Blame Game

"40 years ago this country went down the rabbit hole in Vietnam and
thousands died.
I fear we're going down a rabbit hole once again."
--Errol Morris




http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040301&s=corn

But Kay was incorrect. Not everybody was mistaken on the question of Iraq's
WMDs. Not UN inspectors, including Hans Blix, who worried about Saddam
Hussein's WMD capabilities but questioned whether discrepancies in Iraq's
accounting meant stockpiles existed. Not US intelligence analysts who argued
that critical pieces of evidence were not solid. And there were many
nongovernment experts who disputed the Bush Administration's WMD
allegations. It was Bush, Dick Cheney, Colin Powell and other aides who
missed the mark. Bush, in response to mounting pressure, has created a
commission to study the prewar intelligence, but there is already a record
supporting the serious charge that he and his colleagues made assertions
before the invasion that were not supported by the intelligence they possessed.

Administration officials and other war backers have pointed to an October
2002 National Intelligence Estimate to justify their prewar statements about
Iraq's unconventional weapons. An NIE is supposed to be the summation of the
intelligence community's best information on a subject, and this one did
say, "Baghdad has chemical and biological weapons." This assessment, it
seems at the moment, was a historic failure, and it remains to be determined
if it was the result of good-faith errors or political pressure and
manipulation. But even this NIE--which included qualifiers and acknowledged
serious disagreements within the intelligence community--did not contain
evidence to support the more dramatic allegations that Bush put forward. A
review of the declassified "key judgments" of the NIE and other pieces of
intelligence--including a speech Director of Central Intelligence George
Tenet gave at Georgetown University on February 5 to defend his
agency--clearly shows that Bush and his national security team overstated
what now appears to have been overstated intelligence.
--

Of Course Oklahoma Joe, as you have indicated in your posts, you are a
liberal and consequently support the liberals. David Corn is also a
Liberal and shares your views, as can be attested by reading his
article. That's the American way. But as is the other side of the isle,
we GOP folks tend to not tell lies about the other side, that is not
until we run out of the truth, and then we do, admittedly. I don't think
we will be running out of the truth about Kerry any time soon.
This too is the American way.

Where are you from in Oklahoma, I was in the 45th for a short while. And
stationed in Altus for seven years, one at Tinker. (PE)

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Posted by HOPPIE, 30 Years Active Duty ,13 Campaigns Vietnam, Life
Member; Am.Lgn,DAV,VFW,AFSA

>Subject: Re: Blame Game
>From: William Boyd

>
>Where are you from in Oklahoma, I was in the 45th for a short while. And
>stationed in Altus for seven years, one at Tinker. (PE)

You are assuming Joe is an individual and not a Democratic off shore agent
being paid to post here.
There are folks sitting at computer banks who's only responsibility is to
post pre fab articles on newsgroups all day long. They have dozens of freebie
accounts and various aliases. Joe is one of them which explains why he never
responds to anything written here. I don't even think he/they read what they
post.

DLovick195 wrote:

>>Subject: Re: Blame Game
>>From: William Boyd
>
>
>>Where are you from in Oklahoma, I was in the 45th for a short while. And
>>stationed in Altus for seven years, one at Tinker. (PE)
>
>
> You are assuming Joe is an individual and not a Democratic off shore agent
> being paid to post here.
> There are folks sitting at computer banks who's only responsibility is to
> post pre fab articles on newsgroups all day long. They have dozens of freebie
> accounts and various aliases. Joe is one of them which explains why he never
> responds to anything written here. I don't even think he/they read what they
> post.
>
>
By God I did learn something to day, and thanks a lot. I guess
considering I at one time lived up there and have a son and two grand
sons still there I would have been talking to Joe until I was blue in
the face. (PE)

Papa Echo

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Posted by HOPPIE, 30 Years Active Duty ,13 Campaigns Vietnam, Life
Member; Am.Lgn,DAV,VFW,AFSA

And you know this how ? got anything to back that up ?




On 04 Mar 2004 02:42:37 GMT, dlovick195@aol.com (DLovick195) wrote:

--->There are folks sitting at computer banks who's only responsibility is
to post pre fab articles on newsgroups all day long. They have dozens of
freebie accounts and various aliases.

Oh C'mon - most of the folks in this newsgroup are involved, and it pays
pretty good too. They pay by the amount of stuff you can put out. It's
even better if you can start off a thread, and then respond to it.

A good example would be the "It the guns stupid" thread from a couple of
years ago (take a google at it and see). One of our operatives got a
contract from the NRA to sew confusion and distrust in the gun grabbers
ranks. The thread went on for ever - died - was resurrected etc. He made a
fortune off it. The "Bush is a deserter" and variants posts had some
promise - but it looks like they probably will not reach the potential we
had hoped. However; we are certainly pinning our hopes on the "Kerry
denigrates Vietnam Vets" threads we have started.

The way to get into this business (which is quite lucrative) is to make a
few decent test type postings. If the various political committees like
them - they will reach out for you and offer you their business. We have
contracts with both committees at the present - and in fact have also
received contracts to counter particularly effective threads we initiated
ourselves. In some ways that is rather self defeating - because you can
stop a thread before it gets up to it's full revenue potential.

That being said - you have to take the good with the bad too. We lost our
asses on our Sharpton and Kucinich contracts.
--
Nigel Brooks


"Yaketyak" wrote in message
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> And you know this how ? got anything to back that up ?
>
>
>
>
> On 04 Mar 2004 02:42:37 GMT, dlovick195@aol.com (DLovick195) wrote:
>
> --->There are folks sitting at computer banks who's only responsibility is
> to post pre fab articles on newsgroups all day long. They have dozens of
> freebie accounts and various aliases.
>

lmao

You mean Kucinich stopped paying his royalties ? I would never have signed a
contract with Big Al after his performance with the Tawanna deal.





On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 08:47:37 -0600, "Nigel Brooks" wrote:

--->Oh C'mon - most of the folks in this newsgroup are involved, and it pays
--->pretty good too. They pay by the amount of stuff you can put out. It's
--->even better if you can start off a thread, and then respond to it.
--->
--->A good example would be the "It the guns stupid" thread from a couple of
--->years ago (take a google at it and see). One of our operatives got a
--->contract from the NRA to sew confusion and distrust in the gun grabbers
--->ranks. The thread went on for ever - died - was resurrected etc. He
made a
--->fortune off it. The "Bush is a deserter" and variants posts had some
--->promise - but it looks like they probably will not reach the potential
we
--->had hoped. However; we are certainly pinning our hopes on the "Kerry
--->denigrates Vietnam Vets" threads we have started.
--->
--->The way to get into this business (which is quite lucrative) is to make
a
--->few decent test type postings. If the various political committees like
--->them - they will reach out for you and offer you their business. We
have
--->contracts with both committees at the present - and in fact have also
--->received contracts to counter particularly effective threads we
initiated
--->ourselves. In some ways that is rather self defeating - because you can
--->stop a thread before it gets up to it's full revenue potential.
--->
--->That being said - you have to take the good with the bad too. We lost
our
--->asses on our Sharpton and Kucinich contracts.