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ONLY US Recon, LRRP, Ranger, Special Forces or Special Operations Unit to Rcv 2 PUCs
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The Legendary Chinese Bandit Recon LRRP Team 1st Bn (ABN) 8th Cav 1965-66...Laying Down FIRST Tracks in the Central Highlands...the ONLY US Recon, LRRP, Ranger, Special Forces or Special Operations Unit to Receive Two Presidential Unit Citations During a Single Year of Combat Duty in ANY US Conflict or War...the Presidential Unit Citation is the Nation's Highest Decoration for Extraordinary Heroism.

The Chinese Bandit Recon LRRP Team 1st Bn (ABN) 8th Cav 1965-66 was awarded two Presidential Unit Citations for extraordinary heroism for their participation in the Battles of the Ia Drang (November 1965) and Nathan Hale (June 1966); conducted the historic FIRST night combat rappel along the Cambodian border led by RANGER Lawson during the Battle of the Ia Drang; and performed DOD/MACV/OP-35 directed long range reconnaissance (LRRP) operations led by 101st RECONDO Grimes along the northern Cambodia and southern Laos borders in the spring of 1966.

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Chinese Bandits...originally the call sign assigned
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Chinese Bandit was the original radio call sign designated for the Recon Platoon of the 1st Bn (ABN) 8th Cav in 1965. The call sign was never changed during the 1965-66 tour and was later used to designate the unit.
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Chinese Bandits Second Presidential Unit Citation (Carley Leads Assault)
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Combat/Reconnaissance Patrol of the Recon 1st Bn (ABN) 8th Cav during
Operation Nathan Hale June 23, 1966

On July 19, 1966 the 2d Bn (ABN) 327th Inf, 101st Airborne Division
conducted air assaults northwest of Tuy Hoa in the vicinity of Trung
Luong Valley and encountered heavy resistance and casualties from
battles with the 66th, 95th and 18th Regiments of the North Vietnamese
Army 302d Division. B and C Companies of the 1st Bn (ABN) 8th Cav, 1st
Cav Division were inserted to reinforce the 2/327 Inf on June 20. B Co
1/8th Cav linked up with B Co 2/327 Inf in the morning on June 21 in
the vicinity of LZ Eagle. The two airborne battalions experienced
continuous attacks, including hand-to-hand combat, and inflicted heavy
losses on the two NVA attacking battalions. One wounded NVA company
commander was captured from the area in front of the rifle companies
and reported his unit had been annihilated and the other NVA units had
begun to withdraw on the evening of June 22d.

On June 22, Recon 1st Bn (ABN) 8th Cav (Chinese Bandits) were
extracted from reconnaissance operations being performed in Kontum
Province and airlifted to Tuy Hoa airport and placed under the
operational control of the 1st Bn 9th Cav, 1st Cav Division. At 0530,
23 June, the Chinese Bandits Recon Platoon and one Recon Platoon of
the 1/9th Cav were inserted into separate landing zones southwest of
LZ Eagle to regain contact with the one of the withdrawing NVA forces.
The sun was shining and the weather dry and combat engagement was
anticipated so the ranger patrol caps were stowed and helmets donned
as the Bandits approached and then exited the helicopters on the tree
lined hilltop LZ. Both landing zones were located adjacent to wide, ox
cart size, trails that led to the higher hilltops where several
hundred of the NVA 66th Regiment were believed to be occupying. The
Bandit LZ was located along the ridgeline approaching the expected
enemy position and the 1/9th Recon LZ was located further downhill in
a draw on the Bandit's left flank.

The Bandits moved along the ridgeline trail and at mid-morning, point
man PFC Raymond Carley observed a NVA size squad moving towards them
and away from the 1/9th Recon Platoon that was proceeding along the
lower trail towards the intersection of both trails. Carley and three
others moved into a position ahead in the vicinity of coordinates CQ
958626 where they were able to kill three of the fleeing NVA before
the remaining NVA, wearing khaki uniforms and some tan helmets,
retreated further uphill.

The Bandits continued up hill along the trail with Carley now opting
to carry the new AK47 that he had removed from one of the NVA and
having given his own M16 and ammunition to the medic assigned to
Recon. Anticipating a main NVA force to be occupying the intersection
of the trails being used by the Bandits and the 1/9th Recon Platoon,
the 25 man Chinese Bandit force advanced slowly along both sides of
the trail while listening to the voices and sounds of the NVA
preparing positions along the ridgeline ahead. Carley continued uphill
ahead of the other Bandits until he located the first enemy positions
and machinegun along the left side of the trail where the Bandits
began to move into combat positions amongst the small and sparsely
treed locations below the NVA. A second machinegun position was
located on the right side of the trail and moments later a third NVA
machinegun opened fire and the Bandits exchanged small arms fire
(rifle, machinegun, and grenades) for several minutes as they
attempted to advance and attack the NVA force.

Operating without orders, SP/4 Frank Spickler, team leader of the 3d
Scout Squad, immediately ran forward to assist Carley and those
engaging the most concentrated NVA force located in the vicinity of
coordinates CQ 962618 where he observed Carley laying along the trail
about 30 feet in front of the nearest NVA position. Carley had been
shot several times and although alive, he was unable to crawl clear of
the withering fire. Spickler moved closer and avoided detection by the
NVA until he attempted to cross the trail and pull Carley to safety.
Heavy enemy fire prevented Spickler from advancing and he withdrew a
short distance to obtain the assistance of other Bandits located near
him. Spickler positioned one of the scouts in a location where the
scout could provide suppressing fire during his effort to move Carley.
Leaving his rifle with the other Bandits, Spickler again moved into
position near Carley, he dashed towards him, dropping to a low crawl
when the NVA fired on him and then rolling near Carley, he was able to
hoist Carley on his back and quickly dragged him towards the side of
the trail. During this attempt, Spickler felt the impact of bullets
entering Carley. Once clear of the most intense fire, Spickler carried
Carley to the medic who was already treating several, but less wounded
Bandits.

During his second attempt to retrieve Carley, Spickler had located SGT
James Lester lying less than ten feet from where Carley had been
laying. Again acting without orders, Spickler returned to the area in
front of the enemy's position where he low crawled under fire and
dragged the much heavier Lester clear of direct enemy fire.

The Recon Platoon of the 1/9th Cav had quickly advanced along the wide
trail located in the draw and came alongside the left flank of the
Chinese Bandits, where both Recon Platoons unsuccessfully attempted a
coordinated attack in an effort to over run the NVA positions located
near the intersection of both trails.

MSG Johnson, acting platoon leader of the Chinese Bandits, directed
Spickler to move forward to a position between the lead scouts and the
NVA and mark the position with smoke grenades. All available indirect
fire mortars and artillery were positioned to support the other
elements of the 1st Bn (ABN) 8th Cav and the 2d Bn (ABN) 327th Inf and
only ARA equipped gunships were able to provide supporting fires.
Spickler remained in position, marking the enemy lines while the
gunships continually attacked the NVA located in front of the two
Recon Platoons and on the higher hilltops for about thirty minutes.
One gunship pass was made 'danger close' resulting in a 2.75-inch FF
aerial rocket exploding and injury several Bandits, including SSG
Robert Grimes, the 1st Scout Squad Leader and acting Platoon Sergeant.
The NVA withdrew further uphill allowing the two Recon Platoons to
carry their killed and wounded scouts along the side of the lower
trail that had been used by the Recon Platoon of the 1/9th Cav.
However, as darkness fell, another large NVA force resumed the attack
and pursued the wounded men of both Recon Platoons as they made their
way towards the LZ designated for extraction. Small firefights
occurred throughout the night resulting in further Bandits being
wounded. Approaching the LZ that was secured by other troops from the
3d Brigade, 1st Cav Division, in the early morning light, medivac
helicopters arrived and both Recon Platoons were airlifted to a field
medical station that had been located along Highway One. The bodies of
Chinese Bandits PFC Raymond Carley and Sergeants James Lester and
Honorio Ramirez and the other many wounded Bandits were left with the
medics, doctors and nurses. The remaining Chinese Bandits rejoined the
1st Bn (ABN) 8th Cav and commenced patrolling in the area SW of LZ
Eagle on June 26, 1966.

This description of the actions taken by Carley and Spickler is only
one of the many efforts made by the scouts of both Recon Platoons and
warrant being written in recognition of those that fought that day on
June 23, 1966. Efforts are underway to post the other detailed
descriptions of those engagements on the Chinese Bandit LRRP Team
Recon 1st Bn (ABN) 8th Cav homepage.

Raymond Carley, our youngest Chinese Bandit, is buried at Fort Rosecrans National Cemetery
in San Diego County, California; Frank Spickler was awarded the Bronze
Star with V Device (something that remains a source of irritation
after forty years...it was initially discussed that he was to be given
the Distinguished Service Cross); and Recon 1st Bn (ABN) 8th Cav was
awarded its SECOND Presidential Unit Citation for valor. 101st Recondo
Spickler was later shot in the lung while serving as the Platoon
Sergeant of the 3d Platoon, C Company, 2d Bn (ABN) 501st Infantry,
101st Airborne Division and unable to remain on jump status and left
the military in 1970.

The 1965-66 Chinese Bandits were to remain a fighting airborne Recon
Platoon with its LRRP Team performing extended long range
reconnaissance operations along the borders of Laos and Cambodia until
November 1966 when they were disbanded having lost most of its
original NCOs and scouts.

Extracted from written statement made by Duke Barrett and interviews
with Frank Spickler and others serving with the Recon 1st Bn (ABN) 8th
Cav on June 23, 1966; and the official after action reports of the 1st
Bn (ABN) 8th Cav, and 2d Bn (ABN) 327th Infantry.

Historical footnote: Nathan Hale (June 6, 1755 - September 22, 1776)
was a captain in the Continental Army during the American
Revolutionary War. Hale is best remembered for his "I only regret that
I have but one life to lose for my country" speech before being hung
following the Battle of Long Island. An account of his capture was
written by Consider Tiffany, a British Loyalist, and obtained by the
Library of Congress. In Tiffany's account, Major Robert Rogers of the
Queens Rangers ("Rogers Rangers") was the individual responsible for
his capture and personally apprehended him. More information can be
obtained reference Nathan Hale's capture in the Library of Congress
Information Bulletin-July-August 2003
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2nd PUC Battle of Trung Luong citation
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Note the wording "23 June 1966 ended one of the longest and most fiercely waged engagements of the Vietnam War" in the PUC citation below

BY VIRTUE of the authority vested in me as President of the United States and as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States I have today awarded
THE PRESIDENTIAL UNIT CITATION (ARMY) FOR EXTRAORDINARY HEROISM TO 2D BATTALION, 327TH INFANTRY,
1ST BRIGADE, 101ST AIRBORNE DIVISION AND TO
1ST BATTALION (LESS COMPANY A) 8TH CAVALRY 1ST CAVALRY DIVISION (AIRMOBILE),
UNITED STATES ARMY
The foregoing units of the United States Army distinguished themselves by gallantry in action while engaged in military operations against a hostile force on 19-22 June 1966 at Trung Luong, Republic of Vietnam. During Operations "Deckhouse II" and "Nathan Hale", the 2d Battalion (Airborne), 327th Infantry and 1st Battalion (Airborne), 8th Cavalry, displayed gallantry and esprit de corps in defeating a well-disciplined, heavily armed and numerically superior enemy force. Operation "Deckhouse II" began on 19 June 1966 with a two-pronged, two-company airmobile assault south of Trung Luong conducted by Companies A and C, 2d Battalion (Airborne), 327th Infantry. As Companies A and C swept north, they encountered resistance from small enemy units armed with automatic weapons and repelled them without casualties. As Company C approached the village from the west, it was opposed fiercely by 2 platoons from the elite 18B North Vietnamese Army Regiment. On the morning of 20 June 1966, Companies A and C launched attacks to the north. The battle raged for hours with the enemy using antiaircraft weapons in direct fire at point-blank range. Company B, recalled from other brigade operations, took casualties as they debarked the helicopters, but they immediately attacked the hill under cover of artillery fire. In actions bristling with individual deeds of extraordinary heroism, Companies A and B fought through the afternoon until nearly dark, when they withdrew to evacuate their wounded. At 1915 hours on 20 June 1966, Companies B and C were helilifted into a landing zone to the north. At this time the operation was redesignated "Nathan Hale". On the morning of 21 June 1966, Companies B and C, 1st Battalion, 8th Cavalry, delivered covering fire from the north while Company B, 2d Battalion (Airborne), 327th Infantry, executed another assault on Hill 258. This determined assault and sweep operation neutralized the enemy force and Hill 258 was secured. Company B, 2d Battalion (Airborne), 327th Infantry, consolidated the objective while Companies B and C, 1st Battalion, 8th Cavalry, moved south and southeast on two axes to link up with and reinforce Companies A and C, 2d Battalion (Airborne), 327th Infantry, respectively. Company C, 2d Battalion (Airborne), also launched a determined attack on the enemy on 21 June 1966. Company B, 1st Battalion, 8th Cavalry, made contact with Company C and closed in to their perimeter after an all-day foot movement from Hill 258. At 0430 hours on 22 June 1966, the enemy launched the most ferocious attack of the four-day battle. After three hours of fierce fighting, the enemy was finally forced to withdraw under intense fire with extremely heavy losses. At 0900 hours on the morning of 22 June 1966, Company A, 2d Battalion, 327th Infantry and Company C, 1st Battalion, 8th Cavalry, conducted an assault, seizing high ground to the south of Trung Luong. By 1615 hours these companies were in full possession of the key terrain. 23 June 1966 ended one of the longest and most fiercely waged engagements of the Vietnam War. The enemy lost 373 personnel by body count and estimate, along with 70 individual and 9 crew-served weapons. By comparison, the friendly forces lost 26 killed in action while 3 died of wounds. Throughout the four-day battle, the gallantry and indomitable spirit with which the 2d Battalion (Airborne), 327th Infantry, and the 1st Battalion, 8th Cavalry, engaged and destroyed the well prepared heavily armed and numerically superior enemy force were in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service and reflect great credit on all members of the Battalions who participated in this combat action.
LYNDON B. JOHNSON

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Carley Remembered 2d PUC Battle of Trung Luong
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RAYMOND MONTELL CARLEY
REMEMBERED
1966
by Ranger Jerry Conners,
Chinese Bandit Recon 1st Bn (ABN) 8th Cav, 1965-1966

face down crawling
the pain does not matter anymore
they can not help me,
Don't try he yells
to those nearby
must it end

the ground is warm,
the smell of the earth
the fallen leaves in hand
engulfed in the sounds of withering fire
touched twice again
he grimaces and smiles
through gritted teeth
alone without strength
must it end,

colder now
shaking
unable to breathe
or tear the collar too close
about his neck,
struggling frantically
to hold on
numb now,
through squinted eyes some light,
soaked in blood
fingers slowly grasping emptiness,
swaying in the arms of death
let there be more.

RAYMOND MONTELL CARLEY
PFC - E3 - Army - Regular
1st Cav Division (AMBL)
Length of service 1 years
His tour began on Aug 20, 1965
Casualty was on Jun 23, 1966
In , SOUTH VIETNAM
HOSTILE, GROUND CASUALTY
GUN, SMALL ARMS FIRE
Body was recovered
Panel 08E - Line 82

Note: Raymond Carley was killed on June 23, 1966 during the Battle of Trung Loung where the Chinese Bandits were awarded their 2d Presidential Unit Citation during the period 1965-1966…the first was awarded for participation in the Battle of Ia Drang in November 1965.
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Thats to bad, I would have liked to seen the reply to PHO127. Those were some heavy hitter names dropped in Conners path.

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The information is posted verbatum in the First Cav Association history section. If he is a wannabe he has got a whole lot of people fooled. He is listed in the roster for the 1/8th Cav in the same history section. Huh? I just looked through the history again to quote what was said by him and either I can't find it or it has all been deleted. Amazing!
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His MO is to hit all these military sites. When questioned, he never responds. The stuff he put up here is the same on all sites. Notice how he never responded to me asking exactly where 1/8 was in the Ira Drang. Also, no response to the PUC's 1/8 got along with the 327th of the 101. These citations where not just for his so called LRRP/RANGER/RECON unit. Also, unless things changed, the 1st Cav had their own Ranger and LRRP Companies and 1/9 usually did Recon for 1/8 and 2/8, and most of the Cav.

What did Sid/Pho ask him? I missed that before he got banned.

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He said that they took part in DoD MACV OP35. OP35 was the ground studies portion of MACV/SOG. There were NEVER any Divisional units assigned or attached to SOG for any operational plan. Personnell were assigned to SOG under classified secret orders but never a unit, For ground studies they normally were assigned to MACV SOG from SF 5th group, USMC Force RECON and SEAL TEAM 2. I called 2 of my SF partners in crime to check and make sure I was correct. Col Mark Ponzillo who helped start the RECONDO school in Na Trang, Installed the ranger company for the 25th, Was CO of SOG OP34 (airborne operations)at Long Than and was CO of the jump school at Benning. SMJ Jim Farrell was my RT Lighting opns sgt at Quan Loi and retired as SMJ of the Ranger School also at Benning. Conners also claims to have been a SF weapons expert. Well at that time Officers remained branch qualified with the officers MOS for that branch and were given Prefix qualifications for SF and Airborne and Ranger qualifications. For instance my basic mos was Field Artillery (1190) with prefix 3 and 5 qualifications (351190). A SF Officer would not have an enlisted SF mos qualification. I also asked where he went to jump master school what was his class and roster number, Does he have a Graduation Certificate to produce. You must attend jumpmaster school along with the required number and type of jumps to get the wreath. A lot of people don't know that.
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He said that they took part in DoD MACV OP35. OP35 was the ground studies portion of MACV/SOG. There were NEVER any Divisional units assigned or attached to SOG for any operational plan. Personnell were assigned to SOG under classified secret orders but never a unit, For ground studies they normally were assigned to MACV SOG from SF 5th group, USMC Force RECON and SEAL TEAM 2. I called 2 of my SF partners in crime to check and make sure I was correct. Col Mark Ponzillo who helped start the RECONDO school in Na Trang, Installed the ranger company for the 25th, Was CO of SOG OP34 (airborne operations)at Long Than and was CO of the jump school at Benning. SMJ Jim Farrell was my RT Lighting opns sgt at Quan Loi and retired as SMJ of the Ranger School also at Benning. Conners also claims to have been a SF weapons expert. Well at that time Officers remained branch qualified with the officers MOS for that branch and were given Prefix qualifications for SF and Airborne and Ranger qualifications. For instance my basic mos was Field Artillery (1190) with prefix 3 and 5 qualifications (351190). A SF Officer would not have an enlisted SF mos qualification. I also asked where he went to jump master school what was his class and roster number, Does he have a Graduation Certificate to produce. You must attend jumpmaster school along with the required number and type of jumps to get the wreath. A lot of people don't know that.
Your knowledge base on these subjects still astounds me !!

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Remember...Sid was an officer and a Gentle...well an officer. We of the lowly enlisted ranks didn't know all this stuff. We just got excited once a month when we got our $68 dollars. For the next 28 days...we just waited to get paid again cause we was broke.

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