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Dirty thirty help!
I am looking for help. My dad, who is now 73 years old, is a Vietnam War veteran and was a pilot with the original Dirty Thrity. He was in Vietnam from April 1962 to April 1963. I have seen the unit picture and my dad is top row center so I know he was there with the other guys but I am having problems getting any informaton on the unit and it's histroy.
I have been able to make contact with only a few veterans who flew with my dad and the wife of a deceased veteran. I am really hoping there are people here who can help me with my research becasue I really want to put something together for my dad before he passes. The Air Force has not been terribly forthcoming and I am really beginning to wonder what the deal is. Please help if you can. Thanks all. |
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Son
It might help if you give the actual unit name that your dad was in. He was there early but I bet he saved many ground unit lives with his actions. We are all very proud of your dad.
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I believe the official designation was the 43rd Air Transport Squadron (or Maybe Group). I am not sure if this was a USAF or a VNAF designation. Since the commander was Col. Nguyen Ky then there might not have been an actual USAF designation. |
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Ron,
I appreciate the links, however the first and third ones you sent are about a man in the Army and his experiences in 1968. My dad's unit was there April 1962 to April 1963. The second group was there until April 1964. This is just an example of the problems I am having .... apparently the phrase "Dirtyt Thirty" was pretty popular back then. Todd |
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hope this helps
There was also a group of guys in the early part of the war called Jungle Jim.
They were flying old transports and bombers. The people were there mostly on TDY basis at first. Maybe the Air Commando Association can be of some help. I will try a few things for you as I have time. Pete |
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What does your dad say about it?
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It seems to me like the best source of information about this unit, and your dad's activities in it, would be your dad. What does he say about it? Also Nguyen cao ky was never in comand of any American unit--it would have to be Vietnamese Good luck!
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I know Col. Ky would never have been in command of an American unit. I think technically all of the pilots were "observers" or "advisors", even though they did the actual flying. Each time one of the planes went up it had one American in the cockpit and one South Vietnamese. I think this is where I am having proplems with the Air Force. All of the guys had to be under some kind of US chain of command even though they were flying with a VNAF unit. This is why I am looking for help or anyone who knows anything about the Dirty Thirty. Todd |
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Ky
survived and is in the US I think. Maybe you can try and find him....a google etc. should do that....and write him. Just a thought.
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In the VNAF, Transportation Squadrons had three digit numbers starting with "4".
Maybe this will help... Squadron - Wing - Division - Location - Primary Aircraft 413th Transport Squadron 53rd Tactical Wing 5th Air Division Tan Son Nhut C-119 Flying Boxcar 415th Transport Squadron 33rd Tactical Wing 5th Air Division Tan Son Nhut C-47 421st Transport Squadron 53rd Tactical Wing 5th Air Division Tan Son Nhut C-123 Provider 423rd Transport Squadron 53rd Tactical Wing 5th Air Division Tan Son Nhut C-123 Provider 425th Transport Squadron 53rd Tactical Wing 5th Air Division Tan Son Nhut C-123 Provider 427th Transport Squadron 51st Tactical Wing 1st Air Division Da Nang C-7 Caribou 429th Transport Squadron 82nd Tactical Wing 6th Air Division Phu Cat C-7 Caribou 431st Transport Squadron 82nd Tactical Wing 6th Air Division Phu Cat C-7 Caribou 435th Transport Squadron 53rd Tactical Wing 5th Air Division Tan Son Nhut C-130A 437th Transport Squadron 53rd Tactical Wing 5th Air Division Tan Son Nhut C-130A
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