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Old 11-19-2006, 02:45 PM
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Why didn't we take care of these problematic people in the early 1980's. When we got the 52 Hostages back to the states safely we should have carpet bombed these rag head sons of bitches!


Iran Spies on Aircraft Carrier
Deutsche Presse-Agentur | November 13, 2006
Tehran - Iran's state television reported Sunday that a drone belonging to the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) had managed to spy on a U.S. aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf waters.

"The drone could successfully carry out its mission and the US fighter pilots failed to reach it," said the news network Khabar, which showed a minute of aerial footage of an aircraft carrier sailing in the waters.

The report neither gave no details of the vessel or when the footage was taken.

The IRGC started 10-day maneuvers code-named "Grand Prophet 2" on November 2 throughout the country and offshore in the Gulf and Sea of Oman with the testing of various missiles, including the Shahab-2 which can carry cluster warheads, as well as the more powerful Shahab-3 missile.

Washington termed the exercises as proof that Iran continues to be "a source of potential instability."

"This sort of seeming sabre rattling on the part of Iran I think just underscores the fact that Iran is at this point in time, with this regime, not a source of stability in the region," the U.S. State Department Spokesman Sean McCormack said last week.
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:16 AM
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Next fight after Iraq, Iran. This is not going to stop any time soon.
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Spying on an aircraft carrier? Thought those squids could camoflage that great big ship better than that! Seriously, what can a drone spot on one of our carriers that is a threat to our national security? If the drone posed a threat to the physical safety of the ship or her crew, why wasn't the drone shot out of the air?
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Kinda tough to hide a 1000' plus boat any where on the open sea. Don't have a clue what there drone might have "seen." Most any information on any Carrier in the fleet can be found on the Internet with the possible except of what nukes she may have on board. Even then it would be hard to tell the real thing from the training dummies, from what I remember they are the same thing only the dummies aren't armed or loaded with any nuke material.
If the drone were to come close aboard I'm sure a Phalanx gun would make short work of it.

MK 15 Phalanx Close-In Weapons System (CIWS)
The MK 15 Phalanx Close-In Weapons System (CIWS - pronounced "sea-whiz") is a fast-reaction, rapid-fire 20-millimeter gun system that provides US Navy ships with a terminal defense against anti-ship missiles that have penetrated other fleet defenses. Designed to engage anti-ship cruise missiles and fixed-wing aircraft at short range, Phalanx automatically engages functions usually performed by separate, independent systems such as search, detection, threat evaluation, acquisition, track, firing, target destruction, kill assessment and cease fire. Phalanx underwent operational tests and evaluation onboard USS Bigelow in 1977, and exceeded maintenance and reliability specifications. Phalanx production started in 1978 with orders for 23 USN and 14 Foreign Military Sales (FMS) systems.
Phalanx is a point-defense, total-weapon system consisting of two 20mm gun mounts that provide a terminal defense against incoming air targets. CIWS, without assistance from other shipboard systems, will automatically engage incoming anti-ship missiles and high-speed, low-level aircraft that have penetrated the ship primary defense envelope. As a unitized system, CIWS automatically performs search, detecting, tracking, threat evaluation, firing, and kill assessments of targets while providing for manual override. Each gun mount houses a fire control assembly and a gun subsystem. The fire control assembly is composed of a search radar for surveillance and detection of hostile targets and a track radar for aiming the gun while tracking a target. The unique closed-loop fire control system that tracks both the incoming target and the stream of outgoing projectiles gives CIWS the capability to correct its aim to hit fast-moving targets, including ASMs.

The gun subsystem employs a gatling gun consisting of a rotating cluster of six barrels. The gatling gun fires a 20mm subcaliber sabot projectile using a heavy-metal (either tungsten or depleted uranium) 15mm penetrator surrounded by a plastic sabot and a light-weight metal pusher. The gatling gun fires 20mm ammunition at either 3,000 or 4,500 rounds-per-minute with a burst length of continuous, 60, or 100 rounds.

CIWS has been a mainstay self defense system aboard nearly every class of ship since the late 70?s. It was originally designed to defeat low altitude antiship cruise missiles (ASCMs) and was called the block 0. As antiship cruise missiles became more complex in maneuvers and ability to be detected, and warfare areas moved from open ocean to littoral environments, CIWS has evolved to meet the threat.

Block 1 incorporated a new search antenna to detect high altitude missiles, improved search sensitivity, increased the ammunition available for firing by 50 percent, a pneumatic gun drive which increased the firing rate to 4500 rounds per minute, and started using tungsten ammunition as well as depleted uranium. Block I improvements provide increased elevation coverage, larger magazine space for increased round capacity, a variable and higher gun fire rate, and improved radar and processing capabilities.

Block 1A incorporated a new High Order Language Computer (HOLC) to provide more processing power over the obsolete general purpose digital computer, improved fire control algorithms to counter maneuvering targets, search multiple weapons coordination to better manage engagements, and an end-to-end testing function to better determine system functionality.

Block 1B Phalanx Surface Mode (PSUM) incorporates a side mounted Forward Looking Infrared Radar (FLIR) which enables CIWS to engage low slow or hovering aircraft and surface craft. Additionally, the FLIR assists the radar in engaging some ASCM?s bringing a greater chance of ship survivability. Block 1B uses a thermal imager Automatic Acquisition Video Tracker (AAVT) and stablilization system that provide surface mode and electro-optic (EO) angle track. These Block 1B enhancements will allow day/night detection capability and enable the CIWS to engage small surface targets, slow-moving air targets, and helicopters.
Baseline 2C improvements provide an integrated multi-weapon operations capability. During integrated operations, the command system controls CIWS sensors, target reports, mode employment, and doctrine. The sensors are utilized to provide 360 degree search and track coverage, while providing track data to, and receiving designations from, the Command system. This CIWS installation includes a conversion kit for each weapon group to facilitate ease and safety of maintenance; the "maintenance enclosure" kit installs the below-deck equipment for a gun mount in a prefabricated enclosure with the mount located above it.




Specifications
Primary Function Anti-ship missile defense
Contractor Raytheon Systems Company
(formerly Hughes Missile Systems Company and purchased from General Dynamics Pomona Division in 1992)
Weight 12,500 pounds (5,625 kg)
Later models 13,600 pounds (6,120 kg)
Range Classified
Gun Type M-61A1 Gatling
Type of Fire 3,000 rounds per minute
- Later models 4,500 rounds/min
(starting 1988 production, Pneumatic Gun Drive)
Magazine Capacity 989 rounds
Later models 1,550 rounds
Caliber 20mm
Ammunition Armor Piercing Discarding Sabot (APDS),
Depleted Uranium or Tungsten sub-caliber penetrator.
Sensors Self-contained search and track radar
Search Radar Ku-band; digital MTI
Track Radar Ku-band; pulse Doppler monopulse
E/O Sensor FLIR Imaging System with Automatic ACQ Tracker
Fire Control Director with closed-loop spotting
Gun Drive Pneumatic
Mount Drive Electric
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Enjoyed reading, again, abou the Phalanx system! Saw a demo of the system, and it is a real pea-bringer. Seascamp had another interesting write-up about it not long ago.

I sincerely hope that the captain of that flattop has carte blanche to do whatever it takes to defend his ship. If he was operating in international waters, and a drone of any nation appeared within a range that he considered either a potential or an imminent threat to his ship, he would be able to execute offensive operations without having to ask for permission from Foggy Bottom.
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When I was on the Kitty Hawk CV-63 during the Iranian Hostage Crisis, We transisted from the Pacific Ocean in to the Indian Ocean at night, the way the Lights were configured on the Carrier it made it look like a Frigate went through not the Kitty Hawk. The next day however, off our Port Quarter we could see a Russian Trawler on the horizon.
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