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Old 02-05-2004, 06:00 AM
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Plan To Raise Veterans' Drug Co-Pay Shelved
By RICHARD LARDNER rlardner@tampatrib.com
Published: Feb 4, 2004


TAMPA - With November elections looming, President Bush's administration has backed away from a plan to recoup billions of dollars by charging military retirees substantially more for prescription drugs.

If Bush is re-elected, the proposal is expected to resurface next year, a prospect that doesn't sit well with local and national groups representing retirees.

Dave Braun, president of the Veterans Council of Hillsborough County, said Tuesday the administration is shelving the plan ``so it can look good for the election'' and accused the White House of paying lip service to retirees.

``It's egregious that those who would propose this would attempt to balance the defense health budget on the backs of beneficiaries,'' said Sue Schwartz, deputy director of government relations at the Military Officers Association of America.

The decision to delay suggests the White House is not taking the retired military vote for granted. Last year, the Bush administration was criticized by veterans groups for opposing legislation allowing the concurrent receipt of military retirement pay and disability compensation.

According to budget estimates prepared in December by the Pentagon comptroller, raising prescription drug fees could generate as much as $4.2 billion over five years - money that would help offset the rising cost of military health care programs.

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For brand-name drugs obtained by mail order through the military's Tricare Senior Pharmacy Program, retirees would pay $20 for a 90-day supply, an $11 increase over the current rate. Mail-order generic drugs would cost $10 for a 90-day supply, an increase of $7, according to budget documents.

Bush's budget plan was sent to Congress this week and the plan was not included, said Schwartz and Mark Olanoff, the American Legion's assistant legislative director.
``Proposing these things in budgets in election years is not a good idea,'' Olanoff said.

On his campaign Web site, presidential candidate and Massachusetts senator John Kerry criticizes the president for proposing to ``increase fees and co-payments in an effort to shift the burden for care onto the backs of veterans.''

The Military Officers Association of America reported last month the plan to boost prescription costs was being pushed by the White House's Office of Management and Budget.

The OMB ``elected to shelve the proposal,'' the association reported, after the Pentagon agreed it would study the plan further and make recommendations in the 2006 budget, which will be delivered to Congress in February 2005.

Prescription drug coverage for military retirees has been in place for less than three years, a benefit they earned ``by service to their country,'' Olanoff said.

Norb Ryan, president of the military officers association, wants the Defense Department to include military retiree and veteran organizations in its study.

``To put it bluntly, this is a grossly insensitive and wrong- headed proposal,'' the association said in an alert to its 380,000 members.
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Just wait folks.................IF Bush get re-elected, you can bet your sweet a$$ that THIS will be BACK in the "budget" next year!.....Even the Millitary Officers Association believes so!
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Old 02-05-2004, 06:25 AM
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Gimpy,

Last night on public TV they had the VA budget being discussed.
They are asking for 1.2B to cover 800,000 new vets coming into the system. They did talk about raising the income to 16,6 and still give free non-co-payment on drugs. They also talked about POW and wounded not paying co-pay either.

This is all budget talk and congress will have to act upon the VA administrators request. If they don't get the money the delays on seeing a doctor will go out past 90 days from what I gather.

They also discussed a monthly payment of $21 from Vets who were not injured or disabled to offset additional cost. This was until Medicare kicked in and then it would go up further.

It didn't sound like a win situation to me but I was tired and it was late. Maybe other's were more functionable last night it was on about 12 midnight and I think I dropped off about 12:45 in the morning. So I could have misconstrued some of the details when the eyes are that heavy - if you know what I mean.
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Here's what the head of the PVA had to say in his Congressional testimony yesterday about the latest "budget" fiasco submitted by the Bush administration.

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Capitol Hill Testimony


STATEMENT OF
RICHARD B. FULLER

NATIONAL LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR
PARALYZED VETERANS OF AMERICA


BEFORE THE HOUSE COMMITTEE ON VETERANS? AFFAIRS
CONCERNING THE INDEPENDENT BUDGET
AND THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS? AFFAIRS BUDGET
FOR FISCAL YEAR 2005

FEBRUARY 4, 2004

Mr. Chairman and members of the Committee, as one of the four veterans services organizations publishing The Independent Budget, Paralyzed Veterans of America (PVA) is pleased to present the views of The Independent Budget regarding the funding requirements for the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) health care system for FY 2005.

This is the eighteenth year, PVA, along with AMVETS, Disabled American Veterans and Veterans of Foreign Wars have presented The Independent Budget, a policy and budget document that represents the true funding needs of the Department of Veterans Affairs. The Independent Budget uses commonly accepted estimates of inflation, health care costs and health care demand to reach its recommended levels. This year, the document is endorsed by 31 veterans service organizations, and medical and health care advocacy groups.

Mr. Chairman, we are becoming increasingly troubled by the delays in enacting VA appropriations. In FY 2000, VA appropriations were not enacted until October 20th, in FY 2001 October 27th, in FY 2002 November 26th, in FY 2003 February 20th, and this year, January 23rd. For the past two years alone, the VA health care system has had to struggle along at previous year?s inadequate funding levels for nearly one-third of each year.

This is unacceptable.

These delays directly affect the health care received by veterans. This deplorable state further points to the importance of a mandatory funding mechanism for VA health care. But until that happens, we ask that this Congress move expeditiously to put the necessary funding levels in place by the start of FY 2005. We also are disappointed in the practice of using rescissions as a budgetary mechanism in the omnibus spending bills that have become far too common. These cuts also have real consequences for veterans and their families .

This year, as we did last year, The Independent Budget is presented in the traditional account format. The VA is once again presenting its budget in the format it unveiled last year, a format that did not find wide acceptance. The House Appropriations Committee has adopted its own format. Until this format dispute is settled, and until we have adequate data in which to analyze the VA health care system under whichever format is adopted, we will continue to utilize the traditional account structure. It can become confusing amid the din of competing dollar amounts based upon these different formats, but we ask you to compare oranges to oranges and to bear in mind that attractive numbers may not exactly match reality.

The Administration?s budget request for health care is a shocking one, providing once again a woefully inadequate funding level for sick and disabled veterans. Calling for only a $310 million increase in appropriated dollars, a mere 1.2 percent increase over FY 2004, this is the smallest health care appropriation request of any Administration in nearly a decade. Indeed, the VA Under Secretary for Health testified just last year that the VA requires a 12 to 14 percent increase just to keep its head above water.
In addition, we once again are faced by a request that relies far too heavily on budgetary gimmicks and accounting sleight of hand rather than on real dollars that veterans need. The Administration is again resurrecting its enrollment fee and increased copayment schemes, proposals soundly rejected by both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

And once again we see unrealistic ?management efficiencies? utilized to mask how truly inadequate this budget is. The VA must be accorded real dollars in order to care for real veterans. Shifting costs onto the back of other veterans is not the way to meet this federal responsibility. Punitive copayments and charges are designed not so much to swell projected budget increases as they are to deter veterans from seeking their care at VA medical facilities.

Imagine the effect of these additional costs on those who have no other choice but to get care at VA. We may indeed have the greatest health care system in the world, but if you cannot get in the door we might as well have the worst.

Mr. Chairman, The Independent Budget makes a strong statement in opposition to copayments. The Congress gave the Secretary of Veterans Affairs the authority to set and raise fees. What was once thought of as only an administrative function has now become, in times of tight budgets, an easy way to try and find the dollars to fund health care for veterans. When appropriations are in short supply and demand for health care is high, copayments have become the new way to fund the VA out of the pockets of the veteran patient.

For FY 2005, The Independent Budget recommends a Medical Care amount of $29.791 billion. This figure does not include funds attributed to MCCF, which we believe should be used to augment a sufficient appropriated level of funding. This amount represents an increase of $3.2 billion over the amount provided in FY 2004.
The Independent Budget recommendation is a conservative one.

The VA health care system, in order to fully meet all of its demands and to ameliorate the effects of chronic under-funding, could use many more dollars. The Independent Budget recommendation provides for the impact of inflation on the provision of health care, and mandated salary increases of health care personnel. It provides resources to begin funding the VA?s critical fourth mission to back up the Department of Defense health care system. Make no mistake about it, the VA will be spending money to comply with its new responsibilities in this area, and if specific funding is not included, then these resources will have to come directly from dollars used to care for sick veterans.

It provides increased prosthetics funding and long-term care funding, and provides enough resources, we believe, to enroll Priority 8 veterans. With the VA?s decision to cease enrolling Priority 8 veterans, undertaken only because of the lack of resources, we are losing an entire class of veterans, veterans who are an integral part of the VA health care system.
Of course, these recommendations are only estimates, and our crystal ball is often cloudy. Health care inflation may be higher, or lower than we have estimated. Demand may increase, or decrease. The implications, as they pertain to VA health care funding estimates, of the two-year grant of health care eligibility to recently discharged or released active duty personnel as provided in P.L. 105-363, are difficult to account for. But what we must account for, and provide for, are the necessary resources for the VA to meet its responsibilities, and this Nation?s responsibilities, to sick and disabled veterans. These resources must be provided in hard dollars, and not dollars magically realized out of the thin air of ?management efficiencies? and other budgetary gimmicks.

For Medical and Prosthetic research, The Independent Budget is recommending $460 million. This represents a $54 million increase over the FY 2004 amount, and matches this Committee?s recommendation last year. Sadly, the Administration has proposed cutting research by approximately $21 million.

Accepting this level of $385 million would set the research grant program back six years to FY 1999 funding levels. This program is a vital part of veterans? health care, and an essential mission for our national health care system. We must provide additional dollars for VA research as we provide additional funding for our other national research endeavors. Over the course of five years, the budget for the National Institutes of Health was doubled. We should seek a similar commitment for VA research.

In closing, the VA health care system faces two chronic problems. The first is underfunding which I have already outlined. The second is a lack of consistent funding. The budget and appropriations process over the last number of years demonstrates conclusively how the VA labors under the uncertainty of not only how much money it is going to get, but, equally important, when it is going to get it. No Secretary of Veterans Affairs, no VA hospital director, and no doctor running an outpatient clinic knows how to plan and even provide care on a daily basis without the knowledge that the dollars needed to operate those programs are going to be available when they need them.

Health care delayed is health care denied. If the health care system cannot get the funds it needs when it needs those funds the resulting situation only fuels efforts to deny more veterans health care and charge veterans even more for the health care they receive.

The only solution we can see is for this Committee and the Congress as a whole to approve legislation removing VA health care from the discretionary side of the budget process and making annual VA budgets mandatory. The health care system can only operate properly when it knows how much it is going to get and when it is going to get it.

We look forward to working with this Committee in order to begin the process of moving a bill through the House and Senate as soon as possible.

This concludes my testimony. I will be happy to answer any questions you may have.
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