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Old 11-25-2005, 05:08 PM
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I was watching O Riely the other day and he is advocating the US government paying for the education of slane soldiers kids, that died in Iraq.
This will never work.
Who gets the benifit? KIAs only or does people that die in acidents in Iraq qualify, What about the last Iraq war , do there kids get the free college? how about Vietnam, Korea, WW2, or just any soldier that dies while in the service, his kids get a free education. One last thing , what about the next conflict.
Wont work Bill. Nice thought but NU-ah.

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Old 11-26-2005, 02:01 AM
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http://www.gibill.va.gov/education/c35.htm
O'Riely's just a bit out of touch and uninformed.
If you're service connected your dependents are entitled to educational benifits and you don't get much more SC than KIA. Your children should be able to get education benifits. My oldest son is now going to college which he pays for himself but he's also given a monthly allowance from the VA which just about pays for all of his education tuitions and fees as long as he maintains a certain point average and carries a full time schedule at the school which is required to verify his enrollment every month that he's in school.
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Old 11-26-2005, 09:51 AM
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Stick gotta be 100% service connected to get the kids covered. However, State Department of Veterans affaris might not require 100% and might help with tuition.
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Old 11-26-2005, 12:27 PM
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Anyway sliced,...death in Service to Country is much worse than 100% Service Connected Disability,...whether caused in combat or just accidental. Still,...100% is a 100%, and dead is dead.

Therefore, and in either context and since only luck-of-draw determines whether anyone would be 100% Disabled or Killed while Serving Country,...I honestly believe that America ACTUALLY OWES ( since certainly earned) THE VERY BEST (or 100%+) for the offspring of such. Such being the quite honorable thing to do since nowadays all volunteers, and no one gets conscripted or drafted to protect, defend and serve US ALL.

For lower disability percentages of military survivors, naturally lower percentages of assistance for their offspring should be required. After all, working and additional income is possible.

Hey,...that's just my thinking and which really isn't worth zilch in the slightest. Just like most everything else in America, such will get politicized to death and/or will probably have to add some illegal aliens or foreigners into the proposed free schooling mix or equation,...for such to become politically acceptable, politically-correct and/or deemed non-racist by our political lords or political warlords (re. Congressional Warfare Micro-Managers).

Besides, and since usually NOTHING BUT THE BEST is so common for the offspring of those WE HIRE (albeit elect) & PAY to serve us politically and quite safely,...shouldn't the children of those having volunteered to die if need be for America,...BE TREATED JUST AS WELL?????? I sure-as-hell think so. As is,...not even close to fair.

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Old 11-27-2005, 11:27 AM
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I here what your saying and agree, BUUUUUT. How far back do you go with The plan. Do you just go to the curent war or go back to the Revolution?
Unless you include all sevice deaths anytime, your going to piss someone off because there kid didn't get the benny and his kid did.
Can you imagin the cost for all service deaths anytime, there kids get a free college education

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Old 11-27-2005, 11:29 AM
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Yeah 39mto39g Over 58,000 killed in Nam, how many of them are kids of Fathers killed in Nam, in WWII over 100,000, the list could go on and on.
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Old 11-27-2005, 12:14 PM
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The past is the past whether for laws or realities,...
and that's that. Most things aren't retroactive.

People before me got The GI Bill. Great.

Was no GI Bill during my time, and was just Tough Luck
for myself and most of my buddies.

Sometime after, GI Bill reinstated. Great for them.

That's just how things are, and if tomorrow
it were made into law that now pedophiles
would be executed,...no-way-in-hell would
those pedophiles already behind bars,...
be executed. That's what's called: "Great Luck".

So then, let's talk nowadays and/or about or
present War on Terrorism, and not past conflicts.
Does anyone honestly think it fair for victimized
civilian families to fair better than victimized
military families? I sure-as-hell-don't.

Besides, why on earth should most all surviving
children of: "9/11" be able to afford; "Ivy League" if
and when wanted,...and surviving military
CANNOT???

Such seems awfully-damn-strange to me,...
and especially since The 9/11 Victims are exactly why
The U.S. Military is suffering casualties of war TODAY.

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Old 11-27-2005, 02:05 PM
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The war on terror.
We went into Iraq to get rid of Sadom, We went into Irag Because 14 resolutions from the UN..

The war in Afganistan is the war that was started because of Terror not Iraq.

So Afganistan is the Solders families you would like to help?

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Old 11-28-2005, 07:59 AM
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Families of Afghan Casualties also,...since also same war
DECLARED ON AMERICA,...BY The Terrorists
and/or all terrorist nations/supporters.

Besides, isn't it sort-of military insulting and silly
financially treating families of civilian or non-combattant
victims of warfare MUCH BETTER, than the families
of those victimized similarly,...while differently fighting and
giving life and limb to PROTECT & DEFEND ALL AMERICANS?

I sure-as-hell think so, since takes no courage
whatsoever to be a victim in general (just bad timing),
and honestly believe courage should be rewarded
much better,...HOWEVER & WHENEVER POSSIBLE.

Guess I'm just not that overly-sensitive and/or
politically-correct? MORE SO into: "Duty, Honor, Country"
and rewarding the families of such TRUE Heroes of
The War against Terrorism,...MORE SO.

Besides, "They" surely and at minimum earned such a preference.
Don't you think?

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Old 11-28-2005, 12:00 PM
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The problem is not that we helped the trade center people its where do you draw the line on who we help in the military. They joined the military and nowhere in the recruting office does it say your kids get a free education if you get killed. And the number of people in the Trade center was a small number as to the number of military people . If you only give this benifit to the Curent Iraq military just what would you think that the kids of the previous Iraq war would say.
There was a line drawn as to who got the benny from the trade center, there is no line unless you want to be unfair with just giveing the benny to the current Iraq people.
But what you and I say about this don't mean squat, we just get to pay for the decission that may or may not be made.,

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