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Old 09-09-2010, 03:34 PM
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Default Lordly Victimized Americans

Even given obviously Purposeful Muslim Pandering notables like Bloomberg & Obama the benefit of doubt aside, how come Differently Peaceful Religions are Differently either snubbed or insulted (or both) by such lordly rulers?

As reported recently gives an honest though quite troubling example of such.

"Reconstruction of St.Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church near ground zero in Manhattan remains stalled nearly nine years after being destroyed by the falling towers". "It was the only house of worship destroyed on 9/11/01.

Just why-in-the-hell is there even an Officialdom Tie-up for The Greek Orthodox Church, anyway?
This is still Free America,...and NOT YET some Muslim Dictated Nation like Turkey.

Besides, aren't all Greek Orthodox Faithful just as important as Islamic Faithful anymore, here in America?

Also, isn't preferentially or bigottedly favoring Islam OVER All Other Religions actually un-American & insane, at best?

Of course it is fellow: "Lordly Victimized Americans".

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Dhimmitude

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This article is about a neologism. For the Islamic legal concept, see Dhimmi Dhimmi.


Dhimmitude is a Neologism Neologism first found in French_language French_language denoting an attitude of concession, surrender and appeasement towards Islam Islam demands. It is derived by adding the productive Affix Affix -tude to the Arabic_language Arabic_language adjective Dhimmi Dhimmi, which literally means protected and refers to a non-Muslim Muslim subject of a Sharia_law Sharia_law state.


Dhimmitude has several distinct, but related meanings depending on the author; its scope may be historical only, contemporary only, or both. It may encompass the whole system of dhimma, look only at its subjects (dhimmis), or even apply it outside of any established system of dhimma.

Origin

The term was coined in 1982 by the Lebanon Lebanon president and Maronite Maronite militia leader Bachir_Gemayel Bachir_Gemayel, in reference to perceived attempts by the country's Muslim leadership to subordinate the large Lebanese_Christian Lebanese_Christian minority. In a speech of September 14, 1982 given at Dayr al-Salib in Lebanon, he said: "Lebanon is our homeland and will remain a homeland for Christians… We want to continue to christen, to celebrate our rites and traditions, our faith and our creed whenever we wish… Henceforth, we refuse to live in any dhimmitude!"


The concept of "dhimmitude" was introduced into Western discourse by the writer Bat Ye'or in a French-language article published in the Italian journal La Rassegna mensile di Israel in 1983 1983.The term was used in English as early as 1985 in a book review by Prof. James E. Biechler in the Journal of Ecumenical Studies, in which he praised Ye'or's work, commenting that "Perhaps the single most significant contribution of the author is her definition and development of the concept of 'dhimmitude'".


Ye'or further popularised the term in her books The Decline of Eastern Christianity under Islam. From Jihad to Dhimmitude. Seventh-Twentieth Centuryand the 2003 followup Islam_and_Dhimmitude:_Where_Civilizations_Collide Islam_and_Dhimmitude:_Where_Civilizations_Collide After the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the term became far more widely used, particularly in discussions about Islamism Islamism and the Islamization Islamization of the West.
Associations and usage

The associations of the word "dhimmitude" vary between users:
  • Bat Ye'or defined dhimmitude as the condition and experience of those who are subject to dhimma, and thus not synonymous to, but rather a subset of the dhimma phenomenon: "dhimmitude [...] represents a behavior dictated by fear (terrorism), pacifism when aggressed, rather than resistance, servility because of cowardice and vulnerability. [...] By their peaceful surrender to the Islamic army, they obtained the security for their life, belongings and religion, but they had to accept a condition of inferiority, spoliation and humiliation."
  • It may be simply a replacement for the relatively little known (compared to dhimmi) noun dhimma, coined to carry the same meaning.This has already widely happened in French usage where, as in English, "-tude" is a productive suffix.
  • A more recent Pejorative Pejorative usage variant of "dhimmi" and "dhimmitude" divorces the words from the historical context of Jihad Jihad and applies them to situations where non-Muslims in the West and India are championing Islamic causes above others. "Dhimmi" is treated as analogous to "Quisling Quisling" within this context.
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Bat Yeor's definition:
"As for the concept of dhimmitude, it represents a behavior dictated by fear (Terrorism Terrorism), Pacifism Pacifism when aggressed, rather than resistance, servility because of cowardice and vulnerability. The origin of this concept is to be found in the condition of the Infidel Infidel people who submit to the Islamic Islamic rule without fighting in order to avoid the onslaught of Jihad Jihad. By their peaceful surrender to the Islamic army, they obtained the security for their life, belongings and religion, but they had to accept a condition of inferiority, spoliation and humiliation. As they were forbidden to possess weapons and give testimony against a Muslim, they were put in a position of vulnerability and humility."
Bernard_Lewis Bernard_Lewis, Professor Emeritus of Middle_East Middle_East at Princeton_University Princeton_University, states that
"If we look at the considerable literature available about the position of Jews in the Islamic world, we find two well-established myths. One is the story of a golden age of equality, of mutual respect and cooperation, especially but not exclusively in Moorish Spain; the other is of “dhimmi”-tude, of subservience and persecution and ill treatment. Both are myths. Like many myths, both contain significant elements of truth, and the historic truth is in its usual place, somewhere in the middle between the extremes."
Robert Spencer author of The_Myth_of_Islamic_Tolerance The_Myth_of_Islamic_Tolerance defines dhimmitude as:
Dhimmitude is the status that Islamic law, the Sharia, mandates for non-Muslims, primarily Jews and Christians. Dhimmis, “protected” or “guilty” people, are free to practice their religion in a Sharia regime, but are made subject to a number of humiliating regulations designed to enforce the Qur'an's command that they "feel themselves subdued" (Sura 9:29). This denial of equality of rights and dignity remains part of the Sharia, and, as such, are part of the legal superstructure that global jihadists are laboring through violence to restore everywhere in the Islamic world, and wish ultimately to impose on the entire human race.
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Default Blue...,

Thanks for all the Truths about Islam.

Got some of same info previously from FNC (Fox News Channel).
But, not near as much as what you supplied.

Such forces asking why Little (if any?) of such is ever even mentioned on venues of the
mainstream press/media (ABC, CBS & NBC Networks inclusive).

According to what Bernie Goldberg calls: "Lamestream press/media" & Officialdom, everything about Islam is All Wonderful, Caring & Magnifiscent.

Diddly ever reported about: "Dhimmitude" or obvious main objective of Muslims whether Radicals or Moderates (actually those seeming peaceful called: "Stealth Muslims") Being World Domination, by same: "Lamestream Press". Why is that, Blue?

Such can kiss-up & kowtow to Imams all they like. But, they too will be just as vulnerable to Muslim Mass-Murderers: "In The Name of Allah",...and/or similarly no better off than rest of we quite likely; "Defenseless American Targets of Opportunity (men, women, children & babies also)".

Hey,...count me out of that: "Love thy enemies" nonsense.
Me & mine aren't STUPIDLY Politically Correct Martyrs.
Don't throw me under the bus or to lions in the names of: "Sensitivity & Tolerance, fools.

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Cool Recon...

"... why Little (if any?) of such is ever even mentioned on venues of the
mainstream press/media (ABC, CBS & NBC Networks inclusive)."

My assumption is that for them to admit any discussion of dhimmitude would be to simultaneously admit that it exists; which, since it does, would mean that Dubya was correct to liberate Iraq prior to attempting to secure A'stan, and that Rumsfeld did a great job.

Cannot have any of that, of course.
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Default Yeah, Blue.

Got it. I too cannot believe that pompous know-it-all: "Talking Heads" of; "Lamestream" press/media will ever change their Democrat/Marxist/Progressive supportive news slants and/or continuous Overall Misinformings of The Voting Public, FOR CAUSE.

It's just not likely that any of such JOURNALISTS(???) will ever admit being: "In-the-tank" for staunchly; "Share The Wealth" and/or basically Communist Mind Sets,...even though obviously being such type propagandists & Conservative Bashers FOR SO LONG A TIME.

Besides, such Political HACKS (both ways) have always made some pretty-damn-Big-Bucks typically misinforming Americans as Dems/Marxists/Progressives REQUIRE,...and still do.

Yes. Perpetual Lies & Deceits often do pay-off BIG TIME, & especially in press & government.

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Talking our problem

Direct quote from Larry the cable guy:

“Even after the recent Super Bowl victory of the New Orleans
Saints, I have noticed a large number of people implying with bad
jokes that Cajuns aren't smart. I would like to state for the record
that I disagree with that assessment. Anybody that would build a
city 5 feet below sea level in a hurricane zone and fill it with
Democrats is a damn genius”.
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Default Blue...,

Now it all makes sense to me.
Always wondered why people of: "The Big Easy" forwarned about eventual rising waters
left A WHOLE LOT of School Buses to rot under water,...rather than sensibly fill same &
haul-ass or evacuate A WHOLE LOT of People to safe ground.

Hell, even Cajuns must know how to drive a school bus? Wouldn't chu think?

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