Pat Tillman was killed by Friendly Fire

[reeb]

This was on AOL News this morning:


Ex-NFL Player Died Serving in Afghanistan

LOS ANGELES (May 29) - Pat Tillman was killed by friendly fire as he led his team of Army Rangers up a hill during a firefight in Afghanistan last month, newspapers in California and Arizona reported Saturday.





The U.S. Army Special Operations Command was to release information later Saturday on the death of Tillman, who walked away from a $3.6 million contract with the Arizona Cardinals to join the Army after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The Arizona Republic and The Argus of Fremont (Calif.) both reported the Army would announce Tillman, 27, was killed by fire from his fellow soldiers.

''It does seem pretty clear that he was killed by friendly fire,'' Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., a member of the House Armed Services Committee, told the Republic. Franks said his panel was alerted to the information by the Army's Legislative Liaison Office.

The Argus cited a family friend and also government sources it did not name as confirming the friendly fire report. Tillman's family declined to comment.


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An Afghan military official told The Associated Press on Saturday that Tillman died because of a ''misunderstanding'' when two mixed groups of American and Afghan soldiers began firing wildly in the confusion following an explosion.

The Afghan official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, also contradicted U.S. reports that the American soldiers had come under enemy fire.

The Army has said Tillman was leading his comrades against enemy shooters who had pinned down other soldiers when he was killed on April 22.

Tillman, a member of the elite Ranger unit since 2002, was posthumously promoted from specialist to corporal. He also was awarded a Purple Heart and Silver Star.

''While many of us will be blessed to live a longer life, few of us will ever live a better one,'' said Sen. John McCain. R-Ariz., who spent 5 1/2 years as a prisoner of war in Vietnam. ''He was a most honorable man.''

When the Army announced he was being awarded the Silver Star, it said Tillman was killed after his platoon was split into two sections for what officials called a ground assault convoy. Tillman was in charge of the lead group.

His group was safely out of the area when the trailing group came under mortar and small arms fire, according to the Army, and he ordered them to return.

''Through the firing, Tillman's voice was heard issuing fire commands to take the fight to the enemy on the dominating high ground,'' the award announcement said. ''Only after his team engaged the well-armed enemy did it appear their fires diminished.


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''As a result of his leadership and his team's efforts, the platoon trail section was able to maneuver through the ambush to positions of safety without a single casualty,'' the announcement said.

The Afghan official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said the two groups of soldiers had drifted some distance apart during the operation in the remote Spera district of Khost province, close to the Pakistani border.

''Suddenly the sound of a mine explosion was heard somewhere between the two groups and the Americans in one group started firing,'' the official said, citing an account given to him by an Afghan fighter who was part of that group, not Tillman's.

''Nobody knew what it was - a mine, a remote-controlled bomb - or what was going on, or if enemy forces were firing. The situation was very confusing,'' the official said.

''As the result of this firing, that American was killed and three Afghan soldiers were injured. It was a misunderstanding and afterwards they realized that it was a mine that had exploded and there were no enemy forces.''

U.S. military officials in Kabul had no immediate comment.


05-29-04 0815EDT

[SparrowHawk62]

This is a very sad thing to deal with. Of course the media will not put it's spin on this story. I wouldn't expect as much coverage of this as the story of him that was first aired.

[catman]

Terrible, but still a part of war.

Trav

[Keith_Hixson]

Stonewall Jackson was killed by friendly fire. In confusion of war it happens sadly.

Keith

[reeb]

Has there ever been an E-4 in charge, and especiaaly in Combat Conditions, unless the Sgt, Lt or whoever was killed.

Spec. to Corp, isnt that the same thing as E-4?

Just wondering why he would be in charge, and especially with the Rangers.

enough..........

Still a sad sad deal, as with any death because of war.

[catman]

Reeb...yes Specialist and Corporal are both E-4's. Some units make them Corporals some don't, commanders decision. My guess is he was leading a fire team or squad.

Trav

[Arrow]

I'll wait for some other source to verify this other than an Afghan Official who doesn' want to give his name.

Pat Tillman was by all accounts in his personal, professional, and military life a young man of great integrity.

Rest in peace soldier you did your time in Hell...

Arrow>>>>>>>

[pighmpr]

A sad thing, especialy for someone who was a true role model both ON the field and IN the field.
Will the silver star award be rescinded if he wasn't doing what the citation said he was doing?
Should it be? Can it be?
Thoughts?

[DMZ-LT]

Sometimes we know to much. They took out an unknown , from the tomb. Family should know but all this detail was never available before. It's a new era. Been watching D- Day stuff on TV , they got , and accepted , a telegram. One guy said we should tell of the horror so we don't forget. Better be careful with that.

[exlrrp]

[quote]Originally posted by reeb Has there ever been an E-4 in charge, and especiaaly in Combat Conditions, unless the Sgt, Lt or whoever was killed.

Just wondering why he would be in charge, and especially with the Rangers.

QUOTE]

oh absolutely, sp/4 could be a squad leader or a lrrp team leader. So could a corporal but we didn't have them when I was peeling spuds in defense of my country. Yr right--if there'd been a higher rank there, he would have been in charge.
I went on 3 patrols as a lrrp team leader, still a sp/4, about 20 as an asst TL. I don't see why it would have been any more dangerous for a sgt or LT to do this, you can only get killed just so dead.

James