Another asshat politician!

[exlrrp]

Well welll well--you people sure like to get your dander up and start tossing insults, don't you? I guess youall got tired of ragging on the French, now its on to something else.
Let me get this right--the Lt Governor of the State goes to the funeral of a MArine from her state that was killed in Iraq
Isn't that what the politician is supposed to do? Usually people are glad to have a representative of the government the kid dies for show up.
And she gave someone her business card--well how awful is that? evidently she wanted them to contact her if they needed anything--I saw her say this on TV and it seems reasonable--its why you give someone your business card.
Were their invitations to the fuineral?? Did they say : No Democrats??
Maybe you ought to try some anger manangement, doing this kind of thing in the morning can spoil your day

stay good
James

[SuperScout]

How many funerals you have ever shown up for as an uninvited "mourner"?

How many people do you know who show up as an uninvited "mourner" at any funeral?

How many people do you know that show up as uninvited "mourners" at funerals and make political campaign statements?

The facts of the matter are that she was not there to express sympathy for family, but to make a political statement. What can she do, as the lieutenant governor, that hasn't already been done for the family?

You obviously completely missed the point. Not one person mentioned political parties until you did; people are incensed because of her crass, slimy behavior, not because of her political party. Even her boss, the governor of Pennsylvania has written a letter of apology to the bereaved family. If her behavior wasn't all that slimy, why would he write such a letter?

[Arrow]

What really upset the family, Goodrich said, is that Knoll said, 'I want you to know our government is against this war,'" Goodrich said

James must have missed the above.It wasn't her appearance that upset the family but taking the opportunity to push her agenda. I really was not thinking of her political affliation but did wonder ifshe wasstereotypically blonde.You've got to be two bubbles off center to walk into a military funeral of a man that volunteered and announce the state government is against the war. Hello?

Arrow>>>>>

[1CAVCCO15MED]

James, not rag on the French? It's too much fun to give up, they are so vulnerable: French sports magazine L'Equipe in an article about Lance Armstrong's seventh win of the Tour D'France, "Never to such an extent, probably, has been the departure of a champion been welcomed with such widespread relief. It is the end of an era but also of a doubt. That's so true that he felt the need to express himself, yesterday on the Champs-Elysees, to ask skeptics to believe in miracles." Never mind he survived cancer of the testicle metastasized to the brain and that is the miracle. Besides, we are far behind the Brits in this endeavor and need to really work hard to catch up.

[Seascamp]

Zo then, apparently the Lt. Governors account differs form that of the bereaved family. No doubt who will loose that battle, at least on paper, and that will most likely take the form of some esoteric language about a ?misunderstanding?. Oh well, historical revisionism before the story fully plays out is par for the course these times.

Ya know, people at that level Government have spokes persons, appointment secretaries and arrangers on staff and it would have been a professional gesture and known protocol to contact the family beforehand and at least express and intent or desire to attend and no doubt that would have been well received.

And then, the Lt. Governor represents the Office of the Governor so it would seem the Governor would not have been bushwhacked, positioned and levered by this episode. Like a loss of focus on who?s supposed to be dog and who is supposed to be tail and who wags what. Curious.

Scamp

[MORTARDUDE]

Why would the family have any reason to lie about what she did ? I think it would be admirable if more politicians would acknowledge the sacrifice of those in Iraq, and offer to come to the funerals, but only if the family was notified ahead of time and agrred to it...If the Lt. Gov. made a public political statement, in a time of grief such as this, she deserves all the ire heaped on her. Does that make sense James ?

Larry

[SuperScout]

On Saturday, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette broke the story about Pennsylvania Lt. Governor Catherine Baker Knoll's uninvited attendance at the July 19 funeral of Marine Staff Sgt. Joseph Goodrich, who was killed in Iraq on July 10. According to the paper, Knoll passed out business cards during communion, and told a grieving relative, "I want you to know our government is against this war."

Reading the story carefully, what stands out to me is this: the Light Governor really thought she was saying something comforting.

That's more shockingly revealing, in a way, about how the liberals just don't get it than supposing she was being a mean-spirited bitch of the Michael Moore genre. Moore, who as columnist Jack Kelly reminds us in a column on Knoll's gaffe, disgracefully used footage from the funeral of an Air Force officer in Fahrenheit 9-11, doesn't give a rat's necktie who he offends and makes a (damned good) living off being a political shock jock.

Knoll, on the other hand, is just a wimpy liberal sap. She may have outstanding academic credentials and must have come from something like a normal background, having been the wife of a postmaster (since deceased), but she's been so sucked in by left-wing propaganda that she imagines any family which has lost a loved one in the Iraqi War would be comforted to know that "our government is against this war."

Meaning the Pennsylvania state government, headed by her boss, Gov. Ed Rendell, who promptly apologized to the Marine's family once the story had broken. Rendell, no left-wing loony, but rather a hard-nosed, back-room Philadelphia politician, can sniff the acrid odor of electoral dynamite from the other side of the mountain. As of mid-afternoon Monday, Ms. Knoll is AWOL. She hasn't been seen since the story broke. (But since that wasn't until Saturday, and the funeral was Tuesday, she spent a blissful three days not knowing she had already committed political suicide. One wonders if she even suspected the magnitude of what she had done.) An anonymous member of Knoll's staff issued a "hearts go out" statement in her name, but admits (or claims) the statement was not approved by the boss. Rendell, too, maintains he has not talked to her.

Perhaps not, but you can be sure someone in the Governor's office has. What you can't be sure of is whether Knoll will ever resurface from the rock quarry somewhere south of Scranton to which she has been banished in order to keep her from stepping on her tonsils again.

What's going on there is that a Rendell-sent gang of toughs from the Italian Market neighborhood is reeducating her, perhaps with truncheons, in a crash course she probably won't list alongside the proud references to Duquesne, Harvard and Wharton on her resume, but from which she may, nonetheless, learn something.

Meanwhile, back in Harrisburg, Rendell and the rest of his staff are trying to answer the question of whether to: a) accept Knoll's resignation immediately; b) quietly drop her from his reelection ticket next year; or c) tough it out and hope the quarry crew has beaten some sense into her head, and that she won't do anything else stupid for the next sixteen months.

Conservatives are demanding option a, but option b seems most likely to me. It'd be the least newsworthy course, and that's the one a seasoned pol wants in a case like this. It's a tough call what to do with her for the remainder of the term, but I'd say for one thing that if Ms. Knoll wants to witness any more funerals, she'll best do it by watching Six Feet Under.

The Gazette and other newsies will be monitoring her actions like buzzards, and if she so much as drives off wearing a black dress, cameras will descend, upsetting the solemnity of the moment you may be sure.

In his statement, Rendell says, "It's not the business of state government to support the war, but our state supports the men and women who are fighting this war." That's technically right, of course, and probably the only thing the Governor can say. The Constitution gives the conduct of foreign policy to the Feds, and states, per se, have no business taking sides.

But someone needs to tell these Democrats that you can't be against the war and supportive of the troops at the same time. Because if you do, you are saying something like, "Have a good fight ? even though you're not fighting for anything worthwhile."

That's not an acceptable position, and particularly not in the presence of a grieving family that desperately needs reassurance their loved one's life was given in a noble cause, as Sgt. Goodrich's most certainly was.

[urbsdad6]

If there was ever an inapproproate time and place for an inapropriate action such as this to occur, this was it. Lower than whale s*%t.

Doc Urb

[BLUEHAWK]

What shall I call this, an interlocutory "postscript", or mere shiat chat?


"But someone needs to tell these Democrats that you can't be against the war and supportive of the troops at the same time. Because if you do, you are saying something like, "Have a good fight ? even though you're not fighting for anything worthwhile."

Brice Barnes, US Army Colonel (ret)

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"Hey, Brice...

Sometimes being supportive is trying to get a murderous, lying, stab-'em-in-the-back President to tell those troops the truth....

Then maybe even dumb shidts like you will be able to figure it out....

In the meanwhile, pile your convoluted, illogical guilt-trip elsewhere... "

RIML

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"Hooooooo boy... cannot WAIT to read his response.

Man, oh man... have you ever insulted THE wrong guy."

Bluehawk

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Scout, if you want to know the source of this, I'll convey it PM.

[Gimpy]

You ARE without a doubt the BIGGEST 'shit-stirer' around these parts, ya know?

Didn't you get the 'message' David was sending to everybody to 'tone down' the political name-calling and bullshit around here??

Why is it you seem soooooooooooooooo transparent with your happy horsecrap that it's statrin to STINK, HUH?

For Gods' sake man, GET A LIFE will ya??? :cd: