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Old 10-07-2022, 09:40 PM
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10-6-2022

SOMETHING TOTALLY TO PONDER!

DO OUR CHILDREN STILL BELONG TO THEIR PARENTS OR HAS THE STATE USURPED ABSOLUTE CONTROL OVER THE LIVES AND FUTURE OF OUR OWN KIDS? JUST A LOGICAL AND PRESSING QUESTION?

ABSOLUTE TRUTH AND GENUINE JUSTICE MUST ONCE AGAIN, BECOME THE AMERICAN WAY!

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Old 10-08-2022, 07:03 AM
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Unhappy Interesting question HC - I had to look and see if there is anything on this subject

Here's what I found:

Topic: William and Mary Law Review (1992)
Volume 33 - too long to post but I have the link: (129 pages on this subject)
Re: https://scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/v...2&context=wmlr

Topic: "Who owns the Child? Meyer & Pierce and the Child as Property

Re: BARBARA BENNETT WOODHOUSE*
I. THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT ...................................... 996
II. LANGUAGE LAWS, COMMON SCHOOLING, AND THE
POLITICS OF PLURALISM .................................................. 1002
A. Language Laws and Common Schooling in
Historical Context .................................................. .. 1003
B. Americanization as a National Progressive
Reform Movement .................................................. ... 1009
C. A Test Case: Metamporphosis from Religious
Liberty to Parental Rights ...................................... 1012

Topics covered:

III. UNIVERSAL COMMON SCHOOLING AND THE POPULIST
LEGACY .................................................. ..............1016
A. The Oregon School Law .......................................1017
B. Populism and the Rhetoric of Class Leveling ..... 1021
C. Walter M. Pierce: Popo-crat Champion of Public
Schools .................................................. .1030
IV. "WHO OWNS THE CHILD?": COMPETING VISIONS OF
CHILD, PARENT, AND STATE ........................................... 1036
A. The American Family: A Brief History in
Tim e .................................................. ..1037
B. A Legacy of Patriarchy: Parental Ownership of
Children .................................................. 1041
V. PATRIARCHY MEETS THE NEW LANGUAGE OF
CHILDREN'S RIGHTS .................................................. ........ 1050
A. The Language of Children's Rights ....................... 1051
B. Ownership Rhetoric, Children's Rights, and the
Regulation of Child Labor ......................................1059
VI. THREE MEN AND THE CHILD IN MEYER v. NEBRASKA 1068
A. William Dameron Guthrie: Conservative
Crusader .................................................. 1070
B. James C. McReynolds: Unlikely Champion of
Toleration and Pluralism ......................................1080
1. The Oregon School Law Dominates Oral
Argument ..............................................1085
2. McReynolds's Opinion .....................................1087
C. Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.: "One of the Best
Liberals" .................................................. 1092
D. Meyer's Aftermath ...........................................1098
VII. THE OREGON LAW GOES TO COURT IN PIERCE v.
SOCIETY OF SISTERS: A SEQUEL AND ANTICLIMAX ...... 1100
VIII. EPILOGUE .................................................. .......1106
IX. CONCLUSION .................................................. .....1112
A. Child as Property ...........................................1113
B. The Private vs. the Public Child ....................

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Personal note(s): HC it amazes me in part: I & the twins (a Boy & Girl)
were once given up for adoption through the Catholic system. Too dreadful
to discuss - what I recall about those days but - and yes it's safe to say that
the government does play a part in the issues you mentioned.
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Note: My younger sister was raised by an Aunt and she later became a Nun.
Her twin brother and I - were shuttled around to many homes - but we
were not allowed to be together - for some ungodly reason.
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My brother passed away not long ago from exposure to AO during Nam.
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His twin Sister became a Catholic Nun.
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I was shuttled to three place's before my real Mother found me.
She had since remarried to the only man - I got to really know.
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If not for him & her - I don't know what I would've become or done?
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As for the care given by those who were to watch over us - it seemed
they were very cold - as they separated - us - so we could no longer be
together as we grew up. The twins found it very difficult and I could no
longer be mixed in with them - some kind of rules by the system.
(All girls in one dorm and all boy's in another dorm - was the rule).
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But as you review the William & Mary Law Review the listing's vary from
religious - to the more political aspects of those who were to provide for
our welfare - and hopefully find a home eventually - for those who were
left behind to be raised by others.
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So yes - to a degree we became part of the government system & rules and
yes - there was nothing - we could do about it. Also had interviews with those
who were thinking about adoption - but they were - also benefiting by proxy
& getting paid - so much per child - they adopted - since our parents breakup.
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It's was a horrible system and I've never forgotten it. I would never put any
kids through that system - there's no love - there's no hope - and it breaks
my heart - to know that so many - are in such environments or institutions!
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