Re: Vietnam Veteran question

If you have a need to know you -will- know. Otherwise fuck off.

--
Don Thompson

"The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision of what is before
them, glory and danger alike, and notwithstanding go out to meet it."-
Thucydides

"Men are never really willing to die except for the sake of Freedom:
Therefore they do not believe in dying completely."-
Albert Camus


"Bob" wrote in message
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> Don T wrote:
> > Interesting. It just so happens that I am a member of the Ojibway Red
> > Feather Society.
>
> Not familiar with the Ojibway Red Feather Society. Google hasn't heard
> of it either. Perhaps you might give us an explanation.
>
> Bob
>
>
> > I assume that you know what that means. As you rightly
> > discerned, I am neither an idiot nor am I content to sit back and let
> > someone say a wrong thing without poking a stick in his eye. Your, and
many
> > other "activists", main flaw is that you refuse to see exactly how you
sound
> > to someone who has a grasp of a larger picture. You refuse to see that
when
> > your particular "group" was on the winning side of the fight your group
> > members celebrated their status and relished their victories. Now that
that
> > group is on the losing side of history you all want to cry "foul" on the
> > tactics of the winning side even though your own group used those SAME
> > TACTICS while they were the winners. I beg you to open your mind to a
larger
> > truth than the one you are told by those with an agenda, go back, go way
> > back, and try to think as would those who won.
> >
> > I am,
> >
> > Mishkuganu.
> >
>
>

Don T wrote:
> If you have a need to know you -will- know. Otherwise fuck off.
>

IOW: The red feather society is a bunch of dumb shits playing hero and
pretending that they are men. Thanks for the explanation.

Bob

"Al Zeller" wrote in message
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> Mr. X wrote:
>
> > You are creating your own culture...
> >
> > A person asks a question.
>
> I kept telling my kids, when they were teens, that is as important in
> how you ask a question as is the question itself. They finally
> understand that at age 25. You apparently have never learned it. You
> seem to feel that asking questions like when you stopped beating your
> wife deserve a sensible response on our part. Fuck you and the slick you
> rode in on.

Quit a few of you want me to fuck myself. Please say something
original.

> Al Zeller
>

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:44:37 -0400, Dick Kenney
wrote:

>Don T wrote:
>> "the US "drove" Uncle Ho into the arms of the Commie bastards"
>
>he he he...let me interrupt this sour grapes whimpering...
>
>You, Don T, really need to read a history book. I suggest Duiker's
>excellent and well-respected book "Ho Chi Minh" as a start.

You, Dick Kenny, really need to really need to understand the United
States. First off, communists are murderers, every last one of them
without exception. The United States does not assist murderers unless
it is to overcome an even worse murderer.

>Not "drove", you ignorant ass. The U.S. ignored the Vietnamese (in
>particular Uncle Ho's) pleas for help, and the Vietnamese turned to other
>sources of help. The U.S. had many opportunities to be the friends of
>the Vietnamese people, who desperately wanted the help of the "leader of
>the free world". The U.S. turned it's back, then worse, eventually
>actively supported the French colonialist military.

You, you wipe ass flimsy, have the blood of millions upon your hands
because of your support for those malignant cancers.

Dick Kenney wrote:
> It's not complicated, and that is why millions of Americans (including
> many thousands of active duty GIs) joined the anti-war movement; to stop
> the murder. Americans are a good people when they know the truth.

There it is.

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:39:26 -0400, Carol Evans
wrote:

>Dick Kenney wrote:
>> It's not complicated, and that is why millions of Americans (including
>> many thousands of active duty GIs) joined the anti-war movement; to stop
>> the murder. Americans are a good people when they know the truth.
>
>There it is.

1.7 million Cambodians, one third of the population of Cambodia, were
murdered because we let communism take over Viet Nam, Cambodia and
Laos.

This blood is upon the hands of the anti-war crowd.

There it is.

"Nigel Brooks²°°³©" wrote in message
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> "Ted Gittinger" wrote in message
> news:duZMb.52369$WS1.951@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> >
> > The English and their descendants preferred to obliterate the Indians.
> >
> > ted
>
>
> I just can't take it anymore.
>
> First Michael Collins - then Braveheart -now this...
>
>
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhhh
> hhhhhhhh
>
> There that feels better - I just burned the Union Jack and flushed my
> picture of the Royal Family down the toilet.
>
> Oh oh - its 4:30 - time for tea.
>
> Nigel Brooks

There you go. Earl Grey for me, please, unless there's real coffee.

What do watercress sangwiches taste like, anyhow? And don't tell me it's
like chicken.

ted

>
>
>

Matt Osborn wrote:
> 1.7 million Cambodians, one third of the population of Cambodia, were
> murdered because we let communism take over Viet Nam, Cambodia and
> Laos.

You too need to read a history book.

The U.S. supported Pol Pot and his communist Khmer Rouge (at least
financially), because they were the enemy of the Vietnamese ("the enemy
of my enemy...", and then after losing the war to the Vietnamese the
U.S. vengefully supported the Khmer Rouge). To the everlasting shame
of the U.S., the U.S. demanded that Pol Pot be represented in the U.N. (1977? 78?).

It was the Vietnamese who invaded Cambodia (Kampuchea) and kicked out
the Khmer Rouge, thus ending the "killing fields" mass murder by the
Khmer Rouge.

None of that shit would have happened if the U.S. had minded it's own
business. The U.S. is THE cause.

Look it up, you stressed out PTSD loser...he he he...

I.O.W. you are, sadly, a fool. Passing judgment on things you know
absolutely NOTHING about. I am also initiated Ojibwa m'dewin and pipe
carrier. But you know NOTHING about those things either. Fool.

I, Mishkuganu, have spoken.

--
Don Thompson

"The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision of what is before
them, glory and danger alike, and notwithstanding go out to meet it."-
Thucydides

"Men are never really willing to die except for the sake of Freedom:
Therefore they do not believe in dying completely."-
Albert Camus


"Bob" wrote in message
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> Don T wrote:
> > If you have a need to know you -will- know. Otherwise fuck off.
> >
>
> IOW: The red feather society is a bunch of dumb shits playing hero and
> pretending that they are men. Thanks for the explanation.
>
> Bob
>
>
>

"Randy Cox" wrote in message
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>
>
> When I was young, I supported the Vietnam war because I thought we were
> fighting for freedom for the Vietnamese. We weren't!
We were. As you point out, just in a different way

> We were supporting an
> element in power that included old French colonial interest and Vietnamese
> collaborators. Now, I don't want to bash the French or theVietnamese that
> befriended them. I just want to point out that these were the people that
> we elected to support.

And were confident that they wouldn't slaughter the enemy after they won.

> I don't want to argue economic theory here. I have studied communism since
> I was in the third grade.

You have my sympathy. I studied capitalism.
>
> There are people in Vietnam that respect American history. We could have
> used that respect to help them establish a healthy Vietnam. It might have
> been a form a communism at the beginning...but when we seek to dictate how
> others organize their economies....we force them to obey us or war against
> us.
>
> I don't want anyone to obey me. I want people to explore the possibilities
> of the social contract and work out ways that each man can be free without
> trampling upon the freedoms of others.

No nation or man can be free with out fighting for it. With out the willingness to
sacrifice
your life for your freedom comes the trampling of those freedoms.

> I only note that Russia has abandoned their World Communism plans. They
> work out their own freedoms in a raw struggle even as we write these posts.
> That is a win for us.....and a win for them.
>
>
> Cry in your beer if you wish! I don't care. I'm moving on.

I'm not crying in my beer. I'm glad your moving on. Personally, I think
you are a communist who hasn't given up on the dream of dominating the
world. Just taking another path to achieve your dreams.

If I have my way, you won't.

Engineer