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Old 07-25-2003, 07:56 PM
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Default Well, we LOST!

I guess all the efforts to get folks to contact their representatives went for naught!

We got screwed again!

But, don't worry cause "Help is on the way", as G. W. Bush said during the 2000 presidential campaign refering to his pledge to improve and properly fund the VA. Yeah right!

I'll have a "roll call" vote available ASAP ---but from what I could tell on C-span today it went pretty much along "party" lines. With democrats opposing the measure and the majority of republicans voteing to pass this SHIT!

Here's what the head of the VFW has to say about it.

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VFW Chief Charges House with Betrayal; VA Funding Amendment Rejected


Washington, D.C.,July 25, 2003 --The U.S. House of Representatives today through a procedural maneuver struck down an attempt to restore $1.8 billion in veterans' health-care funding even though the House leadership had assured veterans and the nation that this would be a budget that "meets the needs of America's veterans."

On Monday the House Appropriations Committee approved a VA-HUD subcommittee recommendation for a meager $1.4 billion increase for veterans' health care, a level that is a full $2 billion less than the House leadership had agreed to provide for this purpose

"Those who voted today in favor of this rule governing final action on the VA-HUD appropriation are guilty of betraying this nation's veterans in need," VFW Commander-in-Chief Ray Sisk said.

"For the Congress, in this case the House, not to appropriate this amount is a clear betrayal of the assurances made to America's veterans by the House Republican leadership," Sisk said. "It is beyond my belief that a Congress that voted to send Americans to war would not financially support the health care system that cares for our nation's veterans."

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Get out the "vaseline" guys & gals---cause you just got ANOTHER "screwing" by the republican leadership in the Congress & the whitehouse!

Welcome to GEE-DUBYA'S way of doing "business"!!

I hate to be the one to say --- I told you so----but I WILL anyway!

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Old 07-26-2003, 12:10 PM
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GIMPY et al

"It is beyond my belief that a Congress that voted to send Americans to war would not financially support the health care system that cares for our nation's veterans."

Friend Gimpy, this says it all!!

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Old 07-28-2003, 03:08 PM
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Default The "Roll call vote" I promised everyone

Vote Tally below
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Yea : 215 Members
Don Young (R-AK)
Robert Aderholt (R-AL)
Spencer Bachus (R-AL)
Jo Bonner (R-AL)
Terry Everett (R-AL)
Michael Rogers (R-AL)
John Boozman (R-AR)
Jeff Flake (R-AZ)
Trent Franks (R-AZ)
J.D. Hayworth (R-AZ)
Jim Kolbe (R-AZ)
Rick Renzi (R-AZ)
John Shadegg (R-AZ)
Mary Bono (R-CA)
Ken Calvert (R-CA)
Christopher Cox (R-CA)
Randy Cunningham (R-CA)
John Doolittle (R-CA)
David Dreier (R-CA)
Elton Gallegly (R-CA)
Wally Herger (R-CA)
Duncan Hunter (R-CA)
Darrell Issa (R-CA)
Jerry Lewis (R-CA)
Howard McKeon (R-CA)
Gary Miller (R-CA)
Devin Nunes (R-CA)
Doug Ose (R-CA)
Richard Pombo (R-CA)
George Radanovich (R-CA)
Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA)
Ed Royce (R-CA)
William Thomas (R-CA)
Bob Beauprez (R-CO)
Scott McInnis (R-CO)
Marilyn Musgrave (R-CO)
Thomas Tancredo (R-CO)
Christopher Shays (R-CT)
Robert Simmons (R-CT)
Michael Bilirakis (R-FL)
Ginny Brown-Waite (R-FL)
Ander Crenshaw (R-FL)
Lincoln Diaz-Balart (R-FL)
Mario Diaz-Balart (R-FL)
Tom Feeney (R-FL)
Mark Foley (R-FL)
Porter Goss (R-FL)
Katherine Harris (R-FL)
Ric Keller (R-FL)
John Mica (R-FL)
Jeff Miller (R-FL)
Adam Putnam (R-FL)
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL)
E. Clay Shaw (R-FL)
Cliff Stearns (R-FL)
Dave Weldon (R-FL)
C.W. Bill Young (R-FL)
Max Burns (R-GA)
Michael Collins (R-GA)
Nathan Deal (R-GA)
Phil Gingrey (R-GA)
Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
Jack Kingston (R-GA)
John Linder (R-GA)
Charles Norwood (R-GA)
Steve King (R-IA)
Tom Latham (R-IA)
Jim Leach (R-IA)
Jim Nussle (R-IA)
C.L. Otter (R-ID)
Mike Simpson (R-ID)
Judy Biggert (R-IL)
Philip Crane (R-IL)
J. Dennis Hastert (R-IL)
Henry Hyde (R-IL)
Timothy Johnson (R-IL)
Mark Kirk (R-IL)
Ray LaHood (R-IL)
Donald Manzullo (R-IL)
John Shimkus (R-IL)
Jerry Weller (R-IL)
Dan Burton (R-IN)
Chris Chocola (R-IN)
Mike Pence (R-IN)
Mark Souder (R-IN)
Jim Ryun (R-KS)
Todd Tiahrt (R-KS)
Ernie Fletcher (R-KY)
Ron Lewis (R-KY)
Anne Northup (R-KY)
Harold Rogers (R-KY)
Richard Baker (R-LA)
Jim McCrery (R-LA)
W.J. Tauzin (R-LA)
David Vitter (R-LA)
Wayne Gilchrest (R-MD)
Dave Camp (R-MI)
Vernon Ehlers (R-MI)
Peter Hoekstra (R-MI)
Joseph Knollenberg (R-MI)
Thaddeus McCotter (R-MI)
Candice Miller (R-MI)
Michael Rogers (R-MI)
Nick Smith (R-MI)
Fred Upton (R-MI)
Gil Gutknecht (R-MN)
Mark Kennedy (R-MN)
John Kline (R-MN)
Jim Ramstad (R-MN)
Todd Akin (R-MO)
Roy Blunt (R-MO)
Jo Ann Emerson (R-MO)
Sam Graves (R-MO)
Kenny Hulshof (R-MO)
Charles Pickering (R-MS)
Roger Wicker (R-MS)
Dennis Rehberg (R-MT)
Cass Ballenger (R-NC)
Richard Burr (R-NC)
Howard Coble (R-NC)
Robin Hayes (R-NC)
Walter Jones (R-NC)
Sue Myrick (R-NC)
Charles Taylor (R-NC)
Doug Bereuter (R-NE)
Tom Osborne (R-NE)
Lee Terry (R-NE)
Charles Bass (R-NH)
Jeb Bradley (R-NH)
Michael Ferguson (R-NJ)
Rodney Frelinghuysen (R-NJ)
Scott Garrett (R-NJ)
Frank LoBiondo (R-NJ)
Christopher Smith (R-NJ)
Steve Pearce (R-NM)
Heather Wilson (R-NM)
James Gibbons (R-NV)
Jon Porter (R-NV)
Sherwood Boehlert (R-NY)
Vito Fossella (R-NY)
Sue Kelly (R-NY)
Peter King (R-NY)
Thomas Reynolds (R-NY)
John Sweeney (R-NY)
James Walsh (R-NY)
John Boehner (R-OH)
Steve Chabot (R-OH)
Paul Gillmor (R-OH)
David Hobson (R-OH)
Steven LaTourette (R-OH)
Bob Ney (R-OH)
Michael Oxley (R-OH)
Rob Portman (R-OH)
Deborah Pryce (R-OH)
Ralph Regula (R-OH)
Patrick Tiberi (R-OH)
Michael Turner (R-OH)
Tom Cole (R-OK)
Ernest Istook (R-OK)
Frank Lucas (R-OK)
John Sullivan (R-OK)
Greg Walden (R-OR)
Philip English (R-PA)
Jim Gerlach (R-PA)
Jim Greenwood (R-PA)
Melissa Hart (R-PA)
Timothy Murphy (R-PA)
John Peterson (R-PA)
Joseph Pitts (R-PA)
Don Sherwood (R-PA)
Bill Shuster (R-PA)
Pat Toomey (R-PA)
Curt Weldon (R-PA)
J. Gresham Barrett (R-SC)
Henry Brown (R-SC)
Jim DeMint (R-SC)
Joe Wilson (R-SC)
William Janklow (R-SD)
Marsha Blackburn (R-TN)
John Duncan (R-TN)
William Jenkins (R-TN)
Zach Wamp (R-TN)
Joe Barton (R-TX)
Henry Bonilla (R-TX)
Kevin Brady (R-TX)
Michael Burgess (R-TX)
John Carter (R-TX)
Larry Combest (R-TX)
John Culberson (R-TX)
Tom DeLay (R-TX)
Kay Granger (R-TX)
Ralph Hall (D-TX)
Jeb Hensarling (R-TX)
Sam Johnson (R-TX)
Pete Sessions (R-TX)
Lamar Smith (R-TX)
Rob Bishop (R-UT)
Chris Cannon (R-UT)
Eric Cantor (R-VA)
Jo Ann Davis (R-VA)
Thomas Davis (R-VA)
Randy Forbes (R-VA)
Virgil Goode (R-VA)
Bob Goodlatte (R-VA)
Edward Schrock (R-VA)
Frank Wolf (R-VA)
Jennifer Dunn (R-WA)
Doc Hastings (R-WA)
George Nethercutt (R-WA)
Mark Green (R-WI)
Thomas Petri (R-WI)
Paul Ryan (R-WI)
F. James Sensenbrenner (R-WI)
Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV)
Barbara Cubin (R-WY)


Nay : 212 Members
Robert Cramer (D-AL)
Artur Davis (D-AL)
Marion Berry (D-AR)
Mike Ross (D-AR)
Raul Grijalva (D-AZ)
Ed Pastor (D-AZ)
Joe Baca (D-CA)
Xavier Becerra (D-CA)
Howard Berman (D-CA)
Lois Capps (D-CA)
Dennis Cardoza (D-CA)
Susan Davis (D-CA)
Calvin Dooley (D-CA)
Anna Eshoo (D-CA)
Sam Farr (D-CA)
Bob Filner (D-CA)
Jane Harman (D-CA)
Michael Honda (D-CA)
Tom Lantos (D-CA)
Barbara Lee (D-CA)
Zoe Lofgren (D-CA)
Robert Matsui (D-CA)
Juanita Millender-McDonald (D-CA)
George Miller (D-CA)
Grace Napolitano (D-CA)
Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
Lucille Roybal-Allard (D-CA)
Linda Sanchez (D-CA)
Loretta Sanchez (D-CA)
Adam Schiff (D-CA)
Brad Sherman (D-CA)
Hilda Solis (D-CA)
Fortney Stark (D-CA)
Ellen Tauscher (D-CA)
Mike Thompson (D-CA)
Maxine Waters (D-CA)
Diane Watson (D-CA)
Henry Waxman (D-CA)
Lynn Woolsey (D-CA)
Diana DeGette (D-CO)
Joel Hefley (R-CO)
Rosa DeLauro (D-CT)
Nancy Johnson (R-CT)
John Larson (D-CT)
Michael Castle (R-DE)
F. Allen Boyd (D-FL)
Corrine Brown (D-FL)
Jim Davis (D-FL)
Peter Deutsch (D-FL)
Alcee Hastings (D-FL)
Kendrick Meek (D-FL)
Robert Wexler (D-FL)
Sanford Bishop (D-GA)
John Lewis (D-GA)
Denise Majette (D-GA)
Jim Marshall (D-GA)
David Scott (D-GA)
Neil Abercrombie (D-HI)
Ed Case (D-HI)
Leonard Boswell (D-IA)
Jerry Costello (D-IL)
Danny Davis (D-IL)
Rahm Emanuel (D-IL)
Lane Evans (D-IL)
Luis Gutierrez (D-IL)
Jesse Jackson (D-IL)
Bobby Rush (D-IL)
Janice Schakowsky (D-IL)
Julia Carson (D-IN)
Baron Hill (D-IN)
John Hostettler (R-IN)
Peter Visclosky (D-IN)
Dennis Moore (D-KS)
Jerry Moran (R-KS)
Ken Lucas (D-KY)
Edward Whitfield (R-KY)
Rodney Alexander (D-LA)
William Jefferson (D-LA)
Chris John (D-LA)
Michael Capuano (D-MA)
William Delahunt (D-MA)
Barney Frank (D-MA)
Stephen Lynch (D-MA)
Edward Markey (D-MA)
James McGovern (D-MA)
Marty Meehan (D-MA)
Richard Neal (D-MA)
John Olver (D-MA)
John Tierney (D-MA)
Roscoe Bartlett (R-MD)
Benjamin Cardin (D-MD)
Elijah Cummings (D-MD)
Steny Hoyer (D-MD)
C.A. Ruppersberger (D-MD)
Chris Van Hollen (D-MD)
Albert Wynn (D-MD)
Thomas Allen (D-ME)
Michael Michaud (D-ME)
John Conyers (D-MI)
John Dingell (D-MI)
Dale Kildee (D-MI)
Carolyn Kilpatrick (D-MI)
Sander Levin (D-MI)
Bart Stupak (D-MI)
Betty McCollum (D-MN)
James Oberstar (D-MN)
Collin Peterson (D-MN)
Martin Olav Sabo (D-MN)
William Clay (D-MO)
Richard Gephardt (D-MO)
Ike Skelton (D-MO)
Gene Taylor (D-MS)
Bennie Thompson (D-MS)
Frank Ballance (D-NC)
Bob Etheridge (D-NC)
Mike McIntyre (D-NC)
Brad Miller (D-NC)
David Price (D-NC)
Melvin Watt (D-NC)
Earl Pomeroy (D-ND)
Robert Andrews (D-NJ)
Rush Holt (D-NJ)
Robert Menendez (D-NJ)
Frank Pallone (D-NJ)
Bill Pascrell (D-NJ)
Donald Payne (D-NJ)
Steven Rothman (D-NJ)
Tom Udall (D-NM)
Shelley Berkley (D-NV)
Gary Ackerman (D-NY)
Tim Bishop (D-NY)
Joseph Crowley (D-NY)
Eliot Engel (D-NY)
Maurice Hinchey (D-NY)
Amory Houghton (R-NY)
Steve Israel (D-NY)
Nita Lowey (D-NY)
Carolyn Maloney (D-NY)
Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY)
John McHugh (R-NY)
Michael McNulty (D-NY)
Gregory Meeks (D-NY)
Jerrold Nadler (D-NY)
Major Owens (D-NY)
Jack Quinn (R-NY)
Charles Rangel (D-NY)
Jose Serrano (D-NY)
Louise McIntosh Slaughter (D-NY)
Edolphus Towns (D-NY)
Nydia Velazquez (D-NY)
Anthony Weiner (D-NY)
Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
Marcy Kaptur (D-OH)
Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)
Tim Ryan (D-OH)
Ted Strickland (D-OH)
Stephanie Tubbs Jones (D-OH)
Brad Carson (D-OK)
Earl Blumenauer (D-OR)
Peter DeFazio (D-OR)
Darlene Hooley (D-OR)
David Wu (D-OR)
Robert Brady (D-PA)
Mike Doyle (D-PA)
Chaka Fattah (D-PA)
Joseph Hoeffel (D-PA)
Tim Holden (D-PA)
Paul Kanjorski (D-PA)
John Murtha (D-PA)
Todd Platts (R-PA)
Patrick Kennedy (D-RI)
James Langevin (D-RI)
James Clyburn (D-SC)
John Spratt (D-SC)
Jim Cooper (D-TN)
Lincoln Davis (D-TN)
Harold Ford (D-TN)
John Tanner (D-TN)
Chris Bell (D-TX)
Lloyd Doggett (D-TX)
Chet Edwards (D-TX)
Martin Frost (D-TX)
Charles Gonzalez (D-TX)
Gene Green (D-TX)
Ruben Hinojosa (D-TX)
Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX)
Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-TX)
Nicholas Lampson (D-TX)
Solomon Ortiz (D-TX)
Ron Paul (R-TX)
Silvestre Reyes (D-TX)
Ciro Rodriguez (D-TX)
Max Sandlin (D-TX)
Charles Stenholm (D-TX)
Jim Turner (D-TX)
Jim Matheson (D-UT)
Rick Boucher (D-VA)
James Moran (D-VA)
Bobby Scott (D-VA)
Bernard Sanders (I-VT)
Brian Baird (D-WA)
Norman Dicks (D-WA)
Jay Inslee (D-WA)
Rick Larsen (D-WA)
Jim McDermott (D-WA)
Adam Smith (D-WA)
Tammy Baldwin (D-WI)
Ron Kind (D-WI)
Jerry Kleczka (D-WI)
David Obey (D-WI)
Alan Mollohan (D-WV)
Nick Rahall (D-WV)

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Looks like we had a total of ELEVEN (11) republicans that DID have a conscience and had the BALLS to go against "party lines". Seems awfully clear to ME which political party SUPPORTS veterans now, HUH?

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