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Old 04-06-2011, 02:16 PM
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Get Out the Word: Military Pay in Question, and What You Can Do

posted at 2:58 pm on April 6, 2011 by J.E. Dyer

Signals from the White House have been firming up this week on whether paychecks will continue for active duty military during a government shutdown. Unfortunately, as of today (Wednesday, 6 April), the trend is in a negative direction. The mainstream media are reporting that there’s a good chance military pay will be suspended after 8 April. In practical terms, this means there will be a 15 April paycheck containing pay through the 8th (half the normal semi-monthly amount), and nothing after that until the shutdown is over.

Obviously, there are questions about why the Obama administration is emitting signals like this. They are politically stupid; no significant constituency thinks the US budget battle has to be fought across the monthly bills of our fighting men and women.

The possibility that the military will be required to continue on duty without pay also highlights one of the important differences between the military and the rest of the federal government. The government can’t require its civilian work force to operate without pay. Its only options, with the civilian work force, are furloughing employees and shutting down services. The civilian work force is protected by union agreements and labor laws in this regard. The troops are not.

We can hope that Democrats in Congress will help Obama think better of waging the fight in this manner. Things may well look different by Friday. But if you want to help things look different, contact your senators and US representative about two bills that were introduced in the last week to ensure that the active duty military keeps getting paid.

Reps. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) and Jack Kingston (R-GA) sponsored H.R. 1297, the House version of the Ensuring Pay for Our Military Act. The status of the bill at the moment is unclear, but this report indicates it was still in committee as of Tuesday, 5 April.

Senators Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) and Bob Casey Jr. (D-PA) introduced the Senate version of the Ensuring Pay for Our Military Act, S. 724, today. It’s too early for information on its status.

If this issue is not resolved by Friday, and you want to help the families of active duty military members (many of whom are young, with kids, and live paycheck to paycheck), the service aid/relief societies are a good place to start. They specialize in providing food, household items, short-term loans, and other assistance to military families in distress. If there is an extended federal government shutdown (which we can reasonably hope will not be the case), the relief societies will quickly be stretched to the max. They will appreciate donations. Here are their websites:

Army Emergency Relief

Navy-Marine Corps Relief Society

Air Force Aid Society

Coast Guard Mutual Assistance

We don’t have to let the troops down. I know Americans will step up to the plate on this one.

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Old 04-06-2011, 02:52 PM
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Pence Supports One-Week CR/Year-Long Defense Bill



5:07 PM, Apr 6, 2011 • By JOHN MCCORMACK


Mike Pence has been one of the leading opponents of the short-term budget bills, but says he's on board for Boehner's proposed stopgap that will fund the government for one week and the Department of Defense for the remainder of the year:
“While I am frustrated that liberals in the Senate continue to resist our efforts to include even modest cuts in this year's budget, I will support a one-week Continuing Resolution because the troops come first. H.R. 1363 will fully fund the Department of Defense for the rest of this fiscal year and will reduce spending by $12 billion.

“We cannot put fiscal battles ahead of support for those who are fighting America’s real battles.

“We will not change the fiscal destiny of this nation without a fight. I am willing to keep fighting for one more week to ensure our men and women in uniform have the resources they need to get the job done and come home safe.

“I urge my colleagues in the Senate to enact the significant budget cuts in this resolution, fund our troops and join with us in changing the fiscal direction of the national government.”
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Old 04-07-2011, 09:11 AM
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I just hope every veteran and active duty type remembers the political party mostly responsible for delaying the warriors' pay, and the first letter of that party is "D". These incompetent dolts have had since last August to pass an annual budget, and have been playing political games ever since.
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Obama: I’ll veto funding for the troops

posted at 1:25 pm on April 7, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
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Consider this a trap well set and sprung. Frustrated that the Senate won’t pass any budget bill while the House continues to negotiate to the brink of a government shutdown, John Boehner proposed a one-week CR to keep government open for a week and to secure defense funding through the end of the year. A few minutes ago, the White House stated categorically that it would veto the one-week CR if it passes the Senate in an e-mail blast, underscoring in original:
The Administration strongly opposes House passage of H.R. 1363, making appropriations for the Department of Defense for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2011, and for other purposes. As the President stated on April 5, 2011, if negotiations are making significant progress, the Administration would support a short-term, clean Continuing Resolution to allow for enactment of a final bill.

For the past several weeks, the Administration has worked diligently and in good faith to find common ground on the shared goal of cutting spending. After giving the Congress more time by signing short-term extensions into law, the President believes that we need to put politics aside and work out our differences for a bill that covers the rest of the fiscal year. This bill is a distraction from the real work that would bring us closer to a reasonable compromise for funding the remainder of Fiscal Year 2011 and avert a disruptive Federal Government shutdown that would put the Nation’s economic recovery in jeopardy. The Administration will continue to work with the Congress to arrive at a compromise that will fund the Government for the remainder of the fiscal year in a way that does not undermine future growth and job creation and that averts a costly Government shutdown. It is critical that the Congress send a final bill to the President’s desk that provides certainty to our men and women in military uniform, their families, small businesses, homeowners, taxpayers, and all Americans. H.R. 1363 simply delays that critical final outcome.

If presented with this bill, the President will veto it.
Really? Will Obama really argue that he can’t abide a one-week CR so much that he’s willing to shut down the government and leave the troops without income for an indeterminate amount of time? This statement concedes that this bill takes the troops out of the line of fire in the budget debate. Kirsten Powers recognized the obvious, remarking on Twitter: “Can’t believe Obama fell for the “funding the troops” trick. He’ll have to change position on veto threat.”

One source on the Hill thinks that Harry Reid has a weak hand on this, not for the least of reasons that a number of Democrats are already facing tough re-election campaigns in 2012. Do they want a shutdown fight over abortion? Not likely. Moreover, the source points out that the White House statement is nothing than a process argument. The White House doesn’t offer one specific substantive point in opposition to HR1363. This might be a big bluff, but the President may be looking for a way to rally his dispirited base.

Meanwhile, there’s hope for those about to find themselves with lots of free time. Are you a federal worker anxious about government shutdowns? Feeling oddly ambitious lately, and perhaps slightly productive? Consult with your AFSCME or SEIU representative and see if DisplacetraTM is right for you! Laura Ingraham provides some government-shutdown comedy relief today in this mockutisement for relief from the notion that the days of whine and moroses may be ending after all:

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Update: Aha, there is indeed an explanation for this. Military pay in 1995 wasn’t as simple as Clinton releasing the funds. There was a defense appropriations bill in effect during that shutdown. Via Gabe Malor, a report from the Congressional Research Service:
A frequent question is how this compares to the last government shutdown in 1995-1996. There were two shutdowns at that time, one of five days, from November 13 through November 19, 1995, and one of 21 days, from December 15, 1995 through January 5, 1996. The first shutdown was not long enough to affect pay checks, and DOD was not affected by the second because defense appropriations were enacted on December 1, so funding was available.
So it’s not The One’s fault that the military isn’t getting paid. (Well, it is insofar as he and Reid refuse to agree to Boehner’s new resolution, but it’s not solely his fault.) It’s actually … Reid’s and Pelosi’s fault for not passing a 2011 budget last year when they had a chance. The record stands corrected!
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Just an FYI, Veterans in Politics is working with Marine Riders, Blue Star/Yellow Star Mothers, etc. here locally that if they do block pay for our military, they are going to block all access to the federal court house here in Las Vegas, which is where Harry Reid's office is, sometime next week. I've told them it's federal property, but they're pretty determined, which is a great thing. They aren't trying to block access justice, but really to Harry Reid's office, but if you let one in ... you never know where they're heading.
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My daughter works at Tripler Army Hospital got this memo.


Team Army Medicine:

The Army Medical Department, in an attempt to remain proactive in the
event
of a government shutdown and federal employee furlough, must identify
all
civilian employees into excepted or non-excepted categories. Today you
will
be notified by your commanders, directors or supervisors into which
category
your position falls. All of you must report to duty on Monday as usual,
and
in the event of a government shutdown, will be officially told whether
you
are furloughed or not. Whether excepted and working or non-excepted and
furloughed, all employees will be in a no-pay status until an
appropriation
is approved. Excepted employees will accrue pay.

Rest assured, these were very painful decisions by your leaders and were
not
taken lightly. All of you daily make valuable contributions to our
organization, to the AMEDD and to the Army at large. We are as
successful
as we are because of you. Nevertheless, in the lack of an
appropriation, we
must reduce our workforce to the bare essential and in accordance with
very
strict exemption constraints.

Thank you for what you do every day. We look forward to our elected
representatives resolving this fiscal crisis quickly and getting
everyone
back to work. Until then, please know you are a valued member of our
AMEDD
family and team and we are appreciative of the professional and
dedicated
manner in which you support the AMEDD's mission on a daily basis.
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