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Old 08-27-2003, 01:33 PM
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Angry Monument to Homosexuals Is OK; Monument to Ten Commandments Isn't

Monument to Homosexuals Is OK; Monument to Ten Commandments Isn't

Here's an ironical juxtaposition that hardly anyone is reporting. Even as Alabama gives a monument to the Ten Commandments the boot, California is showing off an exclusionary and divisive new monument to homosexual and "transgender" war veterans.

Homosexual activists are celebrating Tuesday's unveiling of a foot-long marker "In Honor of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Veterans Killed in Action" at Capitol Park in Sacramento, the first of its kind in the nation.

"The memorial was installed without proper approvals from state agencies, and officials spent much of the day Tuesday pointing fingers of blame about what went wrong," the Sacramento Bee reported today.

Maurice Johannessen, state secretary of veterans affairs, said he did not approved the project, which activists apparently installed without permission, a spokesman said.

The Department of General Services and the Legislature's Joint Rules Committee, which help oversee the park, denied receiving or approving any request for the monument.

The office of embattled Gov. Gray Davis said Johannessen had approved the memorial but should have had General Services review it too.

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Davis supports the monument, underling Russell Lopez told the Bee.

"The fact that these veterans who sacrificed their lives are members of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender community in no way lessens the fact that they are heroes and fought for their country," Lopez said.

So how many war heroes hail from the "transgender community"? That remains a mystery.

By the way, homosexual activists who attended the unveiling Tuesday raised the flag - not the Stars and Stripes, but a rainbow flag representing "gay pride."

Participants included homosexual Assembly Democrats Christine Kehoe of San Diego, Jackie Goldberg of Los Angeles, Mark Leno of San Francisco and John Laird of Santa Cruz. Goldberg remains notorious as one of the leftist Democrats caught last month plotting to worsen California's budget crisis.

Opponents called the marker "offensive and disgraceful, saying soldiers should not be honored based on sexual orientation," the Bee reported.

"To single out such a group because of their sexual proclivities is inappropriate," said Bill Manes, a spokesman for California State Commanders Veterans Council, consisting of 20 statewide veterans organizations.

Curiously, California does not have a monument to heterosexual veterans. So much for "diversity," that chief god of the politically correct.
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Old 08-29-2003, 07:34 AM
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Darrel and Joy -

I'm seeing this deal from the eyes of having had 30-years experience as an art curator, so my perceptions are slightly off-beat in a patriots and warriors forum (what else is new).

Here's what I see:

> That exceptionally beautiful and meaningful monument in Alabama was, in the end, a sculpture, protected speech. If Andres Serrano's hideously offensive 'PISS CHRIST" work of "art" can get funding from the National Endowment for the Arts, then a Ten Commandments sculpture can be in a public courthouse in Alabama, even IF it was put there by the Judge without permission. Who gives a rat's a--. Beauty is beauty, a bounteous treasure to behold...and besides, I'm an unrepentant agnostic who happens to strongly favor that THOU SHALT NOT KILL commandment, for one.

> The net effect of the monument's removal yesterday will only be that anyone, from either side (aetheists and devout christians alike), who EVER saw it there will ALWAYS hereafter still see it there, in its rightful place, burned permanently into their mind's imaginative eye. Not one conscious person in America will ever forget exactly what it looked like and exactly what its message was. So much for history being written for the benefit of the "victors". They can hide the thing in a supply closet, or behind the boilers, but SOMEBODY is gonna see it there, and EVERYBODY still breathing will know precisely what it looked like and meant, even when its gone.

> Since the more-american-than-thou "rights of the minority" have won the day in getting the sculpture removed, then I am sure that same minority would be more than happy to have the "rights of the minority" of the KKK or Black Muslims be AS fully implemented at that same Alabama courthouse! Poor babies...

> I have no problem whatsoever, again regardless of how it got put where it is, with there being any monument dedicated to homosexual veterans... for the very same reason, it is a sculpture, protected speech. Word has it that J. Edgar himself was a cross-dresser, and McCarthy's own chief legal aide, Roy Cohn, was gay, Alexander The Great was as gay as pink drawers; only three of uncountable other examples. Homosexuals have always been a part of government and military existence, and will always be... and I am completely unalterably sure that the greatest majority of them serve with honor in spite of their kinky sex habits, if not sometimes with extreme valor.

Your post about the irony of these two situations juxtaposed is, however, right exactly on point. You cannot imagine the s--t I am getting from my professional colleagues for taking the stance as described above about the Ten Commandments monument.

If NOTHING else, America is a place where we celebrate and protect free speech of many kinds. Those two monuments aren't really, truly, hurting anybody.
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