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Old 11-12-2008, 08:46 AM
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Default Now we see why the DOW is going South

Read the 2nd paragraph - Government will not bail out troubled assets as originally planned.


Stocks lower as Paulson unveils change in bailout
11/12/08 11:01 EST
By SARA LEPRO

NEW YORK (AP) - An already disheartened Wall Street turned sharply lower Wednesday after Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said the government won't buy banks' soured mortgage assets after all, disappointing investors who hoped to see the bad debt wiped off companies' books. The Dow Jones industrials fell more than 270 points, and all the major indexes dropped more than 2 percent as the market retreated for a third straight session.

Paulson said the government's $700 billion financial rescue package will not purchase troubled assets from banks as originally planned. He said that plan would have taken too much time, and that the Treasury instead will rely on buying stakes in banks and encouraging them to resume more normal lending.

While the market had been pleased by the government's decision weeks ago to buy banks' stock, investors still hoped to see the financial industry relieved of the burden of the mortgage assets whose decline in value helped set off the nation's financial crisis.

Paulson also announced a new goal for the program to support financial markets which supply consumer credit in such areas as credit card debt, auto loans and student loans. He said "with a stronger capital base, our banks will be more confident" to support economic activity.

With the market also worried about sagging consumer spending, news from some of the nation's biggest retailers also sent stocks falling. Macy's Inc. said it lost $44 million in the third quarter as sales at the department store retailer fell more than 7 percent. Consumer electronics retailer Best Buy Co., meanwhile, slashed its fiscal 2009 guidance on fears that consumer spending will erode even further.

Investors are worried that a severe pullback in consumer spending - which drives more than two-thirds of the U.S. economy - will prolong a global economic downturn.

In late morning trading, the Dow shed 274.39, or 3.16 percent, to 8,419.57.

The broader Standard & Poor's 500 index dropped 29.49, or 3.28 percent, to 869.46, and the Nasdaq composite index stumbled 41.43, or 2.62 percent, to 1,539.47.

The Russell 2000 index of smaller companies fell 14.24, or 2.95 percent, to 468.05.

Declining issues outnumbered advancers by about 4 to 1 on the New York Stock Exchange, where volume came to a light 235.6 million shares.

Concerns about consumer spending contributed to the market's declines on Monday and Tuesday.

Government bond prices, which did not trade Tuesday because of Veterans Day, moved higher as investors looked for safer investments. The three-month Treasury bill's yield fell to 0.19 percent from 0.22 percent late Monday, and the yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note fell to 3.69 percent from 3.76 percent late Monday.

Lower yields indicate stronger demand.

Crude dropped below $57 a barrel Wednesday on the growing realization that global economic growth next year will slow more than originally feared, cutting demand for crude products such as gasoline. Light, sweet crude fell $1.42 to $56.91 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

In corporate news, the future of the country's top automakers remained a major concern on the Street. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi wants Congress to support a financial bailout for the troubled U.S. auto industry, which is suffering under the weight of poor sales, tight credit and a sputtering economy.

President-elect Obama, when he met with President Bush at the White House on Monday, urged Bush to support aid for the auto industry, and Democrats in Congress have begun drafting legislation that would give General Motors, Ford and Chrysler access to $25 billion of the rescue funds.

American Express Co. is said to be seeking about $3.5 billion from the government to help boost its balance sheet, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal citing people familiar with the situation. AmEx, the No. 4 U.S. credit card issuer, won approval Monday from the Federal Reserve to become a bank holding company, which gives it the ability to grow a large deposit base and access financing from the Fed.

AmEx shares dropped $1.90, or 8.6 percent, to $20.49.

Prudential Financial Inc. said late Tuesday its 2008 annual dividend will be roughly half of what it paid out to shareholders last year. The insurer said it will pay a dividend of 58 cents per share on Dec. 19 to shareholders of record at the close of business on Nov. 24. Last year, the company paid a dividend of $1.15 per share.

Prudential shares slipped 14 cents to $27.47.

The dollar was mixed against other major currencies, while gold prices dipped.

Overseas, Japan's Nikkei closed down 1.29 percent and Hong Kong Hang Seng fell 0.73 percent. In European trading, London's FTSE 100 fell 2.19 percent, Germany's DAX fell 3.55 percent, and France's CAC-40 dropped 3.20 percent.



After reading outline of the DOW it seems there is little light at the end of the tunnel and I foresee major issues affecting the overall financial system for the next year or so. Lost 35% of my life savings of which I feel another 20 to 30% could be lost on top of that. I fear retirement will be like going to the poor house. I really worry about the grandkids and what will the US be for them when they are ready to join the workforce??? I worry for them.
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Old 11-12-2008, 06:19 PM
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But if the Dow was goin South....it would be doing better. If not...why do we have 10 billion damn Yankees moving here. You mean the Dow's going North. Just ask the auto industry that keeps building plants down here. Time for a terminology change. Ain't nobody movin to the RUST BELT. We all's doin just great. "Look forward, Look South". Who can tell me where that comes from? Gimpy fo' sho', Steve?

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Personally, where the DJIA goes these days is of minor interest, as I've converted my mutual funds to gold, and will be buying more as the days go by. With more and more socialism oozing in, I'll be in a better position to deal with the necessities of living.
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