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Old 08-20-2011, 11:50 AM
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Default 1CAV's: "Honesty is greatly appreciated"

While browsing as a guest on PF-2 to see if could find out why so many old veterans have deserted the original patriotfiles.com or PF-1, I stumbled onto a truly weird explanation by 1CAVCCO15MED.

Though quite silly expecting all veterans to think alike & agree on things (especially about Dems & Obama), his honesty is greatly appreciated.

Found this part of his short posting on General Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:19am or: "I haven't given up on PF 1, I just don't want to deal with Niel and Darrelsjoy" & "They are always the same",...absolutely amazing!

The absurdity of D-Joy & I (truths & realities also) being hard to deal with aside, I can't speak for Joy. But, I found his comparison quite complimentary.

Besides, I've never seen anyone on Patfiles being forced to: "DEAL WITH" anyone, in the first place. Isn't his & others jumping ship more so a likeminded or usually a clique thing, anyway?

Forums where everyone totally agrees with everyone else on site are B-o-o-oring, at best. Also, if not wanting any conversations that don't totally agree with you & likeminded, say so. Such would at least be open & forthright.

Then too, any believing selves better, wiser & basically superior to other members here aren't forced discussing or debating anything with those deemed inferior here on Patfiles. So, what's-the-big-deal? Why bail out this great site?

Sure, David's site has been corrupted & still is under attack by QUITE SELECTIVE Free Speech deniers/hackers. But, security here seems to be getting better & better against such a stubbornly troublesome breed of crud.

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Old 08-21-2011, 06:49 PM
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Why browse? Why not just log on and ask them?


Neil your posts are all about freedom and patriotism while chiding those that choose to exercise their right to assemble on another website with like minded Veterans and call them a clique.


Isn't it true you prefer this website because you feel comfortable here? Not to mention the fact that David built a website second to none in terms of design and ease of use that is now the top military history site on the net. Does that make you part of clique or are you just exercising your freedom to be where you feel most comfortable?


"Also, if not wanting any conversations that don't totally agree with you & likeminded, say so."


Well, he did and you're still not satisfied. (at least in reference to being with like minded folks.) (Doc is the last person to ask anyone to totally agree with him)


"Such would at least be open & forthright"


I don't know how much more open & forthright you want him to be. He posted his opinion on an open forum that is the fall back site for PF that he knows you have access to. Why should he post the same info twice?


You're the man with all the questions. If you don't believe you are close enough to the source that has the answers to your questions why not log on over there and ask them?

Just askin....
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Old 08-22-2011, 02:14 PM
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Default RE: "Just askin..."

This being sort-of-a-test since wasted too much time already trying to answer you this morning, Arrow (site's gremlins, saboteurs or whomever made it impossible),...I will try it this time much shorter or piecemeal. Hope it works.

Regardless, I Chide nor will ever Chide any choosing their: "Right to assemble on another website with likeminded Veterans". Veterans, just like all other Americans can hang-out with those preferred & avoid those whom they damn well please.

Still, I find any likeminded group of Veterans or even some civilian: "Clique" using darrelsjoy & myself as some lame excuse for steering clear of patriotfiles.com, quite lame & petty at best.

If we're so bad,...confront us. It's an Open forum. Don't act like some civilians do.

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Old 08-22-2011, 09:34 PM
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Neil,

I’m sorry but you have a couple of things wrong here. Doc Fred did not say you and Joy were bad. He said you were always the same. You took it as a compliment so what’s the fuss? Doc is very well read with varied interest. News reports and political commentary even from different sources are generally predictable. In fact one might say they are always the same.

Next up is your use of the word clique to describe a Band of Brothers. With all due respect, Neil, that is very offensive to those of us that know the life stories of these old Warriors.

“All of them to a man have paid their dues serving in country during the Vietnam War. Everyone of them continue to serve each other and other Veterans and their families any way they can. They bury their brothers that are dying long before their time, console the families and encourage each other through debilitating illness. They are doing what they do best laying down their lives for each other.” Arrow…out
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Old 08-23-2011, 10:19 AM
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Default Arrow,

Even though not many Exceptionally Brave & Courageous Men of old WWII EASY COMPANY/506th PIR/101st AIRBORNE or: "Band of Brothers" are still with us, I pretty-much agree with all you last responded.

However, all my writings about political scum: "Are predictable" & "Always the same"??? Get Real. You or anyone falsely stating such is actually worse than: "Bad", to me.

Regardless, back to piecemeal responding to your previously asking: "Why browse"? "Why not just log on and ask them"?

One reason for not logging onto "Their" or your preferred site would be that what's being discussed HERE RIGHT NOW. Why keep reasons for site desertions secret from all the many loyal members remaining here on original patriotfiles.com

My solely posting here, the entire membership can at least somewhat understand why old members of patriotfiles.com chose comradery, joking & even serious discussions elsewhere.

Also, why would I even want to question ANY whom find me not up to their high standards?

Besides, 1CAV...or Fred's initial honesty was more than enough info for me to pass on members here, unaware of what had been Group (not Clique ) transpired.

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Old 08-30-2011, 01:36 PM
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Since so many viewing this thread must also be wondering why I or any would even consider posting any queries on a competitive site (especially to unfriendlies) as Arrow suggested, let me say this.

"Life is to short", and why go looking for unfriendly BS or unwarranted grief from any believing selves better?

Also, it's just not in my nature to be herdlike or pied-piper led away by-the-nose from what: "David built a website second to none in terms of design and case of use that is now the top military history site on the net", according to Arrow (no doubt many others also).

Besides, and again regarding that: "Ask them",...why waste the time? Why help out any on a competing site get more viewers than usual?

Then too, wouldn't it be quite stupid of me to ask one (re. 1CAV...) or any whom obviously consider themselves Better & Superior to both darellsjoy & myself, ABOUT ANYTHING?

Sorry, folks. But, I'm just not that naive or easily suckered (stupid either).

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Default Arrow,

Why did you make such-a-big-deal about or find the word: "Clique" so offensive?

Betcha that most every Legion, VFW or whatever type Veteran Posts in America have like-minded Cliques. Same goes for all fraternities and even computer sites, for that matter.

Besides, and just because any clique doesn't like what some other members do (or not), is certainly no reason to skip-out-to or start up another Legion or VFW Post or website next door.

The proper, correct & honorable thing to do Instead,...would be to Instead confront those LESSERS you dislike & believe unworthy of associating with.

Hey,...you never know?
Maybe even I might be convinced to stop knockin: "Criminally Illegal Aliens" &
Big Brother: "Dems/Socialists/Marxists/Communists/Progressives* posing as Liberals"?


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*Progressives: What Communist Party once called selves when outlawed in America.
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Old 09-12-2011, 06:49 AM
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While at it and since bringing the subject of: "Progressives" to the forefront, don't many ruling elite of USA's Officialdom even realize how lowly that word & ideology is considered by many here knowledgeable about America's Old Communist Party? Apparently not.

Wasn't all that long ago that heard Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton quite pridefully babble that she & associates were proud to be PROGRESSIVES. Absolutely Amazing!

Back when The Communist Party was deemed illegal here in America, they shrewdly renamed selves as some-sort-of Labor Party/Union/Movement,...A-A-N-N-ND that also quite deceptive label of: "PROGRESSIVES".

Sure, nowadays some current administration advisors also instead quite pridefully state having been longtime Communists, and still are. But, SO WHAT?!?!

It's historically proved that solely Big Brother Governments & affiliated benefit greatly from communism, marxism or PROGRESSIVE dictates. Whereas The People just pay Dearly (sooner or later) for such.

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Since no others care posting anything else here anymore, I thought bringing back my previous expose' on a quite strangely snobbish or superior mindset displayed & mass exodus from Patfiles by some Honorable Veterans, to be quite appropriate.

Plus, I just cannot believe that I or Joy (or any) could scare off ANY Veterans from ANYWHERE.

Besides, was/is female veteran Arrow the only one with guts enough to defend those many being foolishly led-by-the-nose to leave patriotfiles.com,...even though her excuses for such seemed/seem pretty-damn-weird & petty by any standard.

Also, Arrow defending a mass site snobbery basically reminded me of that TV commercial. You know? That one where the school girls (following their leader) all get up from the table with their trays, when the new girl in school sits down with her tray to eat.

Whatever and in fairness, I guess that even school girls have: "Freedom to be where most comfortable", as Arrow so defended those veterans previously alluded to?

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Let's keep the record straight. I'm not a veteran.

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