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Old 01-20-2004, 12:19 PM
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Default How John Kerry Helped Hanoi Jane During JFK's Vietnam War! Kerry Call Viet Vets' "Baby killers" JFK - His Hero - Started The War!

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Looks like Kerry was spitting on Vietnam Vets during JFK's Vietnam War
and he always talks about JFK - the guy who started the Vietnam War.

Denouncing America with ‘Hanoi' Jane: Although Wesley Clark and others
have attacked former front-runner Howard Dean as a draft-dodging ski
bum, Kerry is far more complex than the simple war hero he portrays
himself as.
He became a celebrated organizer for one of America's most extreme
appeasement groups, Vietnam Veterans Against the War. He consorted
with the likes of "Hanoi" Jane Fonda and Ramsey Clark, Lyndon
Johnson's radical former attorney general.

He attended a seminar bankrolled by Fonda in Detroit in February 1971.
Watching 125 self-proclaimed Vietnam veterans testify at a Howard
Johnson's about atrocities allegedly committed by U.S. forces, the man
who would be president later said he found the accounts shocking and
irrefutable.

Dubbed "The Winter Soldier Investigation," the protest attracted
minimal media attention, according to the Los Angeles Times, because
Fonda insisted it be held in the remote Michigan city rather than the
less "authentic" Washington, D.C.


Those evil American soldiers: Testifying before the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee on April 23, 1971, Kerry claimed that U.S.
soldiers had "raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from
portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off
limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages,
shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally
ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam."

‘We are not the best': In his testimony, Kerry claimed there was no
communist threat and said: "In 1970 at West Point Vice President Agnew
said ‘some glamorize the criminal misfits of society while our best
men die in Asian rice paddies to preserve the freedom which most of
those misfits abuse,' and this was used as a rallying point for our
effort in Vietnam. But for us, as boys in Asia whom the country was
supposed to support, his statement is a terrible distortion from which
we can only draw a very deep sense of revulsion, and hence the anger
of some of the men who are here in Washington today. It is a
distortion because we in no way consider ourselves the best men of
this country …."
U.S. Veteran Dispatch noted in 1996: "Kerry's testimony, it should be
noted, occurred while some of his fellow Vietnam veterans were known
by the world to be enduring terrible suffering as prisoners of war in
North Vietnamese prisons. Kerry was a supporter of the ‘People's Peace
Treaty,'" a supposed ‘people's' declaration to end the war, reportedly
drawn up in communist East Germany. It included nine points, all of
which were taken from Viet Cong peace proposals at the Paris peace
talks as conditions for ending the war."


Throw as I say, not as I do: On that same day he led members of VVAW
in a protest during which they threw their medals and ribbons over a
fence in front of the U.S. Capitol.
Kerry later admitted the medals he threw were not his. To this day
they hang on the wall of his office.


Communist stooge: The communist Daily World delightedly published
photos of him speaking to demonstrators and boasted that the marchers
displayed a banner depicting a portrait of Communist Party leader
Angela Davis, on record stating, "I am dedicated to the overthrow of
your system of government and your society," the New American recalled
in May 2003.
"By frequently participating in VVAW's demonstrations, Kerry found
himself marching alongside what the Boston Herald Traveler identified
as ‘revolutionary Communists.' While noting that known Reds had openly
organized these events, the December 12, 1971 Herald Traveler reported
the presence of an ‘abundance of Vietcong flags, clenched fists raised
in the air, and placards plainly bearing legends in support of China,
Cuba, the USSR, North Korea and the Hanoi government.'"

Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry says: "As a national leader of
VVAW, Kerry campaigned against the effort of the United States to
contain the spread of Communism. He used the blood of servicemen still
in the field for his own political advancement by claiming that their
blood was being shed unnecessarily or in vain.

"Under Kerry's leadership, VVAW members mocked the uniform of United
States soldiers by wearing tattered fatigues marked with pro-communist
graffiti. They dishonored America by marching in demonstrations under
the flag of the Viet Cong enemy."

Sen. John McCain revealed that his North Vietnamese captors had used
reports of Kerry-led protests to taunt him and his fellow prisoners.
Retired General George S. Patton III angrily noted that Kerry's
actions had "given aid and comfort to the enemy."

In recent years when Kerry has exploited the Vietnam Veterans Memorial
for photo opportunities on Veterans Day, some veterans, still outraged
by his betrayal, have turned their backs on him.


The book he doesn't want you to see: When Kerry ran for election to
the U.S. House of Representative in 1972, "he found it necessary to
suppress reproduction of the cover picture appearing on his own book,
The New Soldier. His political opponent pointed out that it depicted
several unkempt youths crudely handling an American flag to mock the
famous photo of the U.S. Marines at Iwo Jima," according to Vietnam
Veterans Against John Kerry.
"Suddenly, copies of the book became unavailable and even disappeared
from libraries. But the Lowell (Mass.) Sun said of the type of person
shown on its cover: ‘These people spit on the flag, they burn the
flag, they carry the flag upside down, [and] they all but wipe their
noses with it in their efforts to show their contempt for everything
it still stands for,'" the New American reported.

Even today it is hard to find this infamous photo and book.


Sleeping with the enemy: Kerry's fondness for Vietnam's communist
dictatorship, one of the most oppressive in the world, continues.
As chairman of the Select Senate Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, created
in 1991 to investigate reports that U.S. prisoners of war and soldiers
designated missing in action were still alive in Vietnam, Kerry
badgered the panel into voting that no American servicemen remained in
Vietnam.

"[N]o one in the United States Senate pushed harder to bury the
POW/MIA issue, the last obstacle preventing normalization of relations
with Hanoi, than John Forbes Kerry," noted U.S. Veteran Dispatch.

"But Kerry's participation in the Committee became controversial in
December 1992," reported the nonpartisan Center for Public Integrity,
"when Hanoi announced that it had awarded Colliers International, a
Boston-based real estate company, an exclusive deal to develop its
commercial real estate potentially worth billions. Stuart Forbes, the
CEO of Colliers, is Kerry's cousin."

The "odd coincidence," according to FrontPageMagazine.com, involved a
deal worth $905 million.

Jeff Jacoby, the token conservative columnist at the Boston Globe,
notes that Kerry continues his apologia for Vietnam's never-ending
atrocities. "Far from taking the lead on the Vietnam Human Rights
Bill, he has prevented it from coming to a vote. He claims that making
an issue of Hanoi's repression would be counterproductive."


Kerry is also a fan of China's communist dictatorship. "On May 19,
1994, five years after Tiananmen Square, Kerry spoke on the Senate
floor against linking China's Most Favored Nation trade status to its
human rights record," Slate reported.

Kerry said: "China is the strongest military power in Asia. We need
China's cooperation. We cannot afford to adopt a cold-war kind of
policy that merely excludes and pushes China away." Limiting China's
MFN status "would make us a bit player in a production of enormous
proportions. We possess no stick, including MFN, which can force China
to embrace internationally recognized human rights and freedoms."


More extreme than Hillary and Kucinich: Among the White House
wannabes, long-shot Rep. Dennis Kucinich has the reputation of holding
the most left-wing congressional voting record. In fact, this "honor"
goes to Kerry.
According to American Conservative Union, Kerry has a lifetime rating
of 6 percent, compared to 13 for the demolished Rep. Dick Gephardt, 14
for Sen. John Edwards, 15 for Kucinich and 19 for Sen. Joe Lieberman.

Sens. Hillary Clinton and Tom Daschle score 13 percent. Only the likes
of Sens. Teddy Kennedy and Barbara Boxer have more left-wing records
than Kerry. In contrast, Sen. John Breaux, one of the upper chamber's
few remaining moderate Democrats, has a 46.



Drive as I say, not as I do: Like Al Gore and other self-described
environmentalists, Kerry has a radical agenda that would devastate the
U.S. economy in favor of the likes of communist China, yet he enjoys
the gas-guzzling modern conveniences that greens denounce. Kerry, a
delegate to the environment-destroying Earth Summit in 1992 (where he
met his future wife, left-wing activist Teresa Heinz, the
multimillionaire widow of GOP Sen. John Heinz), the Kyoto climate
talks in 1997 and the Hague Conference of the U.N. Framework
Convention on Climate Change in 2000, has attacked President Bush for
withdrawing from the anti-U.S. Kyoto Protocol. This treaty, which
then-President Bill Clinton had signed, would impose severe
restrictions on the United States but not Third World polluters that
already enjoy huge trade surpluses with the U.S.
However, although Kerry spouts the party line on anti-U.S. ecopolicy,
he doesn't like to practice what he preaches. NewsMax.com humiliated
him in April 2002 by publishing photos of him attending an
anti-energy-independence rally and then heading back to his SUV, the
symbol of all that is evil to greens.


Bone to pick: Bush-hating conspiracy theorists find it alarming that
the president, like his father, was a member of the secretive Skull
and Bones society at Yale University. Another alum of this club: John
Kerry.

Waffling on Iraq: Kerry has the tough job of wooing Howard Dean's
anti-war Democrats despite his support of the war in Iraq. His
favorite tactic, claiming the president outfoxed him, doesn't hold up
to scrutiny.
On "Meet the Press" in late August, Tim Russert played a tape of Kerry
addressing the Senate in October 2002 with a hard-line speech
declaring Iraq "capable of quickly producing weaponizing" of
biological weapons that could be delivered against "the United States
itself."

Kerry insisted: "That is exactly the point I'm making. We were given
this information by our intelligence community."

However, as columnist Robert Novak noted, "as a senator, Kerry had
access to the National Intelligence Estimate that was skeptical of
Iraqi capability. Being tricky may no longer be as effective
politically as it once was."

No doubt Dean, Lieberman, Clark and other rivals will now use these
and other details to do to Kerry what the Democrats did to Dean.
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Old 01-20-2004, 03:39 PM
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Tell us about how AWOL Bush helped Hanoi Jane by going AWOL.
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Old 01-20-2004, 04:54 PM
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On 20 Jan 2004 1259 -0800, arnold_wolfcastle_gupta@yahoo.co.in
(Arnold Wolfcaste) wrote:

>http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...0/131219.shtml
>
>Looks like Kerry was spitting on Vietnam Vets during JFK's Vietnam War
>and he always talks about JFK - the guy who started the Vietnam War.


JFK didn't start that mess, IKE and Nixon did. grow up and get you
facts straight. All you republicans do is lie lie lie!!!
>
>Denouncing America with ‘Hanoi' Jane: Although Wesley Clark and others
>have attacked former front-runner Howard Dean as a draft-dodging ski
>bum, Kerry is far more complex than the simple war hero he portrays
>himself as.
>He became a celebrated organizer for one of America's most extreme
>appeasement groups, Vietnam Veterans Against the War.


Excuse me asshole but it was this group that forced Nixon to end his
corporate welfare system (called the Viet Nam War). All the right
wing proto-yuppies with thie long hair and beads did nothing but throw
tantrums because they didn't want to join the Army and do as they were
told for a change. I am a Viet Nam Vet and I support that group.

>He consorted
>with the likes of "Hanoi" Jane Fonda and Ramsey Clark, Lyndon
>Johnson's radical former attorney general.


so now FREEDOM of ASSOCIATION is crime against the Bush Reich????
Bush, Rockafella and other Republicans consorted with Hitler but
that's OK with you I see. And lets not forget Reagan's support of Bin
laden and Saddam and Bush's support of the Terrorist group called the
CONTRAS. That's OK with you too I see.
>
>He attended a seminar bankrolled by Fonda in Detroit in February 1971.
>Watching 125 self-proclaimed Vietnam veterans


Excuse me but your either a vet or your not. Again you lie.

>testify at a Howard
>Johnson's about atrocities allegedly committed by U.S. forces, the man
>who would be president later said he found the accounts shocking and
>irrefutable.


So I guess opposing a republican administration (and a damned crooked
one at that) is now high treason???? How Tory of you.
>
>Dubbed "The Winter Soldier Investigation," the protest attracted
>minimal media attention, according to the Los Angeles Times, because
>Fonda insisted it be held in the remote Michigan city rather than the
>less "authentic" Washington, D.C.
>
>
>Those evil American soldiers: Testifying before the Senate Foreign
>Relations Committee on April 23, 1971, Kerry claimed that U.S.
>soldiers had "raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from
>portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off
>limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages,
>shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally
>ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam."


And the congress found the charges to be true. Put CIA*Phoenix into
google and you'll get 113,000 hits on the subject. Project Phoenx was
started by the CIA in 1967 and did some awful stuff. They used their
own people plus US Military people one of which I knew 15 years back.
>
>‘We are not the best': In his testimony, Kerry claimed there was no
>communist threat and said: "In 1970 at West Point Vice President Agnew


Is this the same Spiro Agnew that had to resign because he was such a
crook and got caught???

>said ‘some glamorize the criminal misfits of society while our best
>men die in Asian rice paddies to preserve the freedom which most of
>those misfits abuse,' and this was used as a rallying point for our
>effort in Vietnam. But for us, as boys in Asia whom the country was
>supposed to support, his statement is a terrible distortion from which
>we can only draw a very deep sense of revulsion, and hence the anger
>of some of the men who are here in Washington today. It is a
>distortion because we in no way consider ourselves the best men of
>this country …."


>U.S. Veteran Dispatch noted in 1996: "Kerry's testimony, it should be
>noted, occurred while some of his fellow Vietnam veterans were known
>by the world to be enduring terrible suffering as prisoners of war in
>North Vietnamese prisons.


Inlcuding Republican John McCain who the Bush camp savaged and
mistreated during the primaries.

>Kerry was a supporter of the ‘People's Peace
>Treaty,'" a supposed ‘people's' declaration to end the war, reportedly
>drawn up in communist East Germany. It included nine points, all of
>which were taken from Viet Cong peace proposals at the Paris peace
>talks as conditions for ending the war."


SO? If someone says a certain kind of food tastes good do you spit it
out cause a commie said it??? Both communism and capitalism have good
parts but of course both are evil. If you take the best parts of each
system and combine it into a new system you are a winner.
>
>
>Throw as I say, not as I do: On that same day he led members of VVAW
>in a protest during which they threw their medals and ribbons over a
>fence in front of the U.S. Capitol.


Its a common tradition in other countries and there's even a trade
where you buy medals like yours to use in the protest.

>Kerry later admitted the medals he threw were not his. To this day
>they hang on the wall of his office.


SO? I have original medals, wings and ribbons and a second set I wear
in parades and the like. I get them from
http://www.ultrathin.com/products.htm
and I'm plugging them because they do a decent job for a good price.
>
>
>Communist stooge:


And Bush is a capitalist stooge, what's your point?

>The communist Daily World delightedly published
>photos of him speaking to demonstrators and boasted that the marchers
>displayed a banner depicting a portrait of Communist Party leader
>Angela Davis, on record stating, "I am dedicated to the overthrow of
>your system of government and your society," the New American recalled
>in May 2003.
>"By frequently participating in VVAW's demonstrations, Kerry found
>himself marching alongside what the Boston Herald Traveler identified
>as ‘revolutionary Communists.' While noting that known Reds had openly
>organized these events, the December 12, 1971 Herald Traveler reported
>the presence of an ‘abundance of Vietcong flags, clenched fists raised
>in the air, and placards plainly bearing legends in support of China,
>Cuba, the USSR, North Korea and the Hanoi government.'"
>
>Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry says: "As a national leader of
>VVAW, Kerry campaigned against the effort of the United States to
>contain the spread of Communism.


What bullshit. By that time we knew what was really going on. The
war was about protecting the oil leases David Rockafella had in the
South China Sea, about keeping republican owned war plants prfitable
(Plus some democrats too) and about paranoia and lies.

Once I Nam I asked a Viet about this BS about fighting in VN to not
fight in America and he said. "No fight in America, too cold there".

>He used the blood of servicemen still
>in the field for his own political advancement by claiming that their
>blood was being shed unnecessarily or in vain.


and he saved lives of other servicemen. Its just like today in Iraq.
There are things worth fighting for but by the 1970's Viet Nam was not
one of them.
>
>"Under Kerry's leadership, VVAW members mocked the uniform of United
>States soldiers by wearing tattered fatigues marked with pro-communist
>graffiti. They dishonored America by marching in demonstrations under
>the flag of the Viet Cong enemy."


What lieing pig you are!!! You know NOITHING about what we Vets do.
It is our custome to wear part of our uniforms as a sign that the war
is only half over for us. The first half was in Viet Nam and the
second half was when we got back and treated like trash by you draft
dodging republican Tory traitors!!! The war was 30 years ago and I
still use the top of my TIGER SUIT in American Parades (I"m in
Australia right now and you march with a suit with your medals) and it
can get faded and a bit tattored in 30 years.
>
>Sen. John McCain revealed that his North Vietnamese captors had used
>reports of Kerry-led protests to taunt him and his fellow prisoners.


So that was justification for the crap way you republicans and other
neo-con pigs treated him during the last primaries. Why hipocrits
you are.

>Retired General George S. Patton III angrily noted that Kerry's
>actions had "given aid and comfort to the enemy."


Mush like the Bush family gave aid, comfort, oil and supplies to
Hitler in WW2???
>
>In recent years when Kerry has exploited the Vietnam Veterans Memorial
>for photo opportunities on Veterans Day, some veterans, still outraged
>by his betrayal, have turned their backs on him.


Just like I would if Bush ever had the balls to show up at the Wall.
What disgrace, a coward at the wall of heros.

The rest of your BS is snipped.

Time for you to wake up and smell the 21st century. Communism and the
USSR died 14 years ago yet you keep looking for red dust bunnies under
your bed.

The enemy today is globalization, the New World Order and Bush. These
3 are far worse than communism or fascism. Hidnsight is always 20-20
and we know now that Viet Nam was a big mistake. Those of us who were
there believed in what we were doing then (my time was 66-67) but I
think differently now. Jane Fonda is a pig who did what she did to
further her movie career and is the Sarah Brady or Michael Moore of
the 60's. Other Veterans saw the light much earlier than I did and
were major actors in the VNVAW.

You have to hand them one thing. Unlike draft dodging scum like
Clinton, Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitzt etc etc, the Vets didn't have a
hidden agenda like the hippie/proto-yuppies who didn't want their
pretty little corporate careers interupted. We were ther, we saw some
of the crooked stuff going on and we objected when we could.

THOM
Unlike Bush and the Bush white House (save Powell), a Viet nam vet

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Old 01-20-2004, 05:15 PM
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Posted by: arnold_wolfcastle_gupta@yahoo.co.in (Arnold Wolfcaste)

>Looks like Kerry was spitting on Vietnam Vets during JFK's Vietnam War
>and he always talks about JFK - the guy who started the Vietnam War.


Yeah, I heard he gave the notes to the camp commandant and makes his
hamburgers with *worms*! (I read it on the Internet.)

Jones
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Fair and Balanced Hyco-Limbaugh Fart Detector wrote in message news:<400dbbfd.178438171@news.supernews.com>...
> Tell us about how Bush helped Hanoi Jane by going AWOL.


Bush would not go near Hanoi Janes because she was too bust spreading
her STDs (sexually transmitted diseases) to all of her Viet Cong
boyfriends.


Meanwhile Kerry was pissing on his Vietnam buddies while fawning over
his hero JFK who started the Vietnam War.
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Old 01-20-2004, 07:13 PM
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Arnold Wolfcaste wrote:

> Fair and Balanced Hyco-Limbaugh Fart Detector wrote in message news:<400dbbfd.178438171@news.supernews.com>...
> > Tell us about how Bush helped Hanoi Jane by going AWOL.

>
> Bush would not go near Hanoi Janes because she was too bust spreading
> her STDs (sexually transmitted diseases) to all of her Viet Cong
> boyfriends.
>
> Meanwhile Kerry was pissing on his Vietnam buddies while fawning over
> his hero JFK who started the Vietnam War.


What were the GOP war wimps doing?


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>>>>
Looks like Kerry was spitting on Vietnam Vets during JFK's Vietnam War
and he always talks about JFK - the guy who started the Vietnam War.
>>>>


JFK started the war? It is sad that an outspoken american like you don't
know your history. "The Fog of war" a documentary film by McNamara will
open to bigger screens in February 6. In the document and on McNamara taped
conversations with JFK, the President was prepared to pull all military
advisers out of vietnam near his assignation attemp. In other words and
according to McNamara, there would NOT be a Vietnam War if JFK survived.
And no, the war was not started from 1960 to 1963 during JFK term. To be
technically correct, the war started in september 2 1945, the hour after WW
II ended.

And Kerry did not say that all Vietnam vet are baby killers. He said there
was wide spread astrocities committed with the generals not doing anything
to stop it. Among those war criminals are Bob Kerry the senator from
nebraka, Colin Power the current secreatary of state.


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Old 01-20-2004, 09:03 PM
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>>>.
Meanwhile Kerry was pissing on his Vietnam buddies while fawning over
his hero JFK who started the Vietnam War.
>>>>


I say some of Vietnam War vets in here should be thankful because of kerry
action by vigourly protest in DC that helped end the war. If the war would
drag for another decade, tens of thousands of Vietnam vets would have fallen
in foreign soil, many of vietnam folks we are chatting right now would have
been long gone. The war was not only bankupt us, it was totally immoral.
It took away American pride of its history. It took away american
democratic principles. It was absolutely could not be won.


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Old 01-20-2004, 09:47 PM
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Arnold Wolfcaste wrote:
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> Fair and Balanced Hyco-Limbaugh Fart Detector wrote in message news:<400dbbfd.178438171@news.supernews.com>...
> > Tell us about how Bush helped Hanoi Jane by going AWOL.

>
> Bush would not go near Hanoi Janes because she was too bust spreading
> her STDs (sexually transmitted diseases) to all of her Viet Cong
> boyfriends.


Are there any photographs of the Jane Fonda bimbo doing this?
Well, I mean, why not? The Pamela Andersen bimbo and the
Paris Hilton bimbo wanted to suppress their frolics on video.
There is a Jane Fonda mug shot. Why not a Jane Fonda shot record?
Call the free clinics in Berkeley and Santa Monica.

By Viet Cong boyfriends do you mean boyfriends in Hanoi, or boyfriends
in the U.S. universities?

> Meanwhile Kerry was pissing on his Vietnam buddies while fawning over
> his hero JFK who started the Vietnam War.


Well, that's not so much of a stretch.
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