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Old 04-13-2009, 04:05 PM
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You know who we really need to worry about? You right-wing veteran maniacs!
April 13th, 2009

That, according to our own Department of Homeland Security. You should start by reading this report from DHS, entitled “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment.” (PDF SHORTCUT IN NEXT POST JOY)

The essential premise of this document is straight forward enough:

The DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A) has no specific information that domestic rightwing terrorists are currently planning acts of violence, but rightwing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their fears about several emergent issues. The economic downturn and the election of the first African American president present unique drivers for rightwing radicalization and recruitment.

Now, one of the specific groups it is worried about is “Disgruntled Military Veterans.”

DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the capabilities of extremists—including lone wolves or small terrorist cells—to carry out violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today.

Now, just in case you question whether there sufficient numbers of these people to be considered an actual threat, DHS has kindly included some references to such people:

— (U) After Operation Desert Shield/Storm in 1990-1991, some returning military veterans—including Timothy McVeigh—joined or associated with rightwing extremist groups.
— (U) A prominent civil rights organization reported in 2006 that “large numbers of potentially violent neo-Nazis, skinheads, and other white supremacists are now learning the art of warfare in the [U.S.] armed forces.”
— (U//LES) The FBI noted in a 2008 report on the white supremacist movement that some returning military veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have joined extremist groups.

Ok, let’s start at the onset by admitting that there are some real asshats in the military. No doubt about it. McVeigh was clearly one of them. It should be remembered too that he didn’t get into SF, because they correctly identified him as one of them.

What pisses me off about this whole document is two things.

First it once again settles into that pattern we see all the time of stereotyping veterans coming as the disgruntled types who could go sketchy on a brown person anytime. Gee, I wonder how they get that impression?

Could be from all the liars over at IVAW telling everyone under the sun how they were trained to kill only brown people, how Drill Sergeants beat it into them that brown people were the enemy, etc etc etc. Call it the Geoff Millard School of military science. Mind you, if that stuff happened it was very limited in scope, but you wouldn’t know that from the panelists at Winter Soldier.


But Part Two of what pisses me off is the second bullet up there, to wit:

A prominent civil rights organization reported in 2006 that “large numbers of potentially violent neo-Nazis, skinheads, and other white supremacists are now learning the art of warfare in the [U.S.] armed forces.”

And what “prominent civil rights organization” are they citing to? The Southern Poverty Legal Center, SPLC. I’m not going to go too far into SPLC, but everything you need to know about them should be summed up by this: last year the SPLC listed The American Legion as a hate group because of its position on Immigration. The American Legion even (GASP!) gave an award to Lou Dobbs. You bastards!

To the SPLC anyone who doesn’t believe that our Southern Border should be manned by Walmart greeters handing out happy stickers and water while welcoming them to our country is a racist, a nativist, a white supremacist. So, if The American Legion is a hate group, and the DHS agrees with the SPLC, seemingly enough to cite to them anyway, can we assume that we should root out all those bastards in the military who belong to The American Legion?

How big a problem is rightwing extremism in the military? Well, the FBI report alluded to above shows the shocking (SHOCKING!) statistic that 203 members of white supremacist organizations claimed to have been veterans. 203. CLAIMED they were veterans.



(U//FOUO) Figure 1 illustrates the distribution of the 203 individuals among major categories of white supremacist extremism. Although the count of 203 includes persons with unverified military backgrounds—some of whom may have inflated their resumes with fictional military experience to impress others within the movement—this number is helpful in identifying those groups which most attract and value military experience.

Even one lunatic in our military is one too many for me. There is no place in our military for racism, particularly when you have to rely to the man (or woman) on your right and left to stay alive. But, this seems just a bit more bark than bite, no? 203 people is barely enough to make up a plussed-up company, and I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of this 203 is either completely full of shit with regard to their service, or was some sort of REMF Pogue.

I find it interesting that SPLC hasn’t noted any of the other gangs which have been encouraging enlistment in the military, you know gangs like:

the Bloods, Crips, Black Disciples, Gangster Disciples, Hells Angels, Latin Kings, The 18th Street Gang, Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13), Mexican Mafia, Nortenos, Surenos, Vice Lords, and various white supremacist groups, have been documented on military installations both domestically and internationally.

Yeah, I wouldn’t worry about any of those groups, the ones to really look out for are the people who believe in law and order, and that immigration should be achieved in the traditional manner, rather than just coming across and waiting for the Senate to approve it retro-actively.

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Old 04-13-2009, 04:07 PM
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Joy can you tell me who is http://images.logicsix.com

Thought it strange the pdf file said unclassified but for official use only. While I was in the file I went to the address bar and keyed in the above address and got this message: Error 403-Forbidden You tried to access a document for which you don't have privileges

Can you confirm this is an actual DHS document if so and it's for offical use only is images.logicsix.com an official DHS site? Sure didn't have the look and feel of most government sites I go to. Never mind I've got my answer found what I was looking for:

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Find graph here:

Note: AS8560

http://www.robtex.com/dns/images.logicsix.com.html

Methinks it's some nut job stirring the pot using the www and doing a pretty good job of it too. Did a search on Google and found several sites just lit up bringing out the best in folks as per usual. If this is a brush fire that has been lit just to watch Americans go at each other it would be a good thing to use this information I just posted here to verify who this person is put out this fire before we have a full fledge inferno.
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Quote:
unclassified but for official use only

is not a contradiction.
OUO means don't leave it face up on your desk. Above that is unclassified (UCNI for nuclear). Above that are classified including secret and all the special access classifications.

This aint hell and why we read it and copy some of it here. They've been around since 2003
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We are Jonn Lilyea, COB6 and TSO. COB6 was a platoon leader and Jonn was a platoon sergeant (of different platoons) in Charley Co. 1/41st Infantry in the 3rd Brigade of the Second Armored Division Forward which was attached to the 1st Infantry Division during Desert Storm. TSO and Jonn met in the maelstrom of Winter Soldier hearings in Silver Spring, MD. All three of us have Combat Infantry Badges, all three of us have served in the US Army Infantry in combat. Now we’ve all teamed up to fight another entirely different evil.
There’s more about Jonn’s military career at his accompanying website. COB6 who came over here from Crotchety Old Bastard has more at that website. TSO began his blogging at The Sniper, where he still writes.
Don’t forget to stop by and take a moment to get to know our friend Tim Martin who was killed in Mogadishu in 1993.
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Ok got that. What about the website that is ran through a server out of Germany? I don't buy that someone is going to steal an official document from the Department of Homeland Security of the United States of America and then put it on the www and run it through a service that is easily located by a few mouse clicks. Someone is going to have to show me the money on this one. Not going to pass it on til they do. Hope everyone else will do the same.
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Default Manifesto of David Atkisson, Shooter in a Unitarian Church near Knoxville, Tennessee

To whom it may concern:

I guess you're wondering why I did this. Well, let me explain in detail.
Over the years I've had some good jobs, but I always got layed off. Now I'm 58 years old & I can't get a decent job. I'm told I'm "overqualified," which is a code word for "too damned old." Like I'm expected to age gracefully into poverty. No thanks! I'm done!
I've always wondered why I was put on the earth. For years I thought I was put here to die as cannon fodder in VietNam but somehow cheated the devil out of it. Lately I've been feeling helpess in our war on Terrorizm. But I realized I could engage the terrorists allies here in America. The best allies they've got.
The Democrates! The democrates have done everything they can do to tie our hands in this War on Terror. They're all abunch of traitors. They want America to loose this war for reasons I can not understand. It makes me soooo mad!
In a parallel train of thought; It saddens me to think back on all the bad things that Liberalism has done to this country. The worst problem America faces today is Liberalism. They have dumbed down education. They have defined deviancy down. Liberals have attacked every major institution that made America great. From the Boy Scouts to the military, from education to Religion. The major news outlets have become the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party. Liberals are evil, they embrace the tenets of Karl Marx, they're Marxist, socialist, communists.

The Unitarian Universalist Church
Don't let the word church mislead you. This isn't a church, it's a cult. They don't even believe in God. They worship the God of Secularizm. These sick people aren't Liberals, they're Ultra-Liberals. This is a collection of sicko's, weirdo's, & homo's. The UU church is the fountainhead, the veritable wellspring of anti-American organizations like Moveon.org, Code Pink, and other un-American groups.
These people are absolute Hypocrits. They embrace every pervert that comes down the pike, but if they find out your a conservative, they absolutely hate you.
I know. I experienced it.
I can't for the life of me understand why these people would embrace Marxism like they do.
I'd like someone to do an exposé on this church, it's a den of un-American Vipers.
They call themselves "Progressive." How is a white woman having a niger baby progress? How is a man sticking his dick up another man's ass progress?
It's an abomination.
It takes a warped mind to hate America.
It makes me so angry. I can't live with it anymore!
The environmental nuts have to be stopped.

Know This If Nothing Else
I. This was a hate crime:
I hate the damn left-wing liberals. There is a vast left-wing conspiracy in this country & these liberals are working together to attack every decent & honorable institution in the nation, trying to turn this country into a communist state. Shame on them.

II. This was a Political Protest:
I'm protesting the liberal Supreme Court Justices for give the terrorists at GITMO constitutional rights. I'm protesting the major News outlets, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, PBS for being the propaganda wing of the Democrat Party. It's criminal what they're getting away with. They're traitors! They must be stopped!
I'm protesting the DNC running such a radical leftist candidate, Osama Hussein OBama, yo Mama. No experience, no brains, a joke. Dangerous to America. Hell, he looks like Curious George!
III. This was a symbolic killing.
Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg's book. I'd like to kill everyone in the Mainstream Media. But I knew these people were inaccessible to me. I couldn't get to the generals & high ranking officers of the Marxist movement so I went after the foot soldiers, the chicken shit liberals that vote in these traitorous people. Someone had to get the ball rolling. I volunteered. I hope others do the same. It's the only way we can rid America of this cancer, this pestilence.

In Conclusion:
No one gets out of this world alive so I've chosen to skip the bad years of poverty. I know my life is going downhill fast from here. The future looks bleak. I'm sick & tired of being sick & tired. I'm absolutely fed up. So I thought I'd do something good for this Country. Kill Democrats til the cops kill me. If decent patriotic Americans could vote 3 times in every election we couldn't stem this tide of liberalism that's destroying America. Liberals are a pest like termites. Millions of them. Each little bite contributes to the downfall of this great nation. The only way we can rid ourselves of this evil is kill them in the streets. Kill them where they gather. I'd like to encourage like-minded people to do what I've done. If life ain't worth living anymore, don't just kill yourself, do something for your Country before you go. Go Kill Liberals. Tell the cop that killed me that I said, "Thanks, I needed that."
I have no next of kin, no living relatives. If you would take my sorry carcass to the body farm or donate it to science, or just throw me in the Tennessee River.

Sincerely
Jim David Atkisson


Too bad he didn't get his wish and get killed. He got a lifge sentence adn for the rest of his live his rear is a target. Pity, pity
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THE COMING CIVIL WAR!



If you notice at all times, anytime there is truth starting to surface relating to any and all crimes and/or the increase of crimes, the Whites and/or their organizations are always targeted as the problem by the Jews and the liberal communist press, politicians', and educators. You can also throw the religious element into that pot of communist soup also.

This could be no further from the truth as to what reality is in the United States. Black on White crime is hitting the ceiling. But of course, unless Whitey just bows down and allows the Blacks and/or the Mexicans to murder, maim, rape, or just rob them ...... then Whitey is the problem.

Well, WHITEY is waking up to the Jew conspiracy bullshit that has been thrown into the face of all Whites for quite some time.

WHITEY is sick and tired of being the scapegoat for all the crimes of racial violence in the United States.

WHITEY is buying guns and ammunition at a record pace .... no-stop since the Marxist Communist Obama entered illegally (not a U.S. confirmed citizen) into the White House, and WHITEY is awakening to the Jews and their` financial rip-off of the U.S. Treasury (U.S. taxpayers) and the giving of such, to the JEW banks, lending financial houses, and to the Jews themselves without having to disclose where and how much money went where!!

The writing is on the wall. Even the blind and dumb are starting to smell a rat (Jew). Even ordinary Joe and Jane Doe are stocking up on food, guns, and ammunition. Something they have never done in their life before, and at a record pace. No longer do the masses just see the smoke of their problems, but now they see the FIRE which is creating that terrible smoke and smell in their nation. Of course, the terrible smell is the Jews and their Black hordes who they buy off to be their axe men and criminals in the streets of the United States. You can also throw in all millions of criminal illegal alien Mexicans who are in our nation creating havoc in whatever way they can. I can tell you one thing, it is going to be one hell of a fight .... to say the least.

Keep preparing and obtaining the main ingredients you and your loved ones need to survive. FOOD, AMMUNITION, WEAPONS TO SHOOT THE AMMUNITION, A FRESH WATER SUPPLY OR WATERING FILTERING SYSTEM .... shelter - and to be with like-minded people who want not only to survive, but to also DESTROY ALL THOSE WHO WANT TO KILL OR HARM YOU.

Civil war is already on this nations Southwestern border and pushing up into Phoenix and Tucson, Arizona, as well into portions of Texas. The United States will not see CIVIL WAR happen at once across the country, but instead a gradual increase from area to area.

Stay focused at all times.

Be prepared at all times!


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I have visited the website you got the link from and checked the owners out, quoted and linked to the website also. Do not think for one minute that I am questioning their integrity or yours. But we have all been wrong at least once in our life times and we can't afford to be wrong now. Don't know that this originated with that particular website. Do key words on Google and think you will see what I'm talking about. This is serious stuff and there are enough nut jobs out there as noted in Doc Fred's example of the right and equally as many on the left that could care less about this Republic more than willing to create chaos to destroy it. I hope you and others will at least consider the information in my previous post in this thread and time I took to find it. Then use it as you see fit.

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Confirmed: The Obama DHS hit job on conservatives is real
By Michelle Malkin • April 14, 2009 12:01 AM

Yesterday, Roger Hedgecock and the Liberty Papers posted an unclassified DHS Office of Intelligence and Analysis report titled:
Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment.

The “report” (PDF file here) was one of the most embarrassingly shoddy pieces of propaganda I’d ever read out of DHS. I couldn’t believe it was real.

I spent the day chasing down DHS spokespeople, who have been tied up preparing for a very important homeland security event later today: The First Lady is coming to visit their Washington office. Priorities, you know.

Well, the press office got back to me and verified that the document is indeed for real.

They were very defensive — preemptively so — in asserting that it was not a politicized document and that DHS had done reports on “leftwing extremism” in the past. I have covered DHS for many years and am quite familiar with past assessments they and the FBI have done on animal rights terrorists and environmental terrorists. But those past reports have always been very specific in identifying the exact groups, causes, and targets of domestic terrorism, i.e., the ALF, ELF, and Stop Huntingdon wackos who have engaged in physical harassment, arson, vandalism, and worse against pharmaceutical companies, farms, labs, and university researchers.

By contrast, the piece of crap report issued on April 7 is a sweeping indictment of conservatives. And the intent is clear. As the two spokespeople I talked with on the phone today made clear: They both pinpointed the recent “economic downturn” and the “general state of the economy” for stoking “rightwing extremism.” One of the spokespeople said he was told that the report has been in the works for a year. My b.s. detector went off the chart, and yours will, too, if you read through the entire report — which asserts with no evidence that an unquantified “resurgence in rightwing extremist recruitment and radicalizations activity” is due to home foreclosures, job losses, and…the historical presidential election.

In Obama land, there are no coincidences. It is no coincidence that this report echoes Tea Party-bashing left-wing blogs (check this one out comparing the Tea Party movement to the Weather Underground!) and demonizes the very Americans who will be protesting in the thousands on Wednesday for the nationwide Tax Day Tea Party.

From the report, p.2:

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Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.
From the report. p. 3:

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(U//LES) Rightwing extremists are harnessing this historical election as a recruitment tool. Many rightwing extremists are antagonistic toward the new presidential administration and its perceived stance on a range of issues, including immigration and citizenship, the expansion of social programs to minorities, and restrictions on firearms ownership and use.

Rightwing extremists are increasingly galvanized by these concerns and leverage them as drivers for recruitment. From the 2008 election timeframe to the present, rightwing extremists have capitalized on related racial and political prejudices in expanded propaganda campaigns, thereby reaching out to a wider audience of potential sympathizers.
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(U) Exploiting Economic Downturn

(U//FOUO) Rightwing extremist chatter on the Internet continues to focus on the economy, the perceived loss of U.S. jobs in the manufacturing and construction sectors, and home foreclosures. Anti-Semitic extremists attribute these losses to a deliberate conspiracy conducted by a cabal of Jewish “financial elites.” These “accusatory” tactics are employed to draw new recruits into rightwing extremist groups and further radicalize those already subscribing to extremist beliefs. DHS/I&A assesses this trend is likely to accelerate if the economy is perceived to worsen.
From the report, p. 5:

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(U//FOUO) Over the past five years, various rightwing extremists, including militias and white supremacists, have adopted the immigration issue as a call to action, rallying point,
and recruiting tool. Debates over appropriate immigration levels and enforcement policy generally fall within the realm of protected political speech under the First Amendment, but in some cases, anti-immigration or strident pro-enforcement fervor has been directed against specific groups and has the potential to turn violent.
And echoing the anti-military bigotry last seen in that disgusting Penn State University training video, there’s this on p. 7:

Quote:
(U) Disgruntled Military Veterans

(U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the capabilities of extremists—including lone wolves or small terrorist cells—to carry out violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today.
There’s no hackneyed left-wing stereotype of conservatives left behind in this DHS intelligence and analysis assessment. I asked both DHS spokespeople to tell me who, specifically, the report was accusing of “rightwing extremist chatter” and which “antigovernment” groups are being monitored as “extremists.” They say they’ll get back to me.

In the meantime, be aware of this from the report, p. 8:

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(U//FOUO) DHS/I&A will be working with its state and local partners over the next several months to ascertain with greater regional specificity the rise in rightwing extremist activity in the United States, with a particular emphasis on the political, economic, and social factors that drive rightwing extremist radicalization.
Better make a few last-minute signs for the Tea Party. Obama’s DHS is watching:

Honk if you’re a radicalized rightwing extremist!

Guilty of rightwing extremist chatter

Anti-government, pro-freedom: Sue me

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