul E. Lehmann
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Homer Brewer wrote:

> "Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in message
> news:...
>> Homer Brewer wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I'm sure I could criticize Bush on some counts, but in his military
>> > service he sounds like a decent, patriotic young man for whom being a
>> > congressman's son was a misfortune.
>> >
>> > Homer

>> Sounds like someone blew it because in the Bush Biography it states that
>> Bush was current as a pilot until his discharge. Also, is it JUST a
>> coincidence that the flight physical that Bush did not take included for
>> the first time DRUG TESTING. His excuse for not taking the physical was
>> that he was transfering to Alabama and his flight surgeon could not
>> administer the test - or that the unit he was reporting to did not have
>> the
>> aircraft he was traind to fly. He fails to mention that he FIRST tried
>> to get into a POSTAL unit in Alabama but even the National Guard did not
>> permit that.

>
> Thanks. More information can help me get a better picture.
>
> Could his biography have been technically correct in calling him a
> current pilot even if he hadn't been allowed to fly in years?


No, I am a private pilot but I am not current because I have not had a
biannual flight review or physical. Even though I still hold a pilot
license, I am not current and therefore not allowed to fly. I would thing
the same would apply in the Bush case

For the reference to the "Postal Unit" and other information see the link
below:

http://whistleass.typepad.com/boot_g...n_2004/2004/01
george_bush_mil.html


> He says
> he volunteered for Vietnam, which is apparently not true. It sounds
> as if Bush doesn't strictly follow the example of George Washington in
> the Cherry Tree Incident.
>
> So far, I understand he went on active duty in July of 1968 and was
> assigned as an interceptor pilot in March of 1970. I think it was
> shortly after this that the press interviewed him about how much he
> loved being a pilot. In May of 1971, he was given a physical that did
> not categorize him as a pilot.


This is interesting. Can you give me a reference for the May of 1971
physical please.

>
> He was a celebrity with a low aptitude for pilot skills assigned to a
> tricky airplane. Whether or not he abused drugs, bad landings or
> unsatisfactory simulator tests could explain why he was grounded.


During this same time interval, Bush was convicted of some civilian offense,
We know not what it was but he had to do community service work as part of
the punishment. Suspicions are that he got busted for coke posession but
his daddy pulled his usual political strings and found a judge willing to
let junior off very easy.


>
> I wonder what a National Guard postal unit does. When did he apply?
> For Texas authorities, letting him move to a place without an airbase
> may have been a way to hide the fact that they had grounded the
> congressman's son. Alabama authorities may not have been interested
> in helping out.


See the link above. It looks like there was an airbase there but the unit
he tried to get into was not a flying unit. One of the members was quoted
as saying it was a postal unit.

>
> Drug use could be a motive for avoiding a physical. I wonder if there
> was another motive. If a pilot took a physical, could that have made
> more people privy to the fact that the pilot was not allowed to fly?
>
> Drug abuse could explain what happened. I wonder what evidence there
> is that in those days he had a drug habit that could not be hidden
> from a test.
>
> Homer


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Old 02-06-2004, 03:22 PM
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"Lone Haranguer" wrote in message >
> Heavens to Murgatroyd!


I would never do such a thing.

You would steal a line, though, wuntchou?

(What does
> "mature" mean?)


You want the verb or the adverb?
>
> > from the way you talk, you have the intellectual and emotional maturity

of a
> > self-absorbed, dimwit kid.

>
> Thanks. I practice a lot.


Not necessary. Relax. It comes to you naturally.

ted


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Old 02-06-2004, 03:36 PM
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On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 17:55:22 -0500, Marcia Pease
wrote:

>In article <8e3820hbu9bh4hccin7ct3pdaqjj7bd4eh@4ax.com>,
> Perry wrote:
>
>> On 6 Feb 2004 1300 -0800, arctanc@hotmail.com (Homer Brewer)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote in message
>> >news:...
>> >> Homer Brewer wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm sure I could criticize Bush on some counts, but in his military
>> >> > service he sounds like a decent, patriotic young man for whom being a
>> >> > congressman's son was a misfortune.
>> >> >
>> >> > Homer
>> >> Sounds like someone blew it because in the Bush Biography it states that
>> >> Bush was current as a pilot until his discharge. Also, is it JUST a
>> >> coincidence that the flight physical that Bush did not take included for
>> >> the first time DRUG TESTING.
>> >
>> >Thanks. More information can help me get a better picture.
>> >
>> >I wonder what evidence there
>> >is that in those days he had a drug habit that could not be hidden
>> >from a test.
>> >
>> >Homer

>>
>> bullshit, according to those who were there you are full of it.
>>
>>

>Thank you, Perry. I *wanted* to say that, but I'm not as brave as you.
>
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>Homer has *no right* calling W a decent, patriotic young man when
>everyone here knows he was a shirking doper.
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>Does this group have a Director of Disciplinary Action? Homer should be
>penalized.


Marcia you have a reading problem.
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Old 02-06-2004, 05:38 PM
Lone Haranguer
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Default Re: How bush jr drank and snorted his way through the vietnam waryears

Ted Gittinger wrote:
> "Lone Haranguer" wrote in message >
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>>Heavens to Murgatroyd!

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> I would never do such a thing.
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> You would steal a line, though, wuntchou?


You can always tell who watches cartoons.
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> (What does
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>>"mature" mean?)

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> You want the verb or the adverb?
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You don't know either?

>>>from the way you talk, you have the intellectual and emotional maturity

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> of a
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>>>self-absorbed, dimwit kid.

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>>Thanks. I practice a lot.

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> Not necessary. Relax. It comes to you naturally.


Well, I do have a lot of talents. May as well let them shine.
LZ
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