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Old 03-05-2008, 11:05 AM
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Default Jury convicts ex-Navy sailor on terror charges

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NEW HAVEN, Conn. - A former Navy sailor has been convicted of leaking details of ship movements to suspected terrorism supporters.

Jurors were in their second day of deliberations when they convicted Hassan Abu-Jihaad of Phoenix of providing material support to terrorists and disclosing classified national defense information.

Federal prosecutors had urged a jury to convict the 32-year-old of leaking ship movements to suspected terrorists, saying he sympathized with the enemy and admitted disclosing military intelligence.

But his attorney said an investigation that spanned two continents over four years failed to turn up proof that Abu-Jihaad leaked details of ship movements and their vulnerability to attack.

Abu-Jihaad was prosecuted in New Haven because the investigation first focused on a Connecticut-based Internet service provider.
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Old 03-06-2008, 05:54 AM
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It goes to show you that if you let them in and they filter into the system eventually they will make their way into areas where they can do some damage. He should get 20 years with hard labor then deported.
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Boats,

I disagree. He should get 20 years hard labor...then executed.
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We call it HIGH TREASON (criminal disloyalty to one's country)

I thought Traitor's are normally executed not imprisoned for life etc

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It goes to show you that if you let them in and they filter into the system eventually they will make their way into areas where they can do some damage. He should get 20 years with hard labor then deported.
This dirt bag's name alone should have been enough to send up a red flag! (Hassan Abu-Jihaad)

20 CHL, revoke was ever type discharge he may have gotten from the Navy, Keel Haul, flogged, hung from the mast then shot!
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Hassan Abu-Jihad -How a Muslim convert and US Navy sailor became a terror suspect
February 26, 2008


The 'Unremarkable' Life Of A Sailor Turned Terror Suspect
February 24, 2008

Dec. 24, 1975: Hassan Abu-jihaad, then named Paul R. Hall, is born.

1995: Hall converts to Islam, legally changing his name to Abu-jihaad, which means "father of jihad."

December 1997: Abu-jihaad enlists in the Navy.

Jan. 6, 1998: Abu-jihaad gains "secret" security clearance.

Late 2000: Abu-jihaad allegedly begins an e-mail correspondence with those at a collection of websites in London run by Azzam Publications. Some e-mail allegedly originates aboard his ship, the USS Benfold, which becomes part of the Constellation Battle Group.

March 2001: Classified Navy ship movements, eventually dubbed the battle group document, allegedly are transmitted by Abu-jihaad to Azzam.

Spring 2001: The Constellation Battle Group leaves San Diego for the Persian Gulf. The group is scheduled to pass through the Strait of Hormuz, leading from the Indian Ocean into the Persian Gulf, on or about April 29.

July 2001: Abu-jihaad allegedly e-mails Azzam regarding the military reaction to the October 2000 terror attack on the USS Cole. The e-mail says the attack has caused "psychological anxiety" to "set in on America's forces everywhere."

Jan 25, 2002: Abu-jihaad is discharged from the Navy and settles in Phoenix.

2003: Abu-jihaad befriends Derrick Shareef at the Islamic Community Center in Phoenix. Shareef lives in Abu-jihaad's Phoenix home for about seven months. The FBI says they began discussing "the terms and justification for jihad."

December 2003: British officials find the battle group document while searching a London house belonging to the parents of Babar Ahmad, one of two men who run Azzam.

Oct. 6, 2004: A federal grand jury in Bridgeport indicts Ahmad and Syed Talha Ahsan, both British citizens, along with Azzam Publications, on charges of providing support to terrorists.

Late 2004: Shareef moves to the Chicago area but remains in telephone contact with Abu-jihaad. Among other things, they allegedly discuss ways to maximize casualties during an attack on a military base near San Diego.

September 2006: Shareef befriends Muslim convert William Chrisman in suburban Chicago. Unbeknownst to Shareef, Chrisman is an FBI informant. Shareef introduces Chrisman to Abu-jihaad. Authorities say they then link Abu-jihaad, through recorded conversations, to the battle group document and plans to mount terror attacks.

Nov. 22, 2006: The FBI records Abu-jihaad and an "associate" discussing a video depicting an Iraqi insurgent known as the "Juba sniper" killing U.S. military personnel.

Dec. 6, 2006: Shareef is arrested and charged with conspiring to attack Christmas shoppers with hand grenades at a suburban Chicago shopping mall.

March 7, 2007: Abu-jihaad is arrested in Phoenix and charged with supporting terrorism with an intent to kill U.S. citizens and transmitting classified information to unauthorized people.

Feb. 25, 2008: Abu-jihaad's trial in U.S. District Court scheduled to begin.

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What's amazing about this is that he enlisted in the Navy "after" he converted to Islam and he was still accepted. Of course this was previous to 9/11 but, like sparrowhawk said, a big red flag should've gone up. But then that wouldn't have been PC, would it? F**k PC! Like a wise man once said, "Not all Muslims are terrorists, but so far all terrorists have been Muslims!"
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I saw the special on gang-bangers who are currently in or being let out of the service. They get their military training on how to use a weapon and how to inflitrate into homes and take these skills back to their streets and neighborhoods and train more of their members.

It was amazing to see how many were gang bangers who were in trouble with the law only to sign up in the military to keep from going to jail. Then and even now they show gang signs showing up in Iraq and Afganistan. Their loyality is to their gangs not to the US service they are in. They even sign up more gang member while they are off duty.

I must be naive because I just didn't think of this situation going on. In a war zone and still flashing gang signs and recruitment. Did you guys ever run into any gang members who were trying recruit you or others - I never did.
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In '71 we got a surprising influx of personnel at Norton AFB. Turns out they were all released from the Illinois Juvenile Detention System when they agreed to enlist in any branch of the service. For the most part they were OK and did their jobs. A few, however, presented problems, which were quickly quashed with blanket parties and GI showers. They finally figured out, to paraphrase Dorothy, "We're not in Illinois anymore, Toto!"
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