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Old 02-14-2009, 02:40 AM
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Old 02-14-2009, 04:56 AM
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And irony of all ironies, if a company was operated like Da Dims run (into the ground, BTW) this country, the company would be broke in 2 weeks. Wait a minute!! What am I saying??? We ARE broke, and the debt is increasing even as I type. Remember how the whiners and snivelers complained when Bush ran up a deficit, mostly in fighting a war that kept their sorry and ungrateful asses safe? It was all Oh woe is me, the deficit is so bad, and he inherited a surplus, blah, blah blah.

Now, what are they doing? Applauding The BAstard and his socialistic spending, by being too stupid, too lazy, and too emperious to ever READ the fookin' bill before they bowed down to their Baal.

Thank God we had some people, primarily Republicans who had the cajones to vote against this worst piece of spending legislation in history.
Democrats who voted for it are nothing more than gutless wonders, intellectual eunuchs.
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Default How the 'porkulus thingie' eally works!

Three contractors are bidding to fix a broken fence at the White House. One is from Chicago, another is from Tennessee, and the third is from Minnesota.

All three go with a White House official to examine the fence. The
Minnesota contractor takes out a tape measure and does some measuring, then works some figures with a pencil. "Well," he says, "I figure the job will run about $900: $400 for materials, $400 for my crew $100 profit for me."

The Tennessee contractor also does some measuring and figuring, then says, "I can do this job for $700: $300 for materials, $300 for my crew and $100 profit for me"

The Chicago contractor doesn't measure or figure, but leans over to the White House official and whispers, "$2,700."

The official, incredulous, says, "You didn't even measure like the other guys! How did you come up with such a high figure?"

The Chicago contractor whispers back, "$1000 for me, $1000 for you, and we hire the guy from lace Tennesseel to fix the fence."

"Done!" replies the government official.

And that, my friends, is how the new stimulus plan will work.



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Yeah, and the Chitown contractor has a crew of union mobsters to ensure that the Tennessee guy will do it on time and on budget.
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Obama calls stimulus bill a ’major milestone;’ says it’s just the beginning
By David Espo, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Saturday, February 14, 2009


WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama, savouring his first major victory in Congress, said Saturday that newly passed $787 billion economic stimulus legislation marks a "major milestone on our road to recovery."

Speaking in his weekly radio and Internet address, Obama said, "I will sign this legislation into law shortly, and we’ll begin making the immediate investments necessary to put people back to work doing the work America needs done."

At the same time, he cautioned, "This historic step won’t be the end of what we do to turn our economy around, but rather the beginning. The problems that led us into this crisis are deep and widespread, and our response must be equal to the task."

The bill passed Congress on Friday on party-line votes, allowing Democratic leaders to deliver on their promise of clearing the legislation by mid-February.

Obama "now has a bill to sign that will create millions of good-paying jobs and help families and businesses stay afloat financially," said Sen. Max Baucus, a Montana Democrat who was a leading architect of the measure.

"It will shore up our schools and roads and bridges, and infuse cash into new sectors like green energy and technology that will sustain our economy for the long term," he added in a statement.

Hours earlier, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell offered a different prediction for a bill he said was loaded with wasteful spending.

"A stimulus bill that was supposed to be timely, targeted and temporary is none of the above," he said in remarks on the Senate floor. "And this means Congress is about to approve a stimulus that’s unlikely to have much stimulative effect."

Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski, in the Republican radio address Saturday, contended Democrats settled "on a random dollar amount in the neighbourhood of $1 trillion and then set out to fill the bucket."

In a struggle lasting several weeks, legislators in the two political parties both emphasized they wanted to pass legislation to revitalize the economy and ease frozen credit markets. But the plan that the administration and its allies eventually came up drew the support of only three Republicans in Congress - moderate Sens. Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe of Maine and Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania.

Their support was critical, though, in helping the bill squeak through the Senate on a vote of 60-38, precisely the number needed for passage. Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown cast the 60th vote in favour in a nearly deserted Senate, hours after the roll call began. He arrived after a flight aboard a government plane from Ohio, where he was mourning the death of his mother earlier in the week.

The House vote was 246-183.

The legislation, among the costliest ever considered in Congress, provides billions of dollars to aid victims of the recession through unemployment benefits, food stamps, medical care, job retraining and more. Tens of billions are ticketed for the states to offset cuts they might otherwise have to make in aid to schools and local governments, and there is more than $48 billion for transportation projects such as road and bridge construction, mass transit and high-speed rail.

Democrats said the bill’s tax cuts would help 95 per cent of all Americans, much of the relief in the form of a break of $400 for individuals and $800 for couples. At the insistence of the White House, people who do not earn enough money to owe income taxes are eligible, an attempt to offset the payroll taxes they pay.

In a bow to political reality, legislators included $70 billion to shelter upper middle-class and wealthier taxpayers from an income tax increase that would otherwise hit them, a provision that the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said would do relatively little to create jobs.

Also included were funds for two of Obama’s initiatives, the expansion of computerized information technology in the health-care industry and billions to create so-called green jobs the administration says will begin reducing the country’s dependence on foreign oil.
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Most bills are not read. The staff does all the "work".


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I'm just scared of what's hiding behind the pork.
Everyone's so focused on that, they're ignoring
1. The health care plan. Yikes.
2. The MILLIONS of dollars (billions even?) allotted for President B.O. as 'discretionary spending'. What horrors could he unleash on us without anyone to question his decisions?
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