On Spain...

[Hardball]

If I have my facts straight, the Socialist street rose up to conquer the existing-Aznar government, in an effort to reaffirm the argument that siding with America actually brought-on the horrendous train bombings last week.

And if I am correct, the authorities found a video tape which detailed Al-Qaeda's link to the massacre... a tape which stated that
"This is part of a settling of old accounts with crusader Spain, the ally of the U.S. in its war against Islam."

Therefore, the Socialists have taken control of Spain via a massacre from Muslim Fascists, who have sworn to take over Spain, based on centuries-old issues... i.e., Spain will be Muslim sooner or later, because centuries-old accounts must be settled.

Yet, the Socialists are sure that Aznar's backing of Bush was the cause.

I am constantly amazed at the Left's passion; its a fervent passion...

One which they bring forth willingly to the forum of battle,

Its a passion presenting a shield made of nothing more than ignorance and arrogance.

Hardball

[Hardball]

P.S...

The Left argues that Al-Qaeda would never side with Iraq because Hussein was too much of a Socialist.

A quite-pondering Hardball

[Seascamp]

It would seem that the Spanish Socialists haven?t done their homework or are doing deceptive political theater. The Iraqi Baath Party are/were Arab Nationalists, to an extreme, and Saddam believed himself to be the reincarnation of ancient Babylonian rulers, or so he postured. Not exactly the makings of a Socialist I?d say unless it is defined as a Socialist dictatorship. In that case, Hitler was a Socialist as well and headed up the National Socialist Workers Party; Aka: NAZI.
And sure, the Moslems have an axe to grind with the Spaniards. The conquered Spaniards rose up kicked out the occupying North African Moors long, long ago. How rude of them long ago Spaniards, eh. Saddam and Osama certainly weren't shower mates but travelers on a similar journey and used each other to the best advantage. Al Qaeda still operates in Iraq right now but I suppose the Spanish Socialists need to have a total disconnect on that reality to make their story and pendings actions seem more digestable.

Scamp

[SuperScout]

At first I thought it was the Big One, you know, the Big One that promises to send the lower portion of the Golden State into the Pacific Ocean, but then I realized that it was simply the knocking, wobbly little knees of the French Socialists, in realizing that they are next in line for a visit from the friendly AlQaeda bombers. For a government to allow a bunch of radical ragheads (Oh, I forgot, we're supposed to be politically correct, acknowledging that those aren't rags, ergo, they can't be ragheads, but little sheets, ergo, little sheetheads) to dictate a nation's foreign policy is cowardice reminiscent of Chamberlain's cratering to Hitler.

Sometimes, nations have to make tough decisions, and if they are gifted to have leaders of integrity, of deep moral convictions, and of strength of character, they can prevail in the face of evil. Doubtless, it took Herculean courage for Nagy to stand up in the face of Soviet invading forces in Hungary, irrespective of the frightful consequences. One of my own personal heroes, Sam Houston, was confronted with similar choices - face the evil of a Mexican dictatorship, or devise and execute a battle plan of such brilliance that not even the numerical superiority of the Mexican Army could overcome. Spain, unfortunately for her, has chosen the easy way out, easy at least temporarily, and will bask in the warm glow of isolationist sunshine, wondering in the very near future about the whereabouts of all the tourists.

[Hardball]

For those who may not have read more than the oft-mentioned quote of Neville Chamberlain...

QUOTATION: My good friends, this is the second time in our history that there has come back from Germany to Downing Street peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts. And now I recommend you to go home and sleep quietly in your beds.

ATTRIBUTION: Neville Chamberlain (1869?1940), British politician, prime minister. speech, Sept. 30, 1938, Downing Street, London. The Penguin Book of Twentieth Century Speeches, ed. Brian MacArthur (1992).

Maybe we can ALL "sleep quietly" when all other nations appease the Islamo-Fascist bow-wave of terror.

Sleepless in San Diego

HB

[BLUEHAWK]

They come and they go... each in their own way and time, and for their own and other's reasons.

Stick with the CINC in time of war.

[1CAVCCO15MED]

It is wrong in this day and age to define the world in terms of left and right. It's what we're used to and it is comfortable but it's an oversimplification. Is Al-Qieda left or right? Doesn't apply. Islam never had a Renaissance, never had a Reformation, it isn't nationalist. In it's origins it was a military religion whose job was to conquer the world. Many of the "Islamic" nations were formerly Christian and were converted at the point of a sword. Lessee now: Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine, Egypt, Lybia, Tunisia, Albania. They built a Mosque on the mount where the Temple of Solomon was desecrating the most holy site in Judaism.. They changed the Hagia Sophia in Constantinople into a mosque. This was the greatest church ever erected in the east and they desecrated it. When Christianity fought back, it was considered an insult to Islam and they never forgot or forgave: Spain, the Crusades, Austria defeating the Turks at the walls of Vienna. The present struggle isn't defined by socialism, communism, etc. Islam is the Antichrist and as such it's goal has always been the conquest and forcible conversion of the world. There are over a billion adherents and they have nuclear weapons.

[Dragon Lady]

Scamp,
He saw himself as the reincarnated ruler of ancient Babylonia? Hmmm, we all know the story of the Tower of Babylon don't we? It fell hard then just like its falling hard now.
Oh and here's another one...."Pride goeth before the fall". Fitting isn't it? In ohhh, so many ways.
My heart goes out to the people of Spain. That fear is so palpable. I see the same look on their faces as I saw on my fellow NY'ers. It was this fear that caused them to change their votes. I suspect that the new party will not last through their next election, when the people see that the terrorists will not actually leave them alone as they hope will happen.

Mark my words...the terrorists will now attempt this same action in the US. But it just might backfire. They hope for a new president and hope that there will be unrest here in the States. Chaos is their true ally. Unity is their enemy. For when we stand united we are a most formidable strength.

[Boats]

I don't think Spain will pull the plug totally because that would send the wrong signals - but you never know? Cutting and running isn't the answer. Once they know you're weaknesses they will continue to push those buttons until you give them what they want. The drug cartel did a good job if you recall.

The root cause is a radical sec that needs to be eliminated from the face of the earth. They can not be re-educated nor can you lock them up in hopes of producing a better person.

Running from these terrorist will bolster their position and make future dealings with them more difficult. I don't feel they have as many supporters as they'd like us to think. Most people are peaqceful. We the US will have to carrry the entire burden and pay the consequences. This alone will toughten our resolve but it impacts our alias.

Stand alone? We must - if push comes to shove. Pay the price "YES we will have to do that - but future relations with other countries will surely factor in down the road.

I don't care how you look at it - we are up to necks the water its still rising.

[Seascamp]

Consider your words marked as the same thoughts flashed on me when I heard the words, threats and promises coming out of the Spanish Socialists. Al Qaeda got a cheep, easy and potentially super easy victory of great significance and now the Spanish Socialists are gobing the icing on the cake. Correct me if I?m wrong, but I have heard zero words of condemnation toward Al Qaeda coming from the Spanish rulers to be. On the other hand, I hear plenty of condemnation of the current Spanish government, of the USA and of the circumstances of the tragedy.

In terms of programmed blind spots, I have heard not a mention of the fact that Al Qaeda has brutalized and killed in places like Turkey, Tunisia, Indonesia, Algeria, Morocco, and Saudi Arabia. And I don?t recall these countries being in on the current Iraq operations and/or their ancestors being allies of the Christian Crusaders of long, long ago. Plus the horrid butchery of innocents inside Iraq and Afghanistan at the hands of Al Qaeda is not on the Spanish Socialist communication agenda either. Then the Spanish Socialists have to absolutely maintain the fantasy that there is not or has ever been any Al Qaeda presents in Iraq.

I really wonder if the Spaniards think they are off the terrorist hook now. Hmmm, they of any in Europe should well know what the next step will be, and it will be, guaranteed.

Scamp