ANGLICO at Nha Be

In 1969 I visited a TOC at NAVSUPPACT Saigon's Nha Be location.

I'm pretty sure I met some U.S. Marine ANGLICO personnel in the TOC.

At that time, I thought that was unusual, because I knew Marines
were pretty scarce in III Corps and IV Corps.

Can somebody confirm that Marine ANGLICO people were in Nha Be in 1969?

Richard Rongstad wrote:
>
> In 1969 I visited a TOC at NAVSUPPACT Saigon's Nha Be location.
>
> I'm pretty sure I met some U.S. Marine ANGLICO personnel in the TOC.
>
> At that time, I thought that was unusual, because I knew Marines
> were pretty scarce in III Corps and IV Corps.
>
> Can somebody confirm that Marine ANGLICO people were in Nha Be in 1969?

Well, I know they were in Da Nang in 69-70, and they were usually
assigned to different units
around I Corps and anywhere Naval gunfire was used in support.

Andy Gilbert, who used to post here was with ANGLICO around that time.
Maybe he'll come out of
lurk mode and answer that.

Hey Andy! Where ya at, dude?

Semper Fi,

Jim W.

Are you sure they were Marines? Not Navy in Marine jungle fatigues? All
the ANGLICO I ever saw, and there were a bunch of them in Northern I Corps
working with the Marines and Army units there, were Navy in Marine jungle
fatigues.

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"Richard Rongstad" wrote in message
news:402550D2.29237A90@vikingphoenix.com...
> In 1969 I visited a TOC at NAVSUPPACT Saigon's Nha Be location.
>
> I'm pretty sure I met some U.S. Marine ANGLICO personnel in the TOC.
>
> At that time, I thought that was unusual, because I knew Marines
> were pretty scarce in III Corps and IV Corps.
>
> Can somebody confirm that Marine ANGLICO people were in Nha Be in 1969?

Richard Rongstad wrote:
>In 1969 I visited a TOC at NAVSUPPACT Saigon's Nha Be location.
>
>I'm pretty sure I met some U.S. Marine ANGLICO personnel in the TOC.
>
>At that time, I thought that was unusual, because I knew Marines
>were pretty scarce in III Corps and IV Corps.
>
>Can somebody confirm that Marine ANGLICO people were in Nha Be in 1969?

I was never in the Navy base, but all the personel I ever saw in the area
when I was up the road at the Shell tank farm were Navy. Never saw any
Marines.

Come to think of it, I don't think I saw a Marine the whole time I was
in-country.

In April, 1975, it was just the opposite. I saw ONLY Marines -- no Army,
Navy, or Air Force.

Doug

Richard Rongstad wrote in message news:<402550D2.29237A90@vikingphoenix.com>...
> In 1969 I visited a TOC at NAVSUPPACT Saigon's Nha Be location.
>
> I'm pretty sure I met some U.S. Marine ANGLICO personnel in the TOC.
>
> At that time, I thought that was unusual, because I knew Marines
> were pretty scarce in III Corps and IV Corps.
>
> Can somebody confirm that Marine ANGLICO people were in Nha Be in 1969?

ANGLICO was a mixed Navy/Marine organization. As of January 1969, the
210 ANGLICO personnel in Vietnam were overwhelmingly Marines (195
officers and men were Marines, 15 were Navy).

There were ANGLICO detachments in all four corps tactical zones in
1969. One of them was assigned in support of the U.S. Naval Advisory
Group in the Rung Sat Special Zone. I think Nha Be would have been a
very probable location for this detachment, though I cannot
specifically verify that it was there.

Source: "U.S. Marines in Vietnam: High Mobility and Standdown, 1969"
(the 1969 volume of the USMC official history of the Vietnam War), pp.
316-17.

Ed Moise

eemoise@clemson.edu (Ed Moise) wrote:
>Richard Rongstad wrote in message news:<402550D2.29237A90@vikingphoenix.com>...
>> In 1969 I visited a TOC at NAVSUPPACT Saigon's Nha Be location.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure I met some U.S. Marine ANGLICO personnel in the TOC.
>>
>> At that time, I thought that was unusual, because I knew Marines
>> were pretty scarce in III Corps and IV Corps.
>>
>> Can somebody confirm that Marine ANGLICO people were in Nha Be in 1969?
>
>ANGLICO was a mixed Navy/Marine organization. As of January 1969, the
>210 ANGLICO personnel in Vietnam were overwhelmingly Marines (195
>officers and men were Marines, 15 were Navy).
>
>There were ANGLICO detachments in all four corps tactical zones in
>1969. One of them was assigned in support of the U.S. Naval Advisory
>Group in the Rung Sat Special Zone. I think Nha Be would have been a
>very probable location for this detachment, though I cannot
>specifically verify that it was there.

That would make sense, Ed, as the Rung Sat was right across the river. And
there's no way those guys would have been IN the Rung Sat.

Doug

>Source: "U.S. Marines in Vietnam: High Mobility and Standdown, 1969"
>(the 1969 volume of the USMC official history of the Vietnam War), pp.
>316-17.

meport wrote:
>
> Are you sure they were Marines? Not Navy in Marine jungle fatigues? All
> the ANGLICO I ever saw, and there were a bunch of them in Northern I Corps
> working with the Marines and Army units there, were Navy in Marine jungle
> fatigues.

Why "Marine jungle fatigues"? Why not Navy jungle fatigues?

I detect a misunderstanding of U.S. Navy uniforms in-country.

I digress from ANGLICO - I wore jungle fatigues, slash shirt pockets,
drain holes in the pockets, draw strings in the trousers for blousing,
jungle boots with the steel shank, a standard Navy O.D. cap and my
jungle fatigues were not *Marine jungle fatigues* !! - basically
the same uniform as every guy in-country.

The Navy in general conformed to MACV uniform issue, probably
came from the same warehouse, but sailors usually kept a set
of blue dungarees and a white hat somewhere, officers and chiefs
probably kept a spare set of khakis with pis-cutter and/or
combination cap in a seabag.

The guys I talked to in the Nha Be TOC wore the same uniform I wore,
except maybe for a difference in the cap, I don't recall their
markings of service and rank.

I wore my name and rank embroidered on the jungle shirt.

To see some of the variety of Navy uniforms in Vietnam,
click here:
http://vikingphoenix.com/public/rong...ui_Nhon_ET.htm
Three different kinds of shirts, 2-3 kinds of trousers, 3 different
kinds of hats!

The standard Navy O.D. cap at the time was standard issue for Seabees,
IUWG, other inshore and amphibious units like Beach Jumpers, similar
to the Marine soft cover at the same time, but without the globe and
anchor inked into the front of the crown. When we could get starch and
a Nolan Hat Block and had the time to do it, we would starch our soft
covers, but it just wasn't practical. Most sailors rejected the Army
standard O.D. baseball style cap being issued at the time, preferring
the Navy style.

Maybe they were strictly Navy ANGLICO at Nha Be. That makes sense after
tossing around these AWV posts about ANGLICO. I just think I remember
they told me they were Marines. Maybe, maybe not.



> --
> If you get what you want, what's to stop you
> from asking for more?
>
> "Richard Rongstad" wrote in message
> news:402550D2.29237A90@vikingphoenix.com...
> > In 1969 I visited a TOC at NAVSUPPACT Saigon's Nha Be location.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure I met some U.S. Marine ANGLICO personnel in the TOC.
> >
> > At that time, I thought that was unusual, because I knew Marines
> > were pretty scarce in III Corps and IV Corps.
> >
> > Can somebody confirm that Marine ANGLICO people were in Nha Be in 1969?

Ed Moise lurked silently and then wrote:
>
> Richard Rongstad wrote in message news:<402550D2.29237A90@vikingphoenix.com>...
> > In 1969 I visited a TOC at NAVSUPPACT Saigon's Nha Be location.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure I met some U.S. Marine ANGLICO personnel in the TOC.
> >
> > At that time, I thought that was unusual, because I knew Marines
> > were pretty scarce in III Corps and IV Corps.
> >
> > Can somebody confirm that Marine ANGLICO people were in Nha Be in 1969?
>
> ANGLICO was a mixed Navy/Marine organization. As of January 1969, the
> 210 ANGLICO personnel in Vietnam were overwhelmingly Marines (195
> officers and men were Marines, 15 were Navy).
>
> There were ANGLICO detachments in all four corps tactical zones in
> 1969. One of them was assigned in support of the U.S. Naval Advisory
> Group in the Rung Sat Special Zone. I think Nha Be would have been a
> very probable location for this detachment, though I cannot
> specifically verify that it was there.
>
> Source: "U.S. Marines in Vietnam: High Mobility and Standdown, 1969"
> (the 1969 volume of the USMC official history of the Vietnam War), pp.
> 316-17.
>
> Ed Moise

Thanks Ed, nice to know you are lurking.

Your answer bolsters my contention that I talked to Marines
that day in the Nha Be TOC.

But why do you think Nha Be would be a probable location and
wouldn't Cat Lo be a lot closer to the Rung Sat?

Richard Rongstad wrote:
>Ed Moise lurked silently and then wrote:
>>
>> Richard Rongstad wrote in message news:<402550D2.29237A90@vikingphoenix.com>...
>> > In 1969 I visited a TOC at NAVSUPPACT Saigon's Nha Be location.
>> >
>> > I'm pretty sure I met some U.S. Marine ANGLICO personnel in the TOC.
>> >
>> > At that time, I thought that was unusual, because I knew Marines
>> > were pretty scarce in III Corps and IV Corps.
>> >
>> > Can somebody confirm that Marine ANGLICO people were in Nha Be in 1969?
>>
>> ANGLICO was a mixed Navy/Marine organization. As of January 1969, the
>> 210 ANGLICO personnel in Vietnam were overwhelmingly Marines (195
>> officers and men were Marines, 15 were Navy).
>>
>> There were ANGLICO detachments in all four corps tactical zones in
>> 1969. One of them was assigned in support of the U.S. Naval Advisory
>> Group in the Rung Sat Special Zone. I think Nha Be would have been a
>> very probable location for this detachment, though I cannot
>> specifically verify that it was there.
>>
>> Source: "U.S. Marines in Vietnam: High Mobility and Standdown, 1969"
>> (the 1969 volume of the USMC official history of the Vietnam War), pp.
>> 316-17.
>>
>> Ed Moise
>
>Thanks Ed, nice to know you are lurking.
>
>Your answer bolsters my contention that I talked to Marines
>that day in the Nha Be TOC.
>
>But why do you think Nha Be would be a probable location and
>wouldn't Cat Lo be a lot closer to the Rung Sat?

Well, now there's a familiar name . . . . . but I don't remember where it was.

Doug

I was at Naval Support Activity, Detachment Nha Be from 12/68 to 5/70 ...and
was the Postal Clerk in Charge at the Nha Be post office. With that, I can
say there were definitely NO marines assigned to or TAD that base ...at
least during my stay. If they were there, then they stayed well hidden and
didn't get any mail. But then again, it has been said that marines are good
at being invisible. Ok, bet I'll pull out an old marine on that one.

Rich

P.S. - and I spent a day in Nha Be last March ...sure brought back some
memories.
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"Richard Rongstad" wrote in message
news:402550D2.29237A90@vikingphoenix.com...
> In 1969 I visited a TOC at NAVSUPPACT Saigon's Nha Be location.
>
> I'm pretty sure I met some U.S. Marine ANGLICO personnel in the TOC.
>
> At that time, I thought that was unusual, because I knew Marines
> were pretty scarce in III Corps and IV Corps.
>
> Can somebody confirm that Marine ANGLICO people were in Nha Be in 1969?