Re: Bush Position Strong

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Posted by: Horvath

>>Somehow, the idea of US soldiers kicking down doors in a sweep for
>>personal weapons disturbs me deeply... and I think that even Bush has
>>finally given up the charade of even pretending to look for WMD.
>
>We found plenty of evidence of WMDs. You've been watching too much
>Cartoon Network.

Yeah, right... same sort of "evidence" we had before the invasion. If
you want to know where the largest stockpile of chemical weapons in
the world is located, check Anniston, GA.

Essentially, what you need to produce legitimate pharmaceuticals will
also crank out toxins. What we found in Iraq, they have all over
Mexico and any other country with an industrial economic base. We
simply did not find one single, solitary weapon of mass destruction...
and until you put one on the table, rap on it with your pointer, and
say, "Here it is," I say that there aren't any. Some apocryphal
report of Ugandan uranium doesn't count; aluminum tubing doesn't
count.

I say this because we've had plenty of time and massive resources to
dedicate to the search. We'll have to do better than a couple of
"fermentation tanks" in a semi-trailer before I'm going to say that
WMD exist.

Don't those images of US soldiers going house to house in the middle
of the night hauling people away bother you? What happens to people
who get caught with guns in those sweeps? Where do the people go when
our forces catch them with a gun in their home? I see images of them
being loaded onto trucks, cuffed and blindfolded...

Jones

> Don't those images of US soldiers going house to house in the middle
> of the night hauling people away bother you? What happens to people
> who get caught with guns in those sweeps? Where do the people go when
> our forces catch them with a gun in their home? I see images of them
> being loaded onto trucks, cuffed and blindfolded...

Oooh that wily Sodamn; he fooled us into invading Iraq and
deposing his despotic regime by pretending to still have and
to still be developing WMD.

What a cunning villain he is. He sure fooled us.

--
Herb Martin

> >Oooh that wily Sodamn; he fooled us into invading Iraq and
> >deposing his despotic regime by pretending to still have and
> >to still be developing WMD.
> >
> >What a cunning villain he is. He sure fooled us.
>
> Well, actually, I think that he has always denied any such activity,
> if you'll go back and look.

Try reality: he used them on Kurds, Iranians, and got caught with
them by the UN -- he also agreed several times to remove and
stop producing them. That he had them is public record.

> Seems like that administration was the
> first to challenge that now discredited African uranium silliness that
> just might unseat Blair.

No, the intelligence has never been discredited AT ALL.
People presumed one specific report was the source (it
wasn't according to the British) and the criticisms of even
that source were not particularly compelling just raised
SOME doubt.

> I mean, *everyone* was saying it was bogus,
> not just the Iraqis.

No, everyone isn't and hasn't said that -- that he had them
was public record; that we have found bits and pieces SINCE
the war is indisputable (unless you try denying reality.)

> My point is that we're there now. IMHO, we'd best quit acting like we
> ever had any reason to invade them and concentrate on making life
> better for the average citizen than it was under Saddam. Right now,

No, we had not only every right but every reason unless you think
Sodamn Insane was a GOOD THING you might as well quit now.


> Yes, Saddam was a brutal dictator; however, he was an Iraqi dictator

There you go, 'nuff said by you.

"!Jones" wrote in message
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> References:
> Posted by: Horvath
>
> >>Somehow, the idea of US soldiers kicking down doors in a sweep for
> >>personal weapons disturbs me deeply... and I think that even Bush has
> >>finally given up the charade of even pretending to look for WMD.
> >
> >We found plenty of evidence of WMDs. You've been watching too much
> >Cartoon Network.
>
> Yeah, right... same sort of "evidence" we had before the invasion. If
> you want to know where the largest stockpile of chemical weapons in
> the world is located

It's buried somewhere in Iraq.

-*MORT*-

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 1404 -0500, !Jones wrote
this crap:

>he was a long way from a philosopher-king; however, the little man on
>the street was a lot better off socially, economically, and
>politically before we invaded than he is now.

You been watching too much Cartoon Network?

>Yes, Saddam was a brutal dictator; however, he was an Iraqi dictator
>and that will cover a multitude of evils when compared to a western
>dictator. If you believe the Arabic media, US forces have killed more
>Iraqis than Saddam ever did.

Are you really that big of an idiot?



Hero@Horvath.net

Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

!Jones wrote:

> References:
> Posted by: Horvath
>
> >>Somehow, the idea of US soldiers kicking down doors in a sweep for
> >>personal weapons disturbs me deeply... and I think that even Bush has
> >>finally given up the charade of even pretending to look for WMD.
> >
> >We found plenty of evidence of WMDs. You've been watching too much
> >Cartoon Network.
>
> Yeah, right... same sort of "evidence" we had before the invasion. If
> you want to know where the largest stockpile of chemical weapons in
> the world is located, check Anniston, GA.
>
> Essentially, what you need to produce legitimate pharmaceuticals will
> also crank out toxins. What we found in Iraq, they have all over
> Mexico and any other country with an industrial economic base. We
> simply did not find one single, solitary weapon of mass destruction...
> and until you put one on the table, rap on it with your pointer, and
> say, "Here it is," I say that there aren't any. Some apocryphal
> report of Ugandan uranium doesn't count; aluminum tubing doesn't
> count.
>
> I say this because we've had plenty of time and massive resources to
> dedicate to the search. We'll have to do better than a couple of
> "fermentation tanks" in a semi-trailer before I'm going to say that
> WMD exist.
>
> Don't those images of US soldiers going house to house in the middle
> of the night hauling people away bother you? What happens to people
> who get caught with guns in those sweeps? Where do the people go when
> our forces catch them with a gun in their home? I see images of them
> being loaded onto trucks, cuffed and blindfolded...
>
> Jones


Thats Anniston,AL., at Bynum Army depot.

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!Jones wrote...

> Don't those images of US soldiers going house to house in
> the middle of the night hauling people away bother you?
> What happens to people who get caught with guns in those
> sweeps? Where do the people go when our forces catch them
> with a gun in their home? I see images of them being
> loaded onto trucks, cuffed and blindfolded...

It's interesting that the far-right wing gunners aren't
shitting in their pants when they see it happening. I'd bet
there are rumors that Iraq is simply a prelude and practice for
the same thing in the US.

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 2340 GMT, "Morton Davis"
wrote this crap:

>
>"Horvath" wrote in message
>news:bir9fi$414$2@206.244.73.185...
>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 1404 -0500, !Jones wrote
>> this crap:
>>
>> >he was a long way from a philosopher-king; however, the little man on
>> >the street was a lot better off socially, economically, and
>> >politically before we invaded than he is now.
>>
>> You been watching too much Cartoon Network?
>>
>> >Yes, Saddam was a brutal dictator; however, he was an Iraqi dictator
>> >and that will cover a multitude of evils when compared to a western
>> >dictator. If you believe the Arabic media, US forces have killed more
>> >Iraqis than Saddam ever did.
>>
>> Are you really that big of an idiot?
>>
>>
>Why are you insulting idiots?

I'm bored. And I'm almost out of that $2.00/gal. vodka.



Hero@Horvath.net

Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

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Posted by: chetah53@yahoo.com (Rob Mosley)

>Yep, two bio-plants(their air-powered feremnters would be inefficient
>for anything else, and the system to big), chemical componets,
>documents, hell even a "suppsoed to be destroyed" centrifuge for
>uranium enrichment in some scientists back yard.

If you want to make the case that someone is armed, then I need to see
weapons, not fermenting tanks. Any good-sized community college has
one or two of those in the biology lab.

>
>But if you want to know what happened to those damned weapons loo into
>SYria, Libya and go to www.frontpagemagazine.com and read what this
>Rumanian General has to say, his name is Mikhinolav or somehtign like
>that.

Fine... there are weapons all over the world (remember Anniston?) I'm
saying that there weren't any in Iraq.

Get back to me when our people actually find one.

Jones

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Posted by: "Morton Davis"

>> Yeah, right... same sort of "evidence" we had before the invasion. If
>> you want to know where the largest stockpile of chemical weapons in
>> the world is located
>
>It's buried somewhere in Iraq.

Bah! It's always been in Anniston, GA.

Would you like to know why it's not in Iraq?

If they had them, then the military has to know where they are so that
they can go get them for use. This means numerous people know their
location. The first person to sing on their location would be wealthy
to the tune of millions of dollars, a new identity, and a family home
in northern California.

You can find ours in the bunkers at Anniston... I told you and I
didn't even get a gazillion dollars for it, (course, that's because
everyone already knows it.) I'm sayin' that somebody would have sold
them by now. Look how fast they sold the fermentation tanks and
looted their own museum... they're fucking animals, I say.

But my primary question is: what about the house to house searches for
personal defense weapons... does that give you pause? Or do human
rights end at the US border? Did the second amendment *grant* a new
right or simply recognize an existing one?

Jones