No Respect for Military

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They are the same now as in the 60s and 70s:

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search using "Hillary Clinton"....Claim: New York Senator Hillary Clinton refused to meet with a delegation of Gold Star mothers.

Status: False.

Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2001]


Bet this never hits the TV news!
Gold Star Mothers is an organization made up of women whose sons were killed in military combat during service in the United States Armed Forces. Recently a delegation of New York State Gold Star Mothers made a trip to Washington, DC to discuss various concerns with their elected representatives. According to NewsMax.com there was only one politician in DC who refused to meet with these ladies. Can you guess which politician that might be?

Was it New York Senator Charles Schumer? Nope, he met with them. Try again. Do you know anyone serving in the Senate who has never showed anything but contempt for our military? Do you happen to know the name of any politician in Washington whose husband once wrote of his loathing of the military?

Now you're getting warm! None other than the Queen herself - the Hildebeast, Hillary Clinton. She refused repeated requests to meet with the Gold Star Mothers.

Now - please don't tell me you're surprised. This woman wants to be president of the United States - and there is a huge percentage of the voters who are anxious to help her achieve that.



Origins: This
item began as a 26 May 2001 "Hillary Snubs Gold Star Mothers" article on NewsMax.com, the site that never lets facts get in the way of a good anti-Clinton screed. ACcording to NewsMax:


New York chapter president Shirley Jones and member Mary Wheeler, both of upstate New York . . . had been in Washington visiting Senate offices. The only office that refused to meet with the Gold Star Mothers was none other than Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y. She and her staff simply refused to meet with them.
The e-mail quoted above took the invective to an ever higher level, maintaining that Hillary Clinton was not just the only senator who wouldn't give the Gold Star mothers the time of day, but the "only politician in DC who refused to meet with these ladies." (Even just calling upon all the senators in Washington would have required this delegation of two women to visit one hundred separate offices; most likely they were only calling upon congressmen and senators representing the state of New York.)
The incident referred to in the NewsMax.com article took place on 27 February 2001, when the two women (New York chapter president Shirley Jones and member Mary Wheeler) dropped by Ms. Clinton's congressional office to discuss a proposed bill to provide annuities to the parents of servicemen killed in action. However, they stopped by without an appointment, on a day when the senator was not in her office, as confirmed by the response inquiries about this piece drew from the American Gold Star Mothers organization:


The American Gold Star Mothers, Inc., deeply regret the misunderstanding about Senator Hillary Clinton. The two mothers who visited Washington did not have an appointment with the Senator and she was not in her office on that day.

We would appreciate it if the e-mails and negative comments about Senator Clinton would cease.

Georgianna Carter-Krell
National President
Miffed that no one else in the senator's office offered to help them or hear them out, and that their follow-up letter to Senator Clinton drew no response, the two Gold Star mothers made the comments that formed the basis of the NewsMax.com article. As the Albany Times Union later reported, though, it was essentially the attitude of a receptionist in Ms. Clinton's congressional office which drew their ire:
"It got blown out of proportion, in a way," Gold Star Mother Shirley Jones said of a flurry of nationwide carping about New York's junior senator after Jones made a few offhand remarks about her organization's reception at U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton's Capitol Hill office in February. Jones . . . said she and another mother were disappointed when they stopped by Clinton's office to lobby for legislation to provide annuities for Gold Star parents and weren't even given a few moments with a staff member. She said Clinton's receptionist seemed oblivious to Gold Star Mothers, the Vietnam War and the losses American families suffered because of it.

Clinton's office is apologetic about the slight, saying the senator's temporary basement office was understaffed during her first months in office and the staff has since reached out to communicate with Jones about the legislation.
An expanded version of the "Hilary snubs Gold Star mothers" screed appeared on the Internet months after the original. In it, another anti-Clinton diatribe that debuted in cyberspace in November 2000 was teamed with the Gold Star incident of May 2001. The expanded e-mail concluded with:

Think about this one !!! This one is REALLY amazing!

Don't forget, our girl, Hillary Rodham Clinton, as a New York Senator, now comes under this fancy Congressional Retirement and Staffing Plan. It's common knowledge that, in order for her to establish NYS residency, they purchased a million+ dollar house in upscale Chappaqua , NY.

Makes sense.

Now, they are entitled to Secret Service protection for life. Still makes sense. Here is where it becomes interesting.

The mortgage payments hover at about $10,000 per month. BUT, an extra residency had to be built within the acreage in order to house the Secret Service agents. The Clinton's now charge the Secret Service $10,000 monthly rent for the use of said Secret Service residence and that rent is just about equal to their mortgage payment, meaning that we, the tax payers, are paying the Clinton's mortgage, their transportation, their safety and security, their 12 man staff, and it's all perfectly legal.

How many people can YOU send this to?
As explained on our Landlord of Misrule page, this is hogwash. While it is a standard arrangement that the Secret Service provide payment to homeowners for space used by the agency in such situations, the amount provided is based on a government formula, not set by the homeowner. (In the Clintons' case, this amount is $1,100.) Unlike other previous First Families, the Clintons have not accepted any money from the Secret Service, making this rumor not only baseless but particularly meanspirited too in that they are being chided for doing something that they're not yet others are.

Last updated: 23 April 2003

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Sources:
Limbacher, Carl. "Hillary Snubs Gold Star Mothers."
NewsMax.com. 26 May 2001.

[Albany] Times Union. "Clinton Smooths Out Gold Star Flap."
3 August 2001.

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I'm sure Hillary regrets this bad publicity as she has the whitewater investigations, the unexplained death in the white house staff. She has learned a lot by now from slick Willie on matters of importance such as, what is - is. P.T. Barnum would consider them his equal.
When I don't want to see people I'm not in my office either.

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Well,...at least the standard and typical family response of: "I don't recall" wasn't used, as to whether or not Hillary was REALLY in her office, or not. That in itself is quite a change.

Neil