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Old 07-26-2009, 08:27 PM
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Emanuel, however, believes that "communitarianism" should guide decisions on who gets care. He says medical care should be reserved for the non-disabled, not given to those "who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens . . . An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia" (Hastings Center Report, Nov.-Dec. '96).

Translation: Don't give much care to a grandmother with Parkinson's or a child with cerebral palsy.

He explicitly defends discrimination against older patients: "Unlike allocation by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious discrimination; every person lives through different life stages rather than being a single age. Even if 25-year-olds receive priority over 65-year-olds, everyone who is 65 years now was previously 25 years" (Lancet, Jan. 31).

Isn't this special... _________________________

Originally Posted By: Model70Man
I'm in the health care field and we just had a meeting this past Tuesday about the new proposed health care bill. It is true. Proposed is a $500 billion cut to Medicare patients receiving home health care. Patients will soon get a certain number of visits and then that is it. No more. It's a shame. To top it off, expansion of healthcare workers will decrease due to this unconstitutional bill.

It is SEC. 1233. ADVANCE CARE PLANNING CONSULTAION. MY DAD fights the NAZIES now the Democrats have created and become the new NAZIES Reich. Well someone had better go get the spear of destiny back from Austria so we can survive this OBAMA foolishness.

You would agree that they should be left up to the person and/or family rather than the gub'ment?
The cuts in funds to medicare will force the families to comply with the needs of the state to save money , by not saving the old and crippled even though they can be rehabilitated to norma again. Life and death decisions are not perfect, that's a fact. The Schiavo case is a great example of a family that should have had something done but did not.
GREED WAS THE MOTIVATION TO KILL THE WOMAN AND GREED WON.

As one of its chief cost-cutting measures, the Obama administration plans to slash $317 billion through Medicare and Medicaid “efficiencies ... such as reducing Medicare overpayments to private insurers,” according to Obama budget director Peter Orszag. Obama’s stimulus package includes a paltry $268 million in funding for public hospitals.

These cuts come on top of another $313 billion in cuts from the two programs, “including a proposal that will generate about $106 billion in savings over 10 years by reducing payments that help hospitals with the cost of treating patients without insurance,” says Orszag.
Proposed is a $500 billion cut to Medicare patients receiving home health care. Patients will soon get a certain number of visits and then that is it. No more. It's a shame. To top it off, expansion of healthcare workers will decrease due to this unconstitutional bill.

THE ALIENS WILL STILL BE THERE TAKING MORE AND MORE FUNDS FROM OUR TAXES AND RUINING THE PLANS.

The White House is seeking to justify these cuts by claiming that under any new health care reform, these funds will be less needed. According to Nancy-Ann DeParle, director of the White House Office of Health Reform, the number of uninsured will be “reduced dramatically as we move to cover everybody,” and there will be “less of a need for hospitals to get the payments.”
Give the Goberment an inch and they will take a mile.



It shouldn't surprise anyone. Obama's science czar is on record supporting mandatory abortions and another advisor, a "bioethicist", is on record claiming that babies aren't human until they can perceive themselves and has stated that until then they can still be "aborted", months after birth.





Now is the time to spread the word to all of your 'seasoned citizens'. I did just that when Irish J posted this earlier today. The boomers, etc. represent a very large voting block - one with $$$ too.

U.S. House members flooded with calls, emails, etc. from these people will have an effect I believe.



Well I guess my cripple body and the rest of us old military veterans have numbered days , thanks you lieing OBAMA . _________________________

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If this goes through the only solice will be that ALL the hippies that started the downward spiral in this country will soon be participants in Emanuals experiment.
No, I mean two years into his second term when your team took over seats.
I mean when your side said it was okay to kill babies in the womb.

I mean when your side said that one man sticking his penis into another mans anus was normal and they should be married.

I mean when your side answer to drug addiction is free needles and tax payer funded methadone clinics.

I mean when your side kicked God out of schools and society.

I mean when your side enveloped itself around the muslim religion.

I mean when your side cheered when our soldiers were killed in Iraq/Afg.

I mean when your side cheered and said we got what we deserved when planes crashed into the Twin Towers and Pentegon killing over 3000.

Should I keep going???? These are facts, not me bashing. All one sentence responses that are FACTS. If the truth is bashing then you are NOT a democrat as you claim, you are full-fledged liberal. _________________________

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Emanuel, however, believes that "communitarianism" should guide decisions on who gets care. He says medical care should be reserved for the non-disabled, not given to those "who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens . . . An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia" (Hastings Center Report, Nov.-Dec. '96).

Translation: Don't give much care to a grandmother with Parkinson's or a child with cerebral palsy.

He explicitly defends discrimination against older patients: "Unlike allocation by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious discrimination; every person lives through different life stages rather than being a single age. Even if 25-year-olds receive priority over 65-year-olds, everyone who is 65 years now was previously 25 years" (Lancet, Jan. 31).

Isn't this special...


That tells a lot of what they really are going to do.

Remember the old people need more care but look here, Emanuel is saying they will get less care under this plan. They ever are going to cut Medicare 20% to help pay for this program. _________________________


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Old 07-27-2009, 05:23 AM
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If, God forbid, and I mean that as seriously as I can pray, Obamacare gets enacted into law, then our resident liberal/socialist will probably be one of the first to get deselected from receiving any more care. People with diabetes, who are over-weight, and probably have heart problems and other ailments, will just be sent home to die - oh yes, with a pain pill in their little hands. How caring, how compassionate.

And just think, boys and girls, our fathers and possibly grandfathers, fought against Nazism, and lo and behold, it has resurrected itself on our very shores, in the form of Obamaism. And to all who are not in perfectly good health who voted for B.O., how's that socialized medicine working out for you now? Maybe we should just say our goodbyes now.
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On page 195, the Health Choice Administration is given access to the tax records of all Americans in the health care exchange. Here is the relevant text


The Health Choice Act of 2009, shall disclose to officers and employees of the Health Choice Administration, or such state based health insurance exchange, as the case may be, return information of any tax payer whose income is relevant.
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SHOCK UNCOVERED: Obama IN HIS OWN WORDS admitting his Health Care Plan will ELIMINATE private insurance
OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS HEATH CARE GOAL IS A PUBLIC OPTION THAT WILL ULTIMATELY ELIMINATE PRIVATE EMPLOYER PROVIDED INSURANCE
(Obama S.E.I.U. forum on health care 3/24/07, Barney Frank, Jan Schakowsky all admitting a public option will put the private insurance industry out of business) NAKED EMPEROR NEWS

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>>Most of you know by now that the Senate version ( at least ) of the "stimulus"
>>bill includes provisions for extensive rationing of health care for senior citizens.
>>The author of this part of the bill, former senator and tax evader, Tom Daschle
>>was credited today by Bloomberg with the following statement.
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>>Bloomberg: Daschle says "health-care reform will not be pain free.
>>Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with
>>age instead of treating them."
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