More dead liberal Californians

[exlrrp]

Well, I can see you conservatives are even going to delete the men from Berkeley who gave their lives in Vietnam. Well, here's some more for you to dis and delete, too.Any place where they'll delete a post with all the men from my home town who died in Vietnam over politics is not the place for me.
Berkeley, Richmond, El Cerrito and others are virtually one town, I grew up in all three. You can count on at least 4 out of 5 of these names as either being a liberal, a democrat, or a son of a liberal or Democrat, its that kind of town (there are Republicans here also)
Conservatives:I knew 8 men on this list, one on the Berkeley list. Do not ever insinuate I do not come from the home of real patriots, you will not like what happens to you. My home state 0f California gave up more men in VN, WWII AND korea than any other also.
Why don?t you tell them what you really think of them? Tell them that what they thought they were fighting for was vile!! Do you believe the words you write? If you believe them and have some cojones, why don?t you write down that some stuff like that last post on Siberia again verbatim?? It won?t be on Memorial Day like before but you can still score big for viciousness. And if you won?t do that, well , we know you like to sign your name to some fat mouth bull!!!




JAMES MICHAEL AKSTIN
CPL, MARINE CORPS
RICHMOND, CA
9/8/1945 - 5/12/1967

GREGORY MICHAEL ASHFORD
PFC, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
3/22/1950 - 8/25/1971

DARREL EMERSON BARNHOUSE
SGT, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
9/20/1946 - 8/16/1968

ELDRIDGE JACK BATH
CPL, MARINE CORPS
RICHMOND, CA
3/9/1945 - 3/5/1968

MICHAEL RAY BROTZMAN
SP4, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
6/11/1946 - 1/13/1967

JOHN HENRY BUTCHER JR
SMAJ, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
6/28/1923 - 4/16/1967

BOBBY DON CARVER
BM1, NAVY
RICHMOND, CA
10/30/1935 - 12/6/1967

JAMES LEE CLARK
SGT, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
9/5/1947 - 5/6/1968

RAY DELGADO
CPL, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
6/17/1947 - 12/30/1967

DANIEL GENE DORMAN
SP4, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
5/17/1947 - 7/11/1971

ANDY GARNICA
SGT, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
4/15/1947 - 1/20/1968

MIKE MORA GODINES
RM1, NAVY
RICHMOND, CA
11/9/1937 - 2/27/1969

PAUL ALFRED GONZALES
PFC, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
4/10/1946 - 5/28/1968

WILLIAM RAYMOND HUNT
FSGT, MARINE CORPS
RICHMOND, CA
3/30/1930 - 11/27/1967

PAUL EDWARD JACKSON
PSGT, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
7/2/1940 - 5/10/1968

LARRY FRANK JAGARD
1LT, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
12/9/1947 - 7/26/1972

DAVID LLOYD KNOTT
MAJ, AIR FORCE
RICHMOND, CA
7/4/1929 - 12/26/1969

EDWARD N LEONARD
PFC, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
8/31/1942 - 1/25/1966

MICHAEL WAYNE LIZARRAGA
SGT, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
10/25/1947 - 4/10/1969

MICHAEL SIDNEY MITCHELL
PFC, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
6/20/1947 - 7/10/1967

WILLIAM ROBERT MOORE
LCPL, MARINE CORPS
RICHMOND, CA
6/6/1945 - 12/16/1965

JOE HAROLD MORRISON
SP4, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
10/1/1943 - 10/7/1970

VINCENT ALBERT RAMIREZ
BM3, NAVY
RICHMOND, CA
12/2/1946 - 4/13/1967

ROBERT ANTONIO REYES
PFC, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
12/19/1948 - 2/2/1968

DAVID ALAN ROBIN
CPL, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
12/28/1946 - 6/19/1967

WILLIAM FOY SETTLE
SP4, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
1/2/1952 - 7/16/1970

ARCHIE D SMITH
SGT, MARINE CORPS
RICHMOND, CA
11/15/1945 - 3/5/1968

JAMES DOUGLAS VAN HOOK
PFC, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
7/21/1947 - 2/2/1968

DAVID EARL WAFER
PFC, MARINE CORPS
RICHMOND, CA
5/24/1949 - 6/29/1968

THOMAS MICHAEL WALKER
CPL, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
6/3/1949 - 5/2/1968

JOHN VINSON WILLIAMS JR
MAJ, AIR FORCE
RICHMOND, CA
6/27/1938 - 10/6/1970

JOSE YBANEZ
SP5, ARMY
RICHMOND, CA
6/10/1937 - 5/17/1966

BERNARD PAUL BREITENBACH
SP4, ARMY
EL CERRITO, CA
2/8/1947 - 2/10/1968

CLYDE LAWRENCE DE MELLO
CPL, ARMY
EL CERRITO, CA
6/3/1949 - 2/9/1968

DAVID ALAN HENRY
LTJG, NAVY
EL CERRITO, CA
7/30/1941 - 9/19/1966

RONALD EUGENE JAMES
SGT, ARMY
EL CERRITO, CA
7/4/1947 - 11/30/1968

DAVID MIDDLEKAUFF
SGT, ARMY
EL CERRITO, CA
2/2/1944 - 12/24/1967

DONALD HAROLD PRATER
SP4, ARMY
EL CERRITO, CA
1/6/1950 - 7/5/1970


James Worth

Happy just to be alive

[exlrrp]

I'm going to post these again!!
I-m going to post this list eveyr day!!!!!!!
You can't delete all the men from my home town!!!!!!!
DONALD HUBERT BROWN JR
LTJG, NAVY
BERKELEY, CA
8/22/1938 - 8/12/1965



PHILIP MICHAEL CALLAN
PFC, MARINE CORPS
BERKELEY, CA
6/17/1945 - 10/4/1966



KENNETH ROBBINS CAMERON
CAPT, NAVY
BERKELEY, CA
8/9/1928 - 5/18/1967



ERSKINE LOGAN CRUMP
PVT, ARMY
BERKELEY, CA
4/3/1948 - 2/15/1969



OTIS JAMES DARDEN
SP4, ARMY
BERKELEY, CA
2/3/1948 - 2/3/1969



THOMAS PATRICK DUGGAN
PFC, MARINE CORPS
BERKELEY, CA
7/15/1950 - 1/28/1969



DONALD LEROY GASSER
PFC, ARMY
BERKELEY, CA
11/5/1941 - 8/29/1967



ALLEN HIDEO HARANO
PFC, ARMY
BERKELEY, CA
1/10/1948 - 2/6/1968



MICHAEL JAMES HARE
CPL, MARINE CORPS
BERKELEY, CA
6/1/1947 - 6/17/1967



GARY MICHIEL MABREY
SGT, ARMY
BERKELEY, CA
4/25/1947 - 8/5/1968



CHARLES RICHARD MULLAN JR
HN, NAVY
BERKELEY, CA
12/16/1946 - 6/28/1967



BRANDT STEELE NEUBACHER
SGT, ARMY
BERKELEY, CA
8/1/1947 - 7/6/1968



REX LEWIS PARCELS JR
LTJG, NAVY
BERKELEY, CA
1/16/1945 - 3/9/1970



WINFIELD WADE SISSON
MAJ, MARINE CORPS
BERKELEY, CA
9/22/1937 - 10/18/1965



ESMOND EMERSON SNELL JR
1LT, ARMY
BERKELEY, CA
7/18/1943 - 4/16/1968



JOHN BUSSEY WALLER
SP5, ARMY
BERKELEY, CA
12/9/1947 - 3/27/1969



JAMES OSCAR WEST
PFC, ARMY
BERKELEY, CA
3/14/1945 - 3/31/1968



SHOJIRO YAMASHITA
SGT, ARMY
BERKELEY, CA
3/31/1945 - 6/10/1970

[Keith_Hixson]

I responded to your last post and they eliminated me also.

I still love ya James. I think you are okay. You may not be a weird conservative like me but I still love ya.

Keith

P.S. A confession that's hard for a slightly conservative preacher.
My first presidential vote.
I voted for LBJ.

[David]

This political debate is assinine. I mean really, what has been gained here? Nothing. James I do not know who flipped your switch but to insinuate a post was deleted to eliminate a KIA list is way overboard. I did not delete your post and in fact you know who did because he PMed you about it and your direct attack on other members which will never be tolerated. If you do not want to be here that is fine. No one is forcing you to be here. I don't care what you post but when you attack other people specifically it will be removed every time no matter what you try to bury it in.

[Andy]

I knew I was missing something. A deleted message answers a lot of questions. Can someone give me an objective thumb nail sketch of what happened? For a list of dead troops to have been deleted, if must have been personal and nasty or it was uncalled for. I'll list the dead from my town in a later post, can't recall the dates off the top of my head but would hate to see them deleted. They all ready lost enough.
Other than vulgarity, Klue type stuff, why would we be censored?
Stay healthy,
Andy

[David]

Andy I do not have a copy of the post but if I remember correctly there were accusations made that liberals were singled out and sent to their death with a smile in Vietnam for no other reason then they were liberals. Another member was implicated in this supposed plot to kill liberals under the guise of war. This is one of the most outragouse statements I have ever heard in my life and served no purpose other then to set people against each other in the worst way.

[Arrow]

Thanks for the info David. I missed all of this. I know the first rule here is not to get too ugly or personal.

I do think that in the future any post with a list of KIA's that needs to be edited should leave the KIA/POW list standing. Always. And with no exceptions. Their names could not be recorded to many times anywhere! Lest we forget. (I know we won't forget I am talkin' about the nation)

As for censorship/editing so on and so forth every site on the internet has some regulation and it really is up to the owners of the site how they are regulated. One click and we can go. No one is being forced to stay...sis

[Arrow]

Lest We Forget

[Cwilkens]

To one and all

I am not concerned about party affiliation or titles as I am the person.

In my opinion someone who is more concerned about the 'state of mankind' and the 'human condition' rather than 'the body politics' should be heard.

Its not about party affiliation or political views. Its about how we live our lives.

In the "nam" we took care of one another and watched out for one another and we protected each others back. Shouldn't we live our lives the same way?

I did not intend to open wounds or debate. I just wanted to inroduce myself and let everyone know where I am coming from and where I hope to be someday.

If I offended anyone I apologize.

It may take me some time to get the 'lay of the land' and the 'feel of the times.' Please bear with me. I've been told I am a slow learner.

'Dont mean nothing!'
cwilkens/716 MP BN/ Saigon/ 1967-68

[DMZ-LT]

We looked out for each other during combat duty in Bitnam- I see no reason to stop just because we are back in the world. Respect and joy in each others lives.Welcome home to ALL THE BROTHERS............... and for goodness sakes , keep movin !!