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Old 07-09-2003, 03:21 PM
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Thumbs up Neal Boortz Commencement Address

This is a long speech, but worth the read, whether, or not, you agree with it.
I got this from another site, and felt that it should be read here too.
Very poignant.

I am honored by the invitation to address you on this august occasion.
It's about time. Be warned, however, that I am not here to impress you;
you'll have enough smoke blown your way today. And you can bet your
tassels I'm not here to impress the faculty and administration.

You may not like much of what I have to say, and that's fine. You will
remember it though. Especially after about 10 years out there in the
real world. This, it goes without saying, does not apply to those of you
who will seek your careers and your fortunes as government employees.

This gowned gaggle behind me is your faculty. You've heard the old
saying that those who can - do. Those who can't - teach. That sounds
deliciously insensitive. But there is often raw truth in insensitivity,
just as you often find feel-good falsehoods and lies in compassion. Say
good-bye to your faculty because now you are getting ready to go out
there and do. These folks behind me are going to stay right here and
teach.

By the way, just because you are leaving this place with a diploma
doesn't mean the learning is over. When an FAA flight examiner handed me
my private pilot's license many years ago, he said, 'Here, this is your
ticket to learn.' The same can be said for your diploma. Believe me,
the learning has just begun.

Now, I realize that most of you consider yourselves Liberals. In fact,
you are probably very proud of your liberal views. You care so much. You
feel so much. You want to help so much. After all, you're a
compassionate and caring person, aren't you now? Well, isn't that just
so extraordinarily special. Now, at this age, is as good a time as any
to be a Liberal; as good a time as any to know absolutely everything.
You have plenty of time, starting tomorrow, for the truth to set in.
Over the next few years, as you begin to feel the cold breath of reality
down your neck, things are going to start changing pretty fast ..
including your own assessment of just how much you really know.

So here are the first assignments for your initial class in reality:
Pay attention to the news, read newspapers, and listen to the words and
phrases that proud Liberals use to promote their causes. Then compare
the words of the left to the words and phrases you hear from those evil,
heartless, greedy conservatives. From the Left you will hear "I feel."
>From the Right you will hear "I think." From the Liberals you will hear
references to groups --The Blacks, The Poor, The Rich, The
Disadvantaged, The Less Fortunate. From the Right you will hear
references to individuals. On the Left you hear talk of group rights;
on the Right, individual rights.

That about sums it up, really: Liberals feel. Liberals care. They are
pack animals whose identity is tied up in group dynamics.

Conservatives and Libertarians think -- and, setting aside the
theocracy crowd, their identity is centered on the individual.

Liberals feel that their favored groups, have enforceable rights to
the property and services of productive individuals. Conservatives (and
Libertarians, myself among them I might add) think that individuals have
the right to protect their lives and their property from the plunder of
the masses.

In college you developed a group mentality, but if you look closely at
your diplomas you will see that they have your individual names on them.
Not the name of your school mascot, or of your fraternity or sorority,
but your name. Your group identity is going away. Your recognition and
appreciation of your individual identity starts now.

If, by the time you reach the age of 30, you do not consider yourself
to be a libertarian or a conservative, rush right back here as quickly
as you can and apply for a faculty position. These people will welcome
you with open arms. They will welcome you, that is, so long as you
haven't developed an individual identity. Once again you will have to be
willing to sign on to the group mentality you embraced during the past
four years.

Something is going to happen soon that is going to really open your
eyes. You're going to actually get a full time job! You're also going to
get a lifelong work partner. This partner isn't going to help you do
your job. This partner is just going to sit back and wait for payday.
This partner doesn't want to share in your effort, just your earnings.

Your new lifelong partner is actually an agent. An agent representing
a strange and diverse group of people. An agent for every teenager with
an illegitimate child. An agent for a research scientist who wanted to
make some cash answering the age-old question of why monkeys grind their
teeth. An agent for some poor demented hippie who considers herself to
be a meaningful and talented artist ... but who just can't manage to
sell any of her artwork on the open market.

Your new partner is an agent for every person with limited, if any,
job skills ... but who wanted a job at City Hall. An agent for tin-horn
dictators in fancy military uniforms grasping for American foreign aid.
An agent for multi-million-dollar companies who want someone else to pay
for their overseas advertising. An agent for everybody who wants to use
the unimaginable power of this agent's for their personal enrichment and
benefit.

That agent is our wonderful, caring, compassionate, oppressive
government. Believe me, you will be awed by the unimaginable power this
agent has. Power that you do not have. A power that no individual has,
or will have. This agent has the legal power to use force, deadly force
to accomplish its goals.

You have no choice here. Your new friend is just going to walk up to
you, introduce itself rather gruffly, hand you a few forms to fill out,
and move right on in. Say hello to your own personal one ton gorilla. It
will sleep anywhere it wants to.

Now, let me tell you, this agent is not cheap. As you become
successful it will seize about 40% of everything you earn. And no, I'm
sorry, there just isn't any way you can fire this agent of plunder, and
you can't decrease it's share of your income. That power rests with
him, not you.

So, here I am saying negative things to you about government! Well, be
clear on this: It is not wrong to distrust government. It is not wrong
to fear government. In certain cases it is not even wrong to despise
government for government is inherently evil. Yes ... a necessary evil,
but dangerous nonetheless ... somewhat like a drug. Just as a drug that
in the proper dosage can save your life, an overdose of government can
be fatal.

Now let's address a few things that have been crammed into your minds
at this university. There are some ideas you need to expunge as soon as
possible. These ideas may work well in academic environment, but they
fail miserably out there in the real world.

First, that favorite buzz word of the media, government and academia:
Diversity!

You have been taught that the real value of any group of people - be
it a social group, an employee group, a management group, whatever, is
based on diversity. This is a favored liberal ideal because diversity is
based not on an individual's abilities or character, but on a person's
identity and status as a member of a group. Yes it's that liberal group
identity thing again.

Within the great diversity movement group identification - be it
racial, gender based, or some other minority status - means more than
the individual's integrity, character or other qualifications.

Brace yourself. You are about to move from this academic atmosphere
where diversity rules, to a workplace and a culture where individual
achievement and excellence actually count. No matter what your
professors have taught you over the last four years, you are about to
learn that diversity is absolutely no replacement for excellence,
ability, and individual hard work. From this day on every single time
you hear the word "diversity" you can rest assured that there is
someone close by who is determined to rob you of every vestige of
individuality you possess.

We also need to address this thing you seem to have about "rights."
We have witnessed an obscene explosion of so-called "rights" in the last
few decades, usually emanating from college campuses.

You know the mantra: You have the right to a job. The right to a place
to live. The right to a living wage. The right to health care. The right
to an education. You probably even have your own pet right - the
right to a Beemer, for instance, or the right to have someone else
provide for that child you plan on downloading in a year or so.

Forget it. Forget those rights! I'll tell you what your rights are!
You have a right to live free, and to the results of your labor. I'll
also tell you have no right to any portion of the life or labor of
another.

You may, for instance, think that you have a right to health care.
After all, Hillary said so, didn't she? But you cannot receive health
care unless some doctor or health practitioner surrenders some of his
time - his life - to you. He may be willing to do this for compensation,
but that's his choice. You have no "right" to his time or property. You
have no right to his or any other person's life or to any portion
thereof.

You may also think you have some "right" to a job; a job with a living
wage, whatever that is. Do you mean to tell me that you have a right to
force your services on another person, and then the right to demand that
this person compensate you with their money? Sorry, forget it. I am sure
you would scream if some urban outdoorsmen (that would be "homeless
person" for those of you who don't want to give these less fortunate
people a romantic and adventurous title) came to you and demanded his
job and your money.

The people who have been telling you about all the rights you have are
simply exercising one of theirs - the right to be imbeciles.

Their being imbeciles didn't cost anyone else either property or time.
It's their right, and they exercise it brilliantly.

By the way, did you catch my use of the phrase "less fortunate" a bit
ago when I was talking about the urban outdoorsmen? That phrase is a
favorite of the Left. Think about it, and you'll understand why.

To imply that one person is homeless, destitute, dirty, drunk, spaced
out on drugs, unemployable, and generally miserable because he is "less
fortunate" is to imply that a successful person - one with a job, a home
and a future - is in that position because he or she was "fortunate."
The dictionary says that fortunate means "having derived good from an
unexpected place." There is nothing unexpected about deriving good from
hard work. There is also nothing unexpected about deriving misery from
choosing drugs, alcohol, and the street.

If the Left can create the common perception that success and failure
are simple matters of "fortune" or "luck," then it is easy to promote
and justify their various income redistribution schemes. After all, we
are just evening out the odds a little bit.

This "success equals luck" idea the liberals like to push is seen
everywhere. Democratic presidential candidate Richard Gephardt refers to
high-achievers as "people who have won life's lottery." He wants you to
believe they are making the big bucks because they are lucky.

It's not luck, my friends. It's choice. One of the greatest lessons I
ever learned was in a book by Og Mandino, entitled "The Greatest
Secret in the World." The lesson? Very simple: "Use wisely your power of
choice."

That bum sitting on a heating grate, smelling like a wharf rat? He's
there by choice. He is there because of the sum total of the choices he
has made in his life. This truism is absolutely the hardest thing for
some people to accept, especially those who consider themselves to be
victims of something or other - victims of discrimination, bad luck,
the system, capitalism, whatever. After all, nobody really wants to
accept the blame for his or her position in life. Not when it is so much
easier to point and say, "Look! He did this to me!" than it is to look
into a mirror and say, "You S.O.B.! You did this to me!"

The key to accepting responsibility for your life is to accept the
fact that your choices, every one of them, are leading you inexorably to
either success or failure, however you define those terms.

Some of the choices are obvious: Whether or not to stay in school.
Whether or not to get pregnant. Whether or not to hit the bottle.
Whether or not to keep this job you hate until you get another
better-paying job. Whether or not to save some of your money, or saddle
yourself with huge payments for that new car.

Some of the choices are seemingly insignificant: Whom to go to the
movies with. Whose car to ride home in. Whether to watch the tube
tonight, or read a book on investing. But, and you can be sure of this,
each choice counts. Each choice is a building block - some large, some
small. But each one is a part of the structure of your life. If you
make the right choices, or if you make more right choices than wrong
ones, something absolutely terrible may happen to you. Something
unthinkable. You, my friend, could become one of the hated, the evil,
the ugly, the feared, the filthy,, the successful, the rich.

Quite a few people have made that mistake.

The rich basically serve two purposes in this country. First, they
provide the investments, the investment capital, and the brains for the
formation of new businesses. Businesses that hire people. Businesses
that send millions of paychecks home each week to the un-rich.

Second, the rich are a wonderful object of ridicule, distrust, and
hatred. Few things are more valuable to a politician than the envy most
Americans feel for the evil rich.

Envy is a powerful emotion. Even more powerful than the emotional
minefield that surrounded Bill Clinton when he reviewed his last batch
of White House interns. Politicians use envy to get votes and power. And
they keep that power by promising the envious that the envied will be
punished: "The rich will pay their fair share of taxes if I have
anything to do with it.' The truth is that the top 10% of income earners
in this country pays almost 50% of all income taxes collected. I shudder
to think what these job producers would be paying if our tax system were
any more "fair."

You have heard, no doubt, that in the rich get richer and the poor get
poorer. Interestingly enough, our government's own numbers show that
many of the poor actually get richer, and that quite a few of the rich
actually get poorer. But for the rich who do actually get richer, and
the poor who remain poor ... there's an explanation -- a reason. The
rich, you see, keep doing the things that make them rich; while the poor
keep doing the things that make them poor.

Speaking of the poor, during your adult life you are going to hear an
endless string of politicians bemoaning the plight of the poor. So, you
need to know that under our government's definition of "poor" you can
have a $5 million net worth, a $300,000 home and a new $90,000 Mercedes,
all completely paid for. You can also have a maid, cook, and valet, and
$1 million in your checking account, and you can still be officially
defined by our government as "living in poverty." Now there's something
you haven't seen on the evening news.

How does the government pull this one off? Very simple, really. To
determine whether or not some poor soul is "living in poverty," the
government measures one thing -- just one thing. Income. It doesn't
matter one bit how much you have, how much you own, how many cars you
drive or how big they are, whether or not your pool is heated, whether
you winter in Aspen and spend the summers in the Bahamas, or how much is
in your savings account. It only matters how much income you claim in
that particular year. This means that if you take a one-year leave of
absence from your high-paying job and decide to live off the money in
your savings and checking accounts while you write the next great
American novel, the government says you are 'living in poverty." This
isn't exactly what you had in mind when you heard these gloomy
statistics, is it?

Do you need more convincing? Try this. The government's own statistics
show that people who are said to be "living in poverty" spend more than
$1.50 for each dollar of income they claim. Something is a bit fishy
here. Just remember all this the next time Peter Jennings puffs up and
tells you about some hideous new poverty statistics.

Why has the government concocted this phony poverty scam? Because the
government needs an excuse to grow and to expand its social welfare
programs, which translates into an expansion of its power. If the
government can convince you, in all your compassion, that the number of
"poor" is increasing, it will have all the excuse it needs to sway an
electorate suffering from the advanced stages of Obsessive-Compulsive
Compassion Disorder. I'm about to be stoned by the faculty here. They've
already changed their minds about that honorary degree I was going to
get. That's OK, though.

I still have my Ph.D. in Insensitivity from the Neal Boortz Institute
for Insensitivity Training. I learned that, in short, sensitivity sucks.
It's a trap. Think about it - the truth knows no sensitivity. Life can
be insensitive. Wallow too much in sensitivity and you'll be unable to
deal with life, or the truth. So, get over it.

Now, before the dean has me shackled and hauled off, I have a few
random thoughts.

You need to register to vote, unless you are on welfare. If you are
living off the efforts of others, please do us the favor of sitting down
and shutting up until you are on your own again. When you do vote,
your votes for the House and the Senate are more important than your
vote for president. The House controls the purse strings, so concentrate
your awareness there. Liars cannot be trusted, even when the liar
is the president of the United States. If someone can't deal honestly
with you, send them packing. Don't bow to the temptation to use
the government as an instrument of plunder. If it is wrong for you to
take money from someone else who earned it -- to take their money by
force for your own needs -- then it is certainly just as wrong for you
to demand that the government step forward and do this dirty work for
you. Don't look in other people's pockets. You have no business
there. What they earn is theirs. What your earn is yours. Keep it that
way. Nobody owes you anything, except to respect your privacy and your
rights, and leave you the hell alone. Speaking of earning, the
revered 40-hour work week is for losers. Forty hours should be
considered the minimum, not the maximum. You don't see highly successful
people clocking out of the office every afternoon at five. The losers
are the ones caught up in that afternoon rush hour. The winners drive
home in the dark. Free speech is meant to protect unpopular
speech. Popular speech, by definition, needs no protection.

Finally (and aren't you glad to hear that word), as Og Mandino wrote,
Proclaim your rarity. Each of you is a rare and unique human
being. Use wisely your power of choice. Go the extra mile ...
drive home in the dark.

Oh, and put off buying a television set as long as you can.

Now, if you have any idea at all what's good for you, you will get the
hell out of here and never come back.

Class dismissed.
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I just got accepted to American InterContinental University (AIU).
I'll be going after my BA in Business Administration.
I'll have my BA, if all goes as planned, in 13 months.
I am supposed to start in August.
This should be a very intense program, 5 week classes, with 1 week break after 2 classes, and then the cycle starts over again.
Not to worry though, I won't be influenced too much by liberal propaganda!
I already know what real life is like!
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Default Another point of view!

Neil Boortz is about of full-of-$hit as a Christmas Goose!

And SQUAKS about as loud as one as well!

Here's some REAL facts for you folks.

Bogus Conservative Idea #1. Cutting taxes stimulates the economy and leads to increased revenue. A corollary of this is that higher taxes strangle economic growth.
Of course, we now have two distinct examples of tax cuts that directly led to deficits. The conservatives say that those deficits were caused by a failure to reduce spending. But that contradicts the theory of "voodoo economics". Economic stimulation is supposed to drive up revenues and pay for the tax cuts. Hasn't happened yet.
Then there is the experience following Clinton's deficit reduction act. You will recall that act contained the "largest tax increase in history". The result was a dramatic increase in revenue -- far more pronounced than the eventual increases in revenue under Reagan, that basically tracked increases in GDP. The conservatives say that economic growth drove up those revenues, but again this undercuts voodoo economics. Clinton raised tax rates on the top, and the economy boomed anyway.
"Voodoo economics" is dead as a hammer. Even conservatives are now reduced to arguing, "well, deficits aren't so bad".
And of course, the "facts" that justify the liberal interpretation are found at a conservative web site. Perhaps you've heard of it. It's called the "Heritage Foundation".
Bogus Conservative Idea #2. Deficits "aren't so bad". There are several ways to debunk this nonsense.
First of all, tax cuts that lead to deficits aren't tax cuts at all. They're tax deferrments. They postpone the day when today's expenditure must be paid for. Sooner or later, the bill has to be paid -- with interest. Whatever evil results from raising taxes, sooner or later you will have no choice. In fact, we can think of Clinton tax increases as Reagan's tax increases, since we had deferred paying them while Reagan was President. Unfortuneately that isn't really accurate, since the increase in debt under Reagan is still with us -- Dubya having decided that paying down our debts wasn't a priority.
Second is the drain deficits place on finance capital. It's actually somewhat hard to fathom why deficit driven tax cuts would stimulate the economy. Government apending takes money out of the private economy one way or the other, either as taxes, or as money spent buying government bonds. Only the bonds have to be repaid with interest. Meanwhile, some economists believe that deficit spending drives up interest rates. This is supported by the fact that structural interest rates were much higher under Reagan and Bush. Clinton enjoyed the lowest interest rates in a generation, after he balanced the budget..
But if you doubt the eventual inflationary pressure of deficits, you need to wake up to an ominous fact of life. The dollar is weakening against foreign currencies. US bonds have been a traditional "safe haven" investment for years. A weakening dollar changes that. If the dollar weakens too much, the govenrment may be begging hat in hand for finance capital, raising its bond yields, with other interest rates following suit.
Can you say inflation? Can you say fiscal crisis from hell?
Bogus Conservative Idea #3. Liberalism is "destroying America". Other variants include, "liberals are "collectivists", "socialists", "communists" "Stalinists". Insert your totalitarian reference here. If this were just rhetorical hyperbole, I wouldn't pay any attention to it. But some of these conservatives appear to actually believe it. In fact, I have presented the facts -- you know the things we liberals don''t have any of -- and I still see this utter hogwash mouthed by conservatives.
First of all it helps to know what "communism" really is. A few highlights. Communist countries have no or very little private business. The Communist manifesto calls for the abolition of land ownership. Centrally planned "command economies" are a central feature of Communist governments. And of course, Communist governments all have a "gulag" like police state.
So where is America's gulag? How many political prisoners did FDR, Truman, LBJ or Bill Clinton have? What was the name of our central planning agency? And when have Democrats even advocated -- much less passed -- anything like abolition of land ownership. Our FHA has in fact broadened land ownership, not restricted it. And how many personal fortunes have been built since the beginning of the New Deal in 1933. Where are your "facts" conservatives, to support this "liberals are really communists" crapola?
As for destroying the country, consider these unemployment numbers. This is the unemployment rate on the last day of the Truman, Johnson and Clinton administrations, respectively. 2.5%, 3.5% 4.5%. Under Clinton's presidency, unemployment dropped below 5 percent for the first time in 27 years. Yes, I kow about Jimmy Carter, he left with 7.5%, the same percentage he came in with. Now look at unemployment on the last day of the Hoover, Eisenhower, Ford, Reagan, and BushI adminstrations. 25%, 6.5%, 7.5%, 5.5%, 7.5%. For Hoover thats twenty five not two point five. Only Reagan left office with lower unemployment than he inherited, and his finishing unemployment rate pales beside that of Democratic administrations. Pitiful isn't it?
And of course, we know about the explosion in deficit spending under Reagan, BushI and now BushII. Under Clinton, he ended his presidency with a budget surplus, low interest rates, low inflation, and low unemployment -- the same conditions that prevailed in every other Democratic administration except for one. Kennedy/Johnson sent men to the moon, in the age of the Detroit "muscle car". The modern suburban middle class was born after the war, when Democrats controlled Congress and occasionally the White House. New Deal and Great Society initiatives are so popular, even George W. Bush praises them.
All of which proves that we liberals sure are doing a lousy job of "destroying America". Patriotic conservatives on the other hand, what with high unemployment and huge deficits, seem to be doing a much better job -- of "destroying America" that is.
Ouch!.
Bogus Conservative Idea #4. "Trickle down" economics. This is the underlying philosophy behind those "voodoo" tax cuts. Its simple really. Put more money in the pockets of the rich, and they will invest in business, creating jobs. So why didn't it work in the wake of Dubya's tax cuts? And why didn't Clinton's tax increases shut down economic growth? [Those are facts, conservatives. Sorry, if you can't handle them.]
The reason it didn't work is simple. It's horseshit. Investors don't invest in new businesses, expanding businesses, new equipment, research and development or anything else if there's no demand. Demand drives the economy, not supply. Why would you invest in greater production capacity if no one is out there with money to spend? Besides, there are plenty of other investments that send no money into increasing production facilities or new businesses. You can invest in commodities, foreign exchange, and government bonds. Even the stock market is mostly an aftermarket, with people buying stock owned by other people. No money goes into business expansion there. And of course, you can "short sell", that is, bet on the market to decline.
If the economic history of the United States proves one thing it is that money in the pockets of little man stimulates the economy. Why do you think there was so much prosperity under Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson and Clinton? Their policies put money in the pockets of the people on the bottom, creating demand and stimulating investment. Wealth doesn't "trickle down", it flows up from the bottom.
Bogus Conservative Idea #5. The wage earner depends on the wealthy investor for his prosperity. There is nothing more personally entertaining to me than to listen to conservatives talk about "wealth". They seem to get almost misty eyed about the whole concept. They think that "wealth" is something real -- and that the first responsibility of the government is to protect the "wealth" of the "haves".
But what is "wealth", really? What is the tangible value of that picture of Benjamin Franklin in your pocket? What is "stock", "equity", "debt". Hell, what are property rights? Here's the answer conservatives. Refute it if you can. "Wealth" is nothing more than a set of abstract ideas that organize distribution of what labor produces. Labor is the thing that is real.
Everything used by the person with symbols of wealth is produced by a wage earner The tools and equipment he uses are produced by a wage earner. The buildings are produced by wage earners. The roads that lead to your house, your office, or your factory are produced by "wage earners". Wealthy investors who call themselves "producers" make me laugh.
That's why Adam Smith said, "the annual labor of a nation is the fund which supplies the necessaries and conveniences of life that a nation annually consumes." It is also why Abraham Lincoln said, "Labor is the superior of capital and ought to be given much the greater consideration." Labor -- and not those symbols and social conventions called "wealth" -- is the engine of the economy. Leave it to the conservatives to figure out why the man who owns pieces of paper gets whatever he wants, while the man who actually produces has take what he can get.
Bogus Conservative Idea #6. Government is "bad" and has no role in creating wealth or prosperity. Of course, the conservative, who fails to see the all-important role of labor in the creation of "wealth", likewise fails to perceive the central role of government in its creation. It is certainly true -- as conservatives point out -- that government doesn't do the work of production. But government does create the "rights" the property owner relies on the take "ownership" of what somebody else produces. Government creates, enforces and regulates the symbols and concepts of "wealth". It creates property rights, a court system to enforce those rights, the currency, the banking system, unique forms of business organization called "corporations", securities, contract rights, and indeed the entire legal infrastructure of capitalism.
You don't hear conservatives complaint about those functions of government. They just claim that those are the only functions of government. Government can do nothing, to hear the conservatives tell it, to benefit the people who do all the actual work of production.
And of course, the conservatives completely overlook all of the other infrastructure created by government. They don't perceive the value of something as simple as a system of roads and highways in creating business opportunities. Every single day, conservatives -- like all of the rest of us -- make use of technology created by or with the assistance of government. Their computers, TV sets, telephones all make use of microchips first developed by engineers working for government contractors. They make use of communication satellites, placed in orbit by government engineers and techniicians. They use materials and technology developed at public universities with government funding.
And they are completely oblivious to all of it. They don't even appreciate all of the commerce and economic stimulation made possible by government assistance and infrastructure for the benefit of wage earners. What sort of economy would we have without the minimum wage and unions creating vast markets for goods produced in capitalist business enterprises. What would our construction industry look like without FHA guaranteed mortgages?
But if they're still not convinced, here is the question they never answer. Show me one "minimalist government" paradise. Just one. We have them. There are places with no social security, no welfare, no unions, no minimum wage, no OSHA, no environmental protection. There are places where the only thing the laws and the government do is protect the interests of the wealthy. They have names like "Guatemala", "Bolivia" and "Chad". Every first world economy, without exception, has a substantial public sector. Every one. Show me one that doesn't conservatives, or the shut the hell up.
Bogus Conservative Idea #7. Conservative believe in "less government". As you should be able to see, conservatives believe in "less government" for them, more government for you. They believe in less government for the already prosperous. They also believe in more spending for the pentagon, more "discretion" for the FBI and CIA. They never saw a military intervention they didn't like.
But just let the government tell them to put scrubbers on their smokestacks, or pay their help a living wage. "It's tyranny, I tell you. ENOUGH'S ENOUGH!"
Bogus Conservative Idea #8. Conservatives are "patriotic" whereas liberals are "traitors". Of all of the conservative posturing, this is the most obnoxious. Conservatives utterly fail to appreciate the role of labor in the creation of fortunes. They fail to see the role of government. They fail to acknowledge that the government that creates and enforces their rights, can also create and enforce rights for other people as well.
No, the conservative has it all figured out that you, the wage earner, are "on your own". Ask them what will happen when there are no unions, no minimum wage, no OSHA requirements, no safety net, and in general no government infrastructure that favors anybody but them. What will happen to living standards for American wage earners.
Your living standard will decline. It seems the conservative thinks that you are "overpaid" and "pampered". So they don't have any problem with American corporations moving overseas to avoid taxes, enviornmental regulations, and paying a living wage. They also don't any problem with free trade agreements like GATT that can only be described as a surrender of American sovereignty. They also support those deficits, funded by bonds, that represent a transfer of wealth from American taxpayers to wealthy bond holders to the tune 300 billion dollars a year.
But conservatives don't believe in a system of government that works to benefit the vast majority of Americans who work for a living. They believe in a system of government that benefits and handful of people who are independently wealthy. So while they pursue policies that benefit the few at the expense of the many, they wrap themselves in the flag, spout selective clauses from the Constitution, put their hands over their hearts and pledge allegiance to "the flag".
They say they love America. But what do they love? The Constitution? Not the one WE live under. They love a wooden constitution as it applied to the country before the invention of the telegraph. Do they love the United States Government? Only the agencies of it that help THEM. The agencies that do anybody any good are "communist". And as for the people of this country, well they don't have very much use for a good three quarters of them -- starting with the half of the country who are Democrats. And we know what they think about our "pampered" wage earners?
Some patriots, these cheap-labor conservatives. Ship American jobs to third world dictatorships, finance the government with massive debt, saddle future generations with the obligation to pay interest to tomorrows millionaires, drive down wages and living standards for ordinary working Americans -- and then call the liberals "traitors". But don't worry. People are waking up.
They are starting to catch on that conservative ideas are bogus

Let Neil Boortz refute THOSE FACTS!
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Truth hurts, don't it Gimpy?
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Bogus socialist idea Numero Uno...we know what is best...we will take all of your hard earned money tax it 5 ways to Christmas and distribute any damned way we see fit ...so there..

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The TRUTH does hurt alright! It hurts the cheap-labor, neo-numbskull ideas and programs espoused by the ultra-right-wing dingbats Neil Boortz, Rush Limburger, Neil Hannity, Ann Coulter and so on, and so on!

Let them (or you or anyone else for that matter) try and refute any of the "facts" that I've posted. You CAN'T! Because it's ALL TRUE!

Don't worry, I've got MORE facts for y'all later if this isn't enough to convince you that idiots like Boortz are full of crapola!

More later from your friendly, neighborhood "compassionate conservative basher" (I just LOVE to "bash" those guys!) and pontificator of all that is TRUE & JUST -- hisseff,-------------------------Thomas Jeffrson Gimpster!
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Why do you insist on taking my hard earned money and giving it to someone else?
Keep your ideals Gimpy, just give them all your money, and leave mine the hell alone!
What's mine is mine. Leave it that way. All you liberals should get together and pool your own damn cash and give it away, now there's an idea. :re:
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