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Old 06-28-2005, 09:09 AM
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Kennedy? If think Kennedy is a liberal then so is Sean Hannity.
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Originally posted by SuperScout To try to paint all private corporate interests as bad boogie men of the conservative stripe is as bogus as the original poster - anybody ever heard of what Sen. Corzine, D-NJ, did before he purchased.... er, obtained his US Senate seat? Anybody bother to check what corporate fat cats supported John "Did I ever tell you I was a Vietnam veteran" Kerry? And just because a Republican president appoints a judge to the SC doesn't automatically lock in any future votes on that political viewpoint. Classic case in point: Earl Warren (Chief overseer of the Japanese internment camps under FDR) was appointed by Eisenhower, and turned out to be one of the most liberal chief justices in the history of the SC. What is at issue is a perversion of the 5th Amendment, an overreaching decision by an overreaching Court. And it was the liberals on the SC that just ruled against the mere presence of the 10 Commandments on public property. Next, we'll have to do some serious remodeling of the SC building, as it is fraught with religious words.
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I have lived some personal and serious time in Tulsa. The original native word "Tulsee" means, "gathering place."

Here is what needs to come down... and it will, "sooner" or later... better sooner than later anymore, eh?

We are a Federalist Republic, by legal means.

That decision has had certain unforeseeable consequences, since it was finalized way back when.

Here is how we can begin to remedy the difficulties...

Abolish:
- Electoral College
- Gerrymandering (aka "redistricting" or "reapportionment")
- Closed primaries
- Sovereign Immunity
- Imminent Domain
(Anybody interested in seeing this list keep getting longer?)

If, or since, we are a Federalist Republic now (against the better advice of so many whose blood was also shed upon our land, BTW), then let our representatives represent the people of America, and (sorry) we do not anymore give a rat's butt what their "conscience" tells them to do.

Let us no longer allow the tail to wag the dog... appreciating, of course, the splendiferous wonderment of that tail.

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Old 06-28-2005, 10:59 AM
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Post This Court Decision Spells Out

This Court Decision Spells Out very clearly the basic difference between Liberal and Conservative thought.

Conservative thought generally is for less government and less taxation.
Liberal thought is generally for more governmental controls.

This decision gives various Governments more rights to intervene into our private lives.
In other words if the Government feels that a new shopping mall is advantagous for establishing a better tax base then the rights of the individual no longer are important.
It is now the government which has the right to make decisions for us as people.
It was a liberal based decision.
However, I believe this decision is so far reaching we need a constitutional amendment detailing the boundaries of eminent domain. We do need eminent domain but it must be used very carefully and very seldom.
It may take two or three years but we do need a constitutional amendment addressing this issue since the Supreme Court has opened this great big can of worms.
I also believe that many liberals feel that this decision went too far.
And James is correct, Big Corporations will benefit from this decision and in that sense it was a "conservative" decision, but it wasn't the conservative judges who voted for it.

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Old 06-28-2005, 12:27 PM
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A socialist, communist or plain old dictatorial decree aside,...this is some pretty-scary-shit. After all, where does one go for redress over such a blatantly dictatorial nonsense? Besides, and other than A Revolution, aren't The Supremes supposed to be last resort for any and all matters of contention in America?

Also, whose to say that such nonsense might not be the last of such a courtly decreed display of omnipotent big brotherism?
Also, don't such black robed fools in the deciding majority ever bother to read The American Constitution and/or document for which they are the sworn to uphold and rule on, whenever need be?

If deciding to become fairly literate and take some reading lessons,..."They" might notice that some Amendment specifically states words to the effect that: "The Supreme Court of The United States of America must never make any laws".
Believe such has to do with Our Forefathers quite purposefully and wisely intended Separation of Branches?

Then too, and even though far from a Constitutional Expert, I just cannot believe that ANY AMERICAN WOULD SO GIVE UP THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY TO ANOTHER PRIVATE CITIZEN WITHOUT A FIGHT, even if the buyer of such PRIVATE PROPERTY were to build The Taj Mahal there instead.

Hey,...just whom-the-hell cares that The Big Brother State could collect more taxes from a Taj Mahal. I sure-as-hell don't.
I'll bet that even an Indian being so ripped-off by A Big Brother State wouldn't care either. What do you think?

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Trouble's brewing down here as mentioned by St. Paco. The idiot in question is an heir to the Exxon Mobil fortune and the Hiram Walker booze money, so once again, we have a situation where the amount of money has far exceeded the amount of brains needed to manage said $$$. There have been calls for the governor to include this item in his call for a special session of the Texas Legislature; this special session is needed since agreement couldn't be reached in the just-ended regular biannual session on school finance items. A special session, by our constitution, can only deal with the specific items as mentioned in the original "call bill" by the governor. But as strongly as folks feel around here about private property rights, and as hot as peoples' collars are about those liberals who figuratively stole private property for private gain, I strongly suspect that the bill will be passed by unanimous consent.

And what if the "big corporation" that benefits from this decision is one that traditionally supports liberal causes? Can that situation possibly be? Are all "big corporations" part of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy? Get real folks, go back and review what "big corporations" supported John "Did you know that I'm a Vietnam veteran" Kerry? It's not just scary, as Neil noted, but downright radical in the worst sort of way.
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Originally posted by SuperScout Trouble's brewing down here as mentioned by St. Paco. The idiot in question is an heir to the Exxon Mobil fortune and the Hiram Walker booze money, so once again, we have a situation where the amount of money has far exceeded the amount of brains needed to manage said $$$. There have been calls for the governor to include this item in his call for a special session of the Texas Legislature; this special session is needed since agreement couldn't be reached in the just-ended regular biannual session on school finance items. A special session, by our constitution, can only deal with the specific items as mentioned in the original "call bill" by the governor. But as strongly as folks feel around here about private property rights, and as hot as peoples' collars are about those liberals who figuratively stole private property for private gain, I strongly suspect that the bill will be passed by unanimous consent.

And what if the "big corporation" that benefits from this decision is one that traditionally supports liberal causes? Can that situation possibly be? Are all "big corporations" part of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy? Get real folks, go back and review what "big corporations" supported John "Did you know that I'm a Vietnam veteran" Kerry? It's not just scary, as Neil noted, but downright radical in the worst sort of way.
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Here in Georgia our freshman State Senator Jeff Chapman introduced a bill to rein back eminent domain laws here in Georgia and it was locked in Committee awaiting the verdict of the Supreme Court. Now that they have declared open season on individual property rights for profit of another group The Georgia Legislature is considering a fast track to approve this Bill in Atlanta . So If you all have a vote in Georgia please write your Georgia Congressman or Senator at the State Level to show your support of Individual property rights! If your respective State Legislature is considering a similar bill contact them as well (better if a Hand written letter but, email still gives some notice where the constituency stands!
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