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Old 04-03-2009, 04:54 AM
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Obama gets to have a all expense paid vacation to the G20 and just for fun the Queen gets a hug from a black lady.

Put 20 people in a room that in their job have their own way all the time, Never get told no and always get looked up to. Now throw out a subject, any subject. Any bets on if anything gets done at this G20 summit. Not hardly, Big waste of Our Taxpayers money and a pretty nice vacation for the Obamas, and the 500 people they took along.

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Here's the math: Barack + Michelle + 498 TelePrompter operators = 500. Gosh, I wonder what the airfreight bill is for us taxpayers?
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http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/trvl/pres/5218.htm

February 16, 2001
Mexico
San Cristobal
Meeting with President Fox.


April 20-22, 2001
Canada
Quebec
Attended the Summit of the Americas.


June 12-13, 2001
Spain
Madrid
Met with King Juan Carlos I and President Aznar.


June 13-14, 2001
Belgium
Brussels
Attended NATO Summit Meeting.


June 14-15, 2001
Sweden
Goteborg
Attended U.S.-European Union Summit Meeting; met with King Carl XVI Gustav.


June 15-16, 2001
Poland
Warsaw
State visit.


June 16, 2001
Slovenia
Kranj
Met with Prime Minister Drnovsek and Russian President Putin.


July 18-20, 2001
United Kingdom
London, Chequers, Halton, Brize Norton
Met with Prime Minister Blain and Queen Elizabeth II.


July 20-24, 2001
Italy
Genoa, Castel Gandolfo, Rome
Attended the G-8 Economic Summit. Met with Pope John Paul II at Castel Gandolfo and with Prime Minister Berlusconi and President Ciampi in Rome.


July 24, 2001
Yugoslavia (Kosovo)
Camp Bondsteel
Addressed U.S. military personnel.


October 18-21, 2001
China, People's Republic of
Shanghai
Attended the APEC Summit Meeting.




2002

February 16-19, 2002
Japan
Tokyo
Met with Prime Minister Koizumi and Emperor Akihito. Addressed the Diet.

February 19-21, 2002
Korea, Republic of
Seoul, Dorasan, Osan
Met with President Kim Dae-Jung, visited the Demilitarized Zone, addressed U.S. military personnel.

February 21-22, 2002
China, People's Republic of
Beijing
Met with President Jiang and Premier Zhu.

March 21-22, 2002
Mexico
Monterrey
Attended the International Conference on Financing for Development and met with President Fox.

March 23-24, 2002
Peru
Lima
Met with the Presidents of Peru, Colombia, and Bolivia, and with the Vice President of Ecuador.

March 24, 2002
El Salvador
San Salvador
Attended a summit meeting with Central American heads of state.

May 22-23, 2002
Germany
Berlin
Met with Chancellor Schroeder and addressed the Bundestag.

May 23-26, 2002
Russia
Moscow, St. Petersburg
Summit meeting with President Putin. Signed strategic arms reduction treaty.

May 26-27, 2002
France
Paris, St. Mere- Eglise, Colleville
Met with President Chirac and delivered a Memorial Day address in Normandy.

May 27-28, 2002
Italy
Rome
Met with President Ciampi and Prime Minister Berlusconi. Attended NATO Summit Meeting and inaugurated the NATO-Russia Council.

May 28, 2002
Vatican City

Audience with Pope John Paul II.

June 25-27, 2002
Canada
Kananaskis (Alberta)
Attended the G-8 Economic Summit

October 26-27, 2002
Mexico
Los Cabos
Attended APEC Summit Meeting.

November 19-22, 2002
Czech Republic
Prague
Attended NATO and EAPC Summit Meetings.

November 22, 2002
Russia
St. Petersburg
Met with President Putin.

November 22-23, 2002
Lithuania
Vilnius
Met with the Presidents of the Baltic States.

November 23, 2002
Romania
Bucharest
Met with President Iliescu.



2003

Date:
Country:
Locale:
Remarks:

March 16, 2003
Portugal
Terceira, (Azores)
Discussed the Iraq crisis with British Prime Minister Blair, Spanish President Aznar, and Portuguese Prime Minister Durao.

April 7-8, 2003
United Kingdom
Belfast, Hillsborough (Northern Ireland)
Met with Prime Minister Blair to discuss the reconstruction of Iraq. Also met with Irish Prime Minister Ahern and Northern Irish political leaders.

May 30-31, 2003
Poland
Krakow, Auschwitz-Birkenau
Met with President Kwasniewski and Prime Minister Miller; visited former Nazi concentration camps.

May 31-June 1, 2003
Russia
St. Petersburg
Met with President Putin and attended ceremonies commemorating the city's 300th anniversary.

June 1-2, 2003
France
Evian-les-Bains
Attended the G-8 Economic Summit and met with Chinese President Hu Jintao.

June 2-3, 2003
Egypt
Sharm el-Sheikh
Attended "Red Sea Summit" with the leaders of Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia, and with Palestinian Prime Minister Abbas.

June 4, 2003
Jordan
Aqaba
Attended meetings with Israeli Prime Minister Sharon and Palestinian Prime Minister Abbas. Met with King Abdullah II.

June 4-5, 2003
Doha
Qatar
Met with Emir Hamad Thani, visited U.S. Central Command headquarters and addressed U.S. military personnel. Overflew Baghdad en route to Qatar.

July 8, 2003
Senegal
Dakar, Goree Island
Met with President Wade.

July 8-10, 11, 2003
South Africa
Pretoria
Met with President Mbeki.

July 10, 2003
Botswana
Gabarone
Met with President Mogae. Toured Mokoldi Nature Reserve.

July 11, 2003
Uganda
Kampala
Met with President Musaveni.

July 11-12, 2003
Nigeria
Abuja
Met with President Obasanjo.

October 17-18, 2003
Japan
Tokyo
Met with Prime Minister Koizumi

October 18-19, 2003
Philippines
Manila
Addressed a joint session of the Philippine Congress and met with President Arroyo-Macapagal.

October 18-21, 2003
Thailand
Bangkok
Attended the APEC Summit Meeting.

October 21-22, 2003
Singapore
Singapore
Met with Prime Minister Goh Chok Tong.

October 22, 2003
Indonesia
Denpasar (Bali)
Met with President Sukarnoputri and Muslim religious leaders.

October 22, 2003
Australia
Canberra
Met with Prime Minister Howard and addressed Parliament.

November 18-21, 2003
United Kingdom
London, Sedgefield
State Visit.

November 27, 2003
Iraq
Baghdad
Met with members of the Coalition Provisional Authority and the Iraqi Governing Council and addressed U.S. military personnel.


2004

Date:
Country:
Locale:
Remarks:

January 12-13, 2004
Mexico
Monterrey
Attended the Special Summit of the Americas.

June 4-5, 2004
Italy
Rome
Met with President Ciampi and Prime Minister Berlusconi.

June 4, 2004
Vatican City

Met with Pope John Paul II.

June 5-6, 2004
France
Paris, Colleville, Caen, Arromanches
Met with President Chirac and commemorated the 60th anniversary of D-Day.

June 25-26, 2004
Ireland
Shannon, Dromoland Castle
Attended U.S.-EU Summit meeting and met with Prime Minister Ahern.

June 26-29, 2004
Turkey
Ankara, Istanbul
Met with President Sezer and Prime Minister Erdogan and attended NATO Summit meeting in Istanbul.

November 19-22, 2004
Chile
Santiago
Attended APEC Summit Meeting.

November 22, 2004
Colombia
Cartagena
Met with President Uribe.

November 30-December 1, 2004
Canada
Ottawa, Gatineau, Halifax
Met with Prime Minister Martin.



2005

Date:
Country:
Locale:
Remarks:

February 20-23, 2005
Belgium
Brussels
Attended NATO and EU Summit Meetings.

February 23, 2005
Germany
Mainz, Wiesbaden
Met with Chancellor Schroeder and visited U.S. military personnel.

February 23-24, 2005
Slovakia
Bratislava
Met with President Dzurinda and Russian President Putin.

April 6-8, 2005
Vatican City

Attended the funeral of Pope John Paul II.

April 6-8, 2005
Italy
Rome
Met with President Ciampi and Prime Minister Berlusconi.

May 6-7, 2005
Latvia
Riga
Met with the presidents of the Baltic States.

May 7-8, 2005
Netherlands
Maastricht, Valkenburg, Margraten
Met with Prime Minister Balkenende and gave an address at a U.S. military cemetery.

May 8-9, 2005
Russia
Moscow
Met with President Putin and attended ceremonies commemorating VE Day.

May 9-10, 2005
Georgia
Tbilisi
Met with President Saakashvili.

July 5-6, 2005
Denmark
Kastrup, Fredensborg, Copenhagen
Met with Queen Margrethe II and Prime Minister Rasmussen

July 6-8, 2005
United Kingdom
Gleneagles (Scotland)
Attended the G-8 Economic Summit.

November 3-5, 2005
Argentina
Mar del Plata
Attended the Summit of the Americas.

November 5-6, 2005
Brazil
Brasilia
Met with President Lula da Silva.

November 6-7, 2005
Panama
Panama City
Met with President Martin Torrijos.






November 15-16, 2005
Japan
Kyoto
Met with Prime Minister Koizumi.

November 16-20, 2005
Korea
Pusan, Gyeongju, Osan
Attended APEC Summit meeting and met with Russian President Putin.

November 20-21, 2005
China, People's Republic of
Beijing
Met with President Hu and Prime Minister Wen.

November 21, 2005
Mongolia
Ulaanbaatar
Met with President Enkhbayar and Prime Minister Elbegdorj.



2006

Date:
Country:
Locale:
Remarks:

February 28, 2006
Ireland
Shannon
Met with U.S. Marines who were en route to Iraq.

March 1, 2006
Afghanistan
Bagram, Kabul
Met with President Karzai, dedicated new U.S. Embassy, and addressed U.S. military personnel.

March 1-3, 2006
India
New Delhi, Hyderabad
Met with Prime Minister Singh. Signed nuclear cooperation agreement.

March 3-4, 2006
Pakistan
Islamabad
Met with President Musharraf.

March 30-31, 2006
Mexico
Cancun, Chichen-Itza
Met with President Fox and Canadian Prime Minister Harper.

June 13, 2006
Iraq
Baghdad
Met with Prime Minister Maliki and addressed U.S. military personnel.

June 20-21, 2006
Austria
Vienna
Attended the U.S.-EU Summit.

June 21-22, 2006
Hungary
Budapest
Met with President Solyom, Prime Minister Gyurcsany and commemorated the 50th anniversary of the Hungarian Uprising.

July 12-14, 2006
Germany
Stralsund, Trinwillershagen
Met with Chancellor Merkel.

July 14-17, 2006
Russia
St. Petersburg
Attended the G-8 Economic Summit. Met with President Hu of China, July 16; and President Lula of Brazil and Prime Minister Singh of India, July 17.

November 15, 2006
Russia
Moscow
Met with President Putin

November 16-17
Singapore
Singapore
Met with Acting President Pillay and Prime Minister Lee. Addressed National Singapore University.

November 17-20, 2006
Vietnam
Hamoi, Ho Chi Minh City
Attended APEC Leaders' Meeting.

November 20, 2006
Indonesia
Jakarta, Bogor
Met with President Yudhoyono.

November 27-28, 2006
Estonia
Tallinn
Met with President Ilves.

November 28-29, 2006
Latvia
Riga
Attended NATO Summit Meeting.

November 29-30, 2006
Jordan
Amman
Met with King Abdullah II and Iraqi Prime Minister al-Maliki.



2007

Date:
Country:
Locale:
Remarks:

March 8-9, 2007
Brazil
Sao Paulo
Met with President Lula da Silva.

March 9-11, 2007
Uruguay
Montevideo
Met with President Tabare Vazquez.

March 11, 2007
Colombia
Bogota
Met with President Uribe.

March 11-12, 2007
Guatemala
Guatemala City, Santa Cruz Balanya, Iximche
Met with President Berger.

March 12-14, 2007
Mexico
Merida, Uxmal
Met with President Calderon. Visited Mayan ruins.

June 4-5, 2007
Czech Republic
Prague
Met with President Klaus and Prime Minister Topolanek. Addressed Conference on Democracy and Security.

June 5-8, 2007
Heiligen-damm
Germany
Attended the G-8 Summit Meeting. Also met with Chinese President Hu Jintao.

June 8, 2007
Gdansk, Jurata Hel.
Poland
Met with Presidetn Kaczynski.

June 8-10, 2007
Italy
Rome
Met with Prime Minister Prodi and President Napolitano.

June 9, 2007
Vatican City

Audience with Pope Benedict XVI.

June 10, 2007
Albania
Tirana
Met with President Moisu and Prime Minister Berisha.

June 10-11, 2007
Bulgaria
Sofia
Met with President Parvanov and Prime Minister Stanishev.

August 20-21, 2007
Canada (Quebec)
Montebello
Attended North American Leaders' Summit with Mexican President Calderon and Canadian Prime Minister Harper.

September 3, 2007
Iraq
Al-Assad Air Force Base
Met with Gen. Petraeus, Secretary of State Rice, Secretary of Defense Gates, senior U.S. officials, and Iraqi political leaders.

September 3-8, 2007
Australia
Sydney
Attended APEC Leaders' Meeting.



2008

Date:
Country:
Locale:
Remarks:

January 9-11, 2008
Israel
Tel Aviv, Jerusalem
Met with Prime Minister Olmert and President Peres. Visited Yad Vashem.

January 10, 2008
Palestinian Authority
Ramallah, Bethlehem
Met with President Abbas and visited the Church of the Nativity.

January 11-12, 2008
Kuwait
Kuwait City, Camp Arifjan
Attended Roundtable on Democracy and Development. Met with Gen. Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker at Camp Arifjan and addressed U.S. military personnel.

January 12-13, 2008
Bahrain
Manama
Met with King Hamad bin Isa al -Khalifa. Addressed U.S. military personnel.

January 13-14, 2008
United Arab Emirates
Abu Dhabi, Dubai
Met with President Khalifa bin Zayid al Nuhayyin and Crown Prince Sheikh Mohammed.

January 14-16, 2008
Saudi Arabia
Riyadh, Al-Janadriyah
Met with King Abdullah.

January 16, 2008
Egypt
Sharm el-Sheikh
Met with President Mubarak

February 16, 2008
Benin
Porto Novo
Met with President Boni.

February 16-19, 2008
Dar es Salaam, Arusha
Tanzania
Met with President Kikwete, signed Millenimu Challenge agreement

February 19, 2008
Rwanda
Kigali
Met with President Kagame and dedicated new Embassy.

February 19-21, 2008
Ghana
Accra
Met with President Kufuor.

February 21, 2008
Monrovia
Liberia
Met with President Johnson Sirleaf.

April 1, 2008
Ukraine
Kyiv


April 2-4, 2008
Romania
Bucharest
Attended NATO Summit Meeting.

April 4, 2008
Croatia
Zagreb
Met with President Mesic

April 5-6, 2008
Russia
Sochi
Met with President Putin and President-elect Medvedev.

May 14-16, 2008
Israel
Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, Masada
Met with President Peres and Prime Minister Olmert. Addressed the Knesset. Commemorated Israel's 60th anniversary.

May 16-17, 2008
Saudi Arabia
Riyadh, al-Janadriyah
Met with King Abdullah.



May 17-18, 2008


Egypt


Sharm el-Sheikh


Met with President Mubarak, King Abdullah II of Jordan, Palestinian Authority President Abbas and Prime Minister Fayyad, Afghan President Karzai and Pakistani Prime Minister Gilan. Addressed the World Economic Forum.

June 9-10, 2008
Slovenia
Ljubljana
Met with President Turk and Prime Minister Jansa. Attended the EU-US Summit Meeting.

June 10-11, 2008
Germany
Meseberg
Met with Chancellor Merkel.

June 11-13, 2008
Italy
Rome
Met with President Napolitano and Prime Minister Berlusconi.

June 13, 2008
Vatican City

Met with Pope Benedict XVI.

June 13-15, 2008
France
Paris
Met with President Sarkozy. Addressed the OECD. Attended wreath-laying ceremonies at Suresnes and Mont Valerien.

June 15-16, 2008
United Kingdom
London, Belfast
Met with Queen Elizabeth II at Windsor Castle. Met with Prime Minister Blair and Quartet Representative Blair. In Belfast, met with First Minister Robertson and Deputy First Minister McGuinness.

July 6-9, 2008
Japan
Toyako
Attended the G-8 Economic Summit. Also met with Tanzanian President Kikwete, Indian Prime Minister Singh, Chinese President Hu, and South Korean President Lee.


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Looks like Georgie took quite a few all expenses paid vacations while he was prez.
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The difference
One guy had our economy and the stock market at 14000, everyone that wanted a job had one and we were getting tax breaks.
The other guy has our economy in the tank, Stock market at 8000 (maybe) Tax increases and just put your grand kids in debt until they die.

One guy knew how to run a business and was the head of a pretty good size state before he became president
The other guy never ran a thing, and became president only because he is black.

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http://alaric3rh.home.sprynet.com/science/bceo.html

The Failed Corporate Record of George W. Bush

Several researchers have investigated the business history of the Bush family. The facts that they have uncovered are not very pretty. The business record of George W. Bush holds some revealing insights to how his presidency has operated, and helps to explain why the country has fallen so deeply in debt and has so many other problems.
As explained by Kevin Phillips in his book, American Dynasty: Aristocracy, Fortune, and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush, George W. Bush's businesses fail but he makes millions. Among Mr. Bush's business ventures:

Arbusto, an oil exploration company, lost money, but it got considerable investments (nearly $5 million) because even losing oil investments were useful as tax shelters.
Spectrum 7 Energy Corp. bought out Arbusto in 1984 and hired Mr. Bush to run the company's oil interests in Midland, Texas. The oil business collapsed as oil prices plummeted by 1986, and Spectrum 7 Energy was near failure.

Harken Energy acquired Mr. Bush's Spectrum 7 Energy shares, and he got Harken shares, a directorship, and a consulting arrangement in return. Harken, under Bush, brought in Saudi real estate tycoon Sheikh Abdullah Bakhsh as a board member and a major investor. Over the next few years, Harken would turn out to have links to: Saudi money, CIA-connected Filipinos, the Harvard Endowment, the emir of Bahrain, and the shadowy Bank of Credit and Commerce International.

A 1991 internal SEC document suggested George W. Bush violated federal securities law at least 4 times in the late 1980s and early 1990s in selling Harken stock while serving as a director of Harken. This is essentially the same kind of activity that Martha Stewart is going to prison over. Except at the time of the investigation, Mr. Bush's father was president and the case was quietly dropped.

In his book, Worse Than Watergate: The Secret Presidency of George W. Bush, John W. Dean explains that his family name and his father's prominence were significant factors in George W. Bush's business "success", or, were significant factors in repeated saves from serious business and financial failures. Both Arbusto/Bush Exploration and Spectrum 7 failed with Bush as chairman and CEO. At Harken, Mr. Bush was relieved of day-to-day management responsibilities but still served on the board of directors. Dean also notes:
George W. Bush claims his formative years, which he extends to age 40, are out of bounds. Yet those are the years when one's character and values are formed. Bush had occasionally overindulged with alcohol, and he was a bit of an irresponsible youth.
Dean believes Mr. Bush took advantage of his insider information when he sold his Harken stock in 1990, but he escaped SEC penalties because his father was president and many of the investigating officials had Bush family ties and other conflicts of interest. Many of the facts about the Harken deal remain buried and Bush has stonewalled all efforts to find out more.

Our first oil company/MBA president naturally views the world through the eyes of a CEO, according to Eric Alterman and Mark Green. In their book, The Book on Bush: How George W. (Mis)leads America, they describe how this results in a probusiness/anticonsumer record, including crony capitalism with the awarding of post-Iraq war contracts (Halliburton, Bechtel, and MCI/Worldcom getting most of the contracts). Alterman and Green note that the first 2 years of the Bush administration coincided with the biggest corporate scandals and bankruptcies since Teapot Dome in the 1920s. Mr. Bush had to manage a falling economy riddled with corporate malfeasance. Companies on the corporate rap sheet:

MCI/Worldcom -- the single largest corporate securities fraud in U.S. history.
Enron -- the largest contributor to Bush's political career. The Bush administration is staffed with numerous former Enron employees and consultants.

Harken Energy -- Bush's behavior on Harken's board of directors was similar to that of the companies caught in the corporate scandals. Mr. Bush received several memos from Harken officials about the impending financial crisis in the company, sold his stock, then several days later the Harken financial problems wewre made public. He failed to file notice of these sales to the SEC for 8 months. The SEC simply stopped their 1990-91 investigation.
Halliburton -- Dick Cheney served as CEO and chairman from 1995-2000. He sold Halliburton stock before bad financial news regarding his company was made public. Halliburton committed fraud on its investors by overstating its earnings.
Enron and Worldcom were followed by scandals and failures at Adelphia, Tyco, and others.
As he did to his unsuccessful businesses, George W. Bush is doing to the country -- leading it down a path of failure:

huge federal deficits
mismanagement
deception
cronyism.
The Bush family has had financial and oil business ties with Middle Eastern countries for decades. As explained by Kevin Phillips in his 2004 book, American Dynasty: Aristocracy, Fortune, and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush:

"no other political family in the United States has had anything remotely resembling the Bushes' four-decade relationship with the Saudi royal family and the oil sheikhs of the Persion Gulf" (page 315).

The investment firm, The Carlyle Group, is run by the Bush crowd (George H.W. Bush, James Baker III, and Frank Carlucci have been/are its top managers and advisers). The Carlyle Group served as an interface between these Bush characters and the Saudi bin Laden family. "Some commentators felt that some connections between the bin Ladens and their black-sheep relative (Osama bin Laden) persisted" (page 315). This connection directly links George W. Bush to Al Quaeda and leads to the logical question: In spite of the president's rhetoric, are Mr. Bush and Osama actually working together? Could that be why Osama bin Laden hasn't been caught?

"Greg Palast (asked) 'What made this new president [George W. Bush] take particular care to protect the Saudis (after the September 11 terrorist attack), even to the point of stymieing his own intelligence agencies?' The answers, he said, kept coming back 'Carlyle' and 'Arbusto,' the two prominent interfaces between the finances of the Bush family and those of the bin Laden family" (page 316).

The Bush administration demanded major deletions (especially in the 28-page section dealing with the role played by the Saudis and other foreign governments) in the 2003 joint report of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees on the origins of the 9/11 attack and how it might have been prevented (page 316).

Kevin Phillips comes to a frightening conclusion about the Bushes and America in his book on page 330: Mr. Bush's main advisor, Karl Rove, is an avid reader of Machiavelli. Machiavelli wrote his books, The Prince and The Discourses, during the early sixteenth century at a time when his own Florentine republic was undergoing political turmoil. "French, German, and Spanish imperial power was overrunning Europe, including Italy, through a scale of wealth and military capacity that doomed many of the old city-states. Florence (Machiavelli's home), one such, surrendered its republican status in the 1530s and took the Medici as hereditary rulers. ... the advice Machiavelli gives in The Prince was dedicated to the Medicis and designed to work in the new princely, aristocratic, and neo-imperial milieu of 16th-century Italy."

"The possibility that the United States could edge toward its own Machiavellian moment in an early-21st-century milieu of terrorism, neo-imperialism, and dynastization is not far-fetched."

"Chapter 4, in its discussion of Bush domestic policy and 'compassionate conservative' rhetoric, has already referred to Machiavelli's advice that the Prince should lie but must 'be able to disguise this character well, and to be a great feigner and dissembler.' Moreover, 'to see and hear him, he [the Prince] should seem to be all mercy, faith, integrity, humanity and religion. And nothing is more necessary than to seem to have this last quality. ... Everybody sees what you appear to be, few feel what you are.'"
"Other advice dwells on the merits of fraud, hypocrisy, faithlessness, and related practices, and 20th century academicians have noted Machiavelli's appeal to leaders like Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini. Doubtless there are also hundreds of copies of The Prince at the CIA. Which makes it revealing, and arguably ill advised, that the two political advisers to the two Bush presidents should claim it as a bible of sorts."

"Even in religion, Machiavelli's advice to emphasize it is relevant to the early-21st-century United States. His career in Florence overlapped that of Friar Girolamo Savonarola, the Religious despot who ruled the gasping republic from 1494 to 1498 with a politics of fighting sin and immorality. Doubtless the youthful Machiavelli absorbed how close Savonarola came to achieving a theocracy even in republican Florence. Not a few Americans see a little bit of Savonarola in George W. Bush."

"The advent of a Machiavelli-inclined dynasty (the Bush dynasty) in what may be a Machiavellian Moment for the American Republic is not a happy coincidence, but one that demands attention."
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GOOD POINT about Bush Trips. Hell,...actually an EXCELLENT POINT!!!

Maybe had President Bush instead spent more time at home addressing The Political Connivers & Dishonest types repeatedly reassuring all A-OK with America's Banking/Financial System posing as People's Representatives like Pelosi, Franks, Dodd & Schumer just to mention a few,...We Americans wouldn't be in The Fix now in?

If Old GW had also wisely put those SO OBVIOUSLY MOSTLY Representing Selves, Clique & Lobbyists rather than ANY OTHERS or COUNTRY on polygraphs before believing a word coming out of such career-deceivers & liars' mouths,...such most certainly couldn't have hurt either.

But then & either way,.............................................. .........................:
"That's just water" or Mega-tons of MY/YOUR/OUR Monies "Under-the-bridge".
"His Barackness" & Queen Pelosi have so decreed,...and that's that.


Just out of curiosity,...does Obama & all other duplicitous political connivers & liars alluded to have large personal holdings in Banks, Insurers, Diamond Mines or in Gold & Silver Bullion??? If so for any or all (?),... The Lunacy with Boodle$ of Monie$ would at least make some sense to me.

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